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Anonymous wrote:Wow, OP you are pretty nasty.

Those parents can mourn whichever way they want and considering their strong religious views, any moron can figure out that they consider this the death of their baby and not a simple miscarriage.

Like another poster said, NOBODY would have noticed the obit "Negative Nancy" had not posted it.

You have clearly never had a miscarriage. There is no such thing as a simple miscarriage. Anybody who has felt the thrill of getting two lines on a pregnancy test and started imagining what the future would be like feels the loss of a that possibility, whether or not they would use the words "death of their baby."

The Duggars can do what they like for their own reasons, but it is not unreasonable for the rest of us to notice that their actions go against societal norms.

Actually, I've had 3.

You need to critically read. Posters before me were referring to this as a simply miscarriage, but with much less sensitivity, referring to it as a 3inch fetus (or embryo).

Their actions might go against YOUR societal norms, but if you have ever watched the show then you would already know that the Duggars do everything outside of society's norms. Your lights are on, anyone home? In case you were not aware, they are Christian Fundamentalists. I'm not sure why people are so shocked that the Duggars are treating this pregnancy loss just the same as the death of a baby. Have any of you EVER taken an anthropology class or do you just think that we live in an homogenous culture?

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, OP you are pretty nasty.

Those parents can mourn whichever way they want and considering their strong religious views, any moron can figure out that they consider this the death of their baby and not a simple miscarriage.

Like another poster said, NOBODY would have noticed the obit "Negative Nancy" had not posted it.

You have clearly never had a miscarriage. There is no such thing as a simple miscarriage. Anybody who has felt the thrill of getting two lines on a pregnancy test and started imagining what the future would be like feels the loss of a that possibility, whether or not they would use the words "death of their baby."

The Duggars can do what they like for their own reasons, but it is not unreasonable for the rest of us to notice that their actions go against societal norms.

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Anonymous wrote:If you think this is outrageous, just wait until they inevitably air the memorial service on a very special episode of their TLC show. I do not for one second put that past them.

Can the PP who mentioned Josie's developmental delays elaborate? How do you know about them? From what I've seen the Duggars insist she is fine- what leads you think she has developmental delays? (Not doubting you, she was a VERY young preemie, just wondering how you know.)

I don't know anything more than anyone else, but from observing Josie on the 19K and Counting show, it seems pretty clear that she is not where she should be (notwithstanding the Duggars' insistence that she is just fine). She just turned two years old. On the most recent episodes (filmed in July/August), Josie's talking is literally just babble, not even attempting to string words together like 'want milk' or something simple. She doesn't seem to be properly taking in her environment; when she came back from Israel I know she was ill but there was no sense that she even recognized Dad or any of the other caregivers. She blows kisses and hits her face repeatedly (self-stimulation?).

She might have had some kind of brain damage with her premature birth, or else she is very far behind on her cognitive development (even allowing for adjusted age given her prematurity). I'm sure she'd benefit from therapy, but I guess either the Duggars don't believe in it or else they don't want us to know about it. They make it seem as if they can care for Josie and that she has no special needs other than being on oxygen (even the fact that this is ongoing leads me to believe Josie might have a permanent problem with her lungs). The longer the show goes on, however, the Duggars will eventually have to address Josie's issues. Then again, they don't seem to notice that Jordyn can barely talk, and that Jennifer also appears to be speech delayed.

I know that we get a heavily edited version of their lives, but really, in the chaos of that household I don't see how some of these kids are getting proper attention for development-based issues.

Anonymous wrote:If you think this is outrageous, just wait until they inevitably air the memorial service on a very special episode of their TLC show. I do not for one second put that past them.

Can the PP who mentioned Josie's developmental delays elaborate? How do you know about them? From what I've seen the Duggars insist she is fine- what leads you think she has developmental delays? (Not doubting you, she was a VERY young preemie, just wondering how you know.)

Anonymous wrote:What a horrible thing to say! I work with SN children and I can't imagine anyone who has a heart saying that a disabled child is "trouble". This is sickening to me!

I just hope all this horrible people are not part of my circle.

Are any of you the co-worker who called the autistic kid dumb on his face during a family friendly office party last week? - from the SN forum if you're familiar with it.

Anonymous wrote:Am I the only person who finds it odd/bordering on inappropriate when non-Jewish people use Hebrew words for things?

Anonymous wrote:Wow, OP you are pretty nasty.

Those parents can mourn whichever way they want and considering their strong religious views, any moron can figure out that they consider this the death of their baby and not a simple miscarriage.

Like another poster said, NOBODY would have noticed the obit "Negative Nancy" had not posted it.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here and I disagree that this thread is mean-spirited. I follow the Duggars, watch their show, have an odd (to me) fascination with them. I felt so sad for them when Michelle had this miscarriage.

I am perfectly comfortable posting this PUBLIC news, however. 100% comfortable. When you turn your "private" grief into a publicity moment with People magazine (updating every several hours with news on this turn of events), you open yourself up for criticism.

To ANNOUNCE that you are having a celebration of life/funeral for a 3-inch fetus that never knew sentience, along with an obituary is absurd. I find JB&M's actions insulting to life, not supportive of it. If they really want to support life, they could start with paying some attention to and getting some services for their developmentally delayed toddler.

This latest publicity is all about the TLC gravy train, fame whoring, and right to life propaganda. This is going to be all over the right to life websites in no time.

I have several friends and a family member who have grieved miscarriages too, but they did so privately. JB&M need to study that word in a home school lesson at their dining room table. Then they should have a real life lesson where they apply the meaning of the word, which is seemingly unfamiliar to them.

An obituary is an ANNOUNCEMENT. That's what people do, they put it in the paper. And the fact that you don't get having a funeral for a miscarriage is not their problem, it's yours.

You complain about the fact that this is all going on in public, but then YOU are the reason for the publicity. You and all of the viewers who watch their show with an odd fascination. [b]Now there is nothing they do which will not be public.[/b]

Anonymous wrote:I cannot believe there are people (I assumed most ppl who read this board are educated) who are DEFENDING this crap. What planet are you on? That "obituary" is sick. They have ceased to be parents. They are the Kardashian family with 80s hairdos and tater tot casseroles. They are nothing but whores who are cashing in on their kids and Michelle's uterus. Here's an idea:pay attention to the children you do have. Ick.