Anonymous
Post 02/02/2012 10:43     Subject: Re:What are they doing in your Kindergartener's class?

Anonymous wrote:The academic pendulum has swung all the way over now, hasn't it. You do know that there is a pattern and that eventually the pendulum will swing back and academics in K will take a back seat to social and emotional and holistic development. That's just the way it goes.

Personally, the rigorous academics in the 'mini-first grade' that kindergarten has become is the primary reason that I chose to send my child to private school. I want him learning skills and content that are appropriate for a 5 year old in kindergarten, not a 6 year old in first grade, thank you very much. I do not think it matters one iota whether my child learns to read sentences much less chapter books in kindergarten or first grade. I believe that you can only push the academic skills down so far before you are making unacceptable trade offs and/or are pushing too many children past the limits of appropriate expectations for their age and developmental level. And it has nothing to do with whether or not they are having fun in this case. B/c I'm sure that the teachers are killing themselves trying to ensure that those little guys are having fun, regardless of how inappropriate what they are asking them to do is.

Can we please just have a normal kindergarten with story time, picture journals, songs, fingerplays, a kitchen/house area, blocks, puzzles, easels and crafts, cooking, guinea pigs and raising chicks, sink and float and magnet experiments, and some cute plays like a Kindergarten Circus?



My kid is one of the oldest in the grade and he did all this in preschool. He was ready and excited for more structure and more chance to learn. Not all kindergartners are the same or have the same learning needs as your kid. Sorry!
Anonymous
Post 02/01/2012 23:46     Subject: Re:What are they doing in your Kindergartener's class?

The academic pendulum has swung all the way over now, hasn't it. You do know that there is a pattern and that eventually the pendulum will swing back and academics in K will take a back seat to social and emotional and holistic development. That's just the way it goes.

Personally, the rigorous academics in the 'mini-first grade' that kindergarten has become is the primary reason that I chose to send my child to private school. I want him learning skills and content that are appropriate for a 5 year old in kindergarten, not a 6 year old in first grade, thank you very much. I do not think it matters one iota whether my child learns to read sentences much less chapter books in kindergarten or first grade. I believe that you can only push the academic skills down so far before you are making unacceptable trade offs and/or are pushing too many children past the limits of appropriate expectations for their age and developmental level. And it has nothing to do with whether or not they are having fun in this case. B/c I'm sure that the teachers are killing themselves trying to ensure that those little guys are having fun, regardless of how inappropriate what they are asking them to do is.

Can we please just have a normal kindergarten with story time, picture journals, songs, fingerplays, a kitchen/house area, blocks, puzzles, easels and crafts, cooking, guinea pigs and raising chicks, sink and float and magnet experiments, and some cute plays like a Kindergarten Circus?

Anonymous
Post 02/01/2012 15:44     Subject: What are they doing in your Kindergartener's class?

Anonymous wrote:I think people need to accept that a class goes at the rate of the average student -- not at the rate of the top 10% or the bottom 10%. Just as it would not be fair to go at the rate of the bottom 10%, leaving 90% bored, it would not be fair to go at the rate of the top 10%, leaving 90% struggling.

Also, I don't think you should be too concerned that your child is a head of peers in K because he had the advantage of pre-K education. Things even out by third grade.


That has not been my experience with either of my kids.
Anonymous
Post 02/01/2012 12:44     Subject: What are they doing in your Kindergartener's class?

Anonymous wrote:I think people need to accept that a class goes at the rate of the average student -- not at the rate of the top 10% or the bottom 10%. Just as it would not be fair to go at the rate of the bottom 10%, leaving 90% bored, it would not be fair to go at the rate of the top 10%, leaving 90% struggling.

Also, I don't think you should be too concerned that your child is a head of peers in K because he had the advantage of pre-K education. Things even out by third grade.

If that's the case, then MCPS should at least stop pretending there is differentiation in the classrooms.
Anonymous
Post 02/01/2012 09:03     Subject: What are they doing in your Kindergartener's class?

I think people need to accept that a class goes at the rate of the average student -- not at the rate of the top 10% or the bottom 10%. Just as it would not be fair to go at the rate of the bottom 10%, leaving 90% bored, it would not be fair to go at the rate of the top 10%, leaving 90% struggling.

Also, I don't think you should be too concerned that your child is a head of peers in K because he had the advantage of pre-K education. Things even out by third grade.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2012 23:09     Subject: What are they doing in your Kindergartener's class?

This thread is proof positive that parents need to take ownership of our children's education. If we leave it up to Mr. Starr and MCPS our kids will fall a few steps behind their full potential.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2012 19:33     Subject: What are they doing in your Kindergartener's class?

Yep, reading chapter books alone. Rainbow Magic Fairy book series, American Girl doll books, (yes, I have a princess), Airy Fairy, Heidi.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2012 09:40     Subject: Re:What are they doing in your Kindergartener's class?

Anonymous wrote:There are many posts that indicate that their child reads chapter books in K. Just curious, do you mean reads chapter books on their own for fun (like the Magic Treehouse serious or similar level) or can they read with assistance?

I have seen a wide range in my child's class but no chapter book readers.


Yes my kids both read chapter books in K-for example, Beverly Cleary was a big favorite at that age. They were not unusual, there were certainly other kids reading at that level.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2012 23:28     Subject: What are they doing in your Kindergartener's class?

Read Magic Tree House books on his own for fun.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2012 23:21     Subject: Re:What are they doing in your Kindergartener's class?

There are many posts that indicate that their child reads chapter books in K. Just curious, do you mean reads chapter books on their own for fun (like the Magic Treehouse serious or similar level) or can they read with assistance?

I have seen a wide range in my child's class but no chapter book readers.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2012 23:05     Subject: What are they doing in your Kindergartener's class?

Anonymous wrote:21:58 - do you feel like in 1st it was less frustrating once there was more of an equal level and your DC was learning more?


Sorry, just saw this. My child actually didn't get too frustrated in K, just lazy and overly social. First grade is more challenging since now they are actually teaching him writing which is what he *should* have been learning last year. His writing holds him back in reading levels and there are a good number of kids at the same level now. Math is still too easy. We don't want to be one of THOSE parents so we don't push him. I will say he would definitely enjoy more challenging math if it was available to him.
Anonymous
Post 01/29/2012 22:13     Subject: Re:What are they doing in your Kindergartener's class?

Seriously, when I was in Kindergarten, all I remember is listening to stories and doing crafts. Ease up on the academics folks! They'll get there eventually, and it has no bearing on whether tehy're Ivy League material.


Has this D.C. mother even ever heard of Morse's law and the half-life of knowledge? She foolishly expects kids from a century ago to do precisely what kids in the 22nd century will be doing at the age of 3,4, and 5? Do you realize the advent of the Internet only 20 years ago has changed what kids do in Kindergarten today? As much as Starbucks has changed what DC urban mothers do today. It's academic.
Anonymous
Post 01/29/2012 22:03     Subject: Re:What are they doing in your Kindergartener's class?

Seriously, when I was in Kindergarten, all I remember is listening to stories and doing crafts. Ease up on the academics folks! They'll get there eventually, and it has no bearing on whether tehy're Ivy League material.


Why should you kid do what you did in K 50 years ago? for that matter why should the children of kids in K today do what their parents did in K 50 years from now? How boring if my child was doing what a child did in K a 100 years ago?

Change is difficult for many to accept...but they will. They have no choice.
Anonymous
Post 01/29/2012 21:00     Subject: Re:What are they doing in your Kindergartener's class?

PP here - and this was a "Green zone school" thank you very much!
Anonymous
Post 01/29/2012 20:59     Subject: What are they doing in your Kindergartener's class?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Um, where did I say I was horrified? I think it's totally normal for a kid in K to be learning basic words. My point was that this can't be the first year they've had a range of experiences and I'm surprised they aren't more adept at dealing with it.


From my experience this is how they deal with it. They are waiting for the other kids to catch up and then in first grade she will start learning again. Sad, but that's how it was for us.


"Waiting" for other kids to catch up is not acceptable. The first 6 years are some of the most critical years with respect to brain development and learning. That's not to say others aren't as important, but you get the most bang for your buck (ie. your effort) during this time frame. Putting your child into a holding pattern because a small sub-set of the parents of children in your kid's class didn't recognize this is simply not acceptable. Like the other poster said, you guys are getting soft.


Sadly, holding is what is they do. My DS went to private K then MCPS elementary. He was excruciatingly bored during 1st grade. I used to pull out 2nd grade worksheets that I would find in the recycle bin while volunteering to do photocopying at the school. I had him do those worksheets in order to challenge him more. When I asked the teacher about it she said "I can't teach him 2nd grade work this year! What would I teach him next year!" I mean WTF! No differentiation in teaching at all. When I talked to the principal about it she just agreed with the teacher and said he would have to wait until next year do more challenging math.