Anonymous
Post 10/16/2011 17:40     Subject: Re:liking a song then realized "pumped up kicks" is really disturbing
I love it. I didnt take it literally. I interpreted as a guy that hates douchebags. I didn't interpret as him really going after them with a gun.

Just an empty threat.

The song is great..melody, music, etc. My preschooler and K child love it.
Anonymous
Post 10/16/2011 17:14     Subject: liking a song then realized "pumped up kicks" is really disturbing
Anonymous wrote:It is a song. Since the dawn of music, songs have dealt with controversial topics. If you read comments by the artists, they talk about how the song was meant to get people thinking about the topic in general, not Columbine specifically and was never intended to glorify.

Have any of you listened to country music lately? That has some of the most violent and abusive lyrics I've ever heard.


Please name some violent country songs.
Anonymous
Post 10/16/2011 17:10     Subject: liking a song then realized "pumped up kicks" is really disturbing
Anonymous wrote:NP here. This is part of what makes good music, people. It is controversial. We can pretend Columbine didn't happen - but really, a song about it doesn't mean it "happened more" or "happened less".

"Mondays", PPs reference is very similar but didn't have everyone in an uproar because media was very different then (obviously). We had real time coverage of teens running to safety in CO.

The Smiths, different PPs reference paralells in that there is cheery music set to "Girlfriend in a Coma". Almost makes you wonder if the "right" lyrics are right.

Either way, like it or not, it is a catchy piece of music. If you don't like it, change the station. Hell, we probably won't even have mainstream radio or network t.v. for that matter, in a few years. Then you will have bigger matters to address. Right? Right?



Controversy does not make good music. Sorry.
Anonymous
Post 10/16/2011 15:50     Subject: liking a song then realized "pumped up kicks" is really disturbing
Anonymous wrote:First of all, I kind of doubt Foster the People are launding the act they're singing about, but even if they were, what disturbs you more? The song or the event the song is about? Is it a bad song because it makes you think about something you don't want to think about? Isn't that what art is about-to make you think? If it ellicits a discussion between you and your children, is that bad, wrong, uncomfortable or possibly necessary? Is it possible that if Dylan Klybold and Eric Harris's parents had talked to their kids more about uncomfortable topics, Columbine might never have occurred?
meant 'lauding' in the first line.
Anonymous
Post 10/16/2011 15:48     Subject: liking a song then realized "pumped up kicks" is really disturbing
First of all, I kind of doubt Foster the People are launding the act they're singing about, but even if they were, what disturbs you more? The song or the event the song is about? Is it a bad song because it makes you think about something you don't want to think about? Isn't that what art is about-to make you think? If it ellicits a discussion between you and your children, is that bad, wrong, uncomfortable or possibly necessary? Is it possible that if Dylan Klybold and Eric Harris's parents had talked to their kids more about uncomfortable topics, Columbine might never have occurred?
Anonymous
Post 10/16/2011 15:28     Subject: liking a song then realized "pumped up kicks" is really disturbing
To those bothered by this song, never listen to or watch the video for Pearl Jam's "Jeremy".
Anonymous
Post 10/16/2011 15:01     Subject: Re:liking a song then realized "pumped up kicks" is really disturbing
I'm curious about those of you who love(d) the song but didn't realize what it was about. I understand that some lyrics within the verse may be hard to decipher after listening to it once or twice but it's fairly easy to ferret out the other words. Additionally, the words mean just what they say -- that some kid who is either abused or neglected by his dad is going to get his father's gun and start shooting up the popular kids (the ones with the pumped up kicks). What did you all THINK that the singer was talking about????
Anonymous
Post 10/16/2011 14:57     Subject: liking a song then realized "pumped up kicks" is really disturbing
It is a song. Since the dawn of music, songs have dealt with controversial topics. If you read comments by the artists, they talk about how the song was meant to get people thinking about the topic in general, not Columbine specifically and was never intended to glorify.

Have any of you listened to country music lately? That has some of the most violent and abusive lyrics I've ever heard.
Anonymous
Post 10/16/2011 14:23     Subject: liking a song then realized "pumped up kicks" is really disturbing
Anonymous wrote:not as bad as them singing along to rihannas Rude Boy


Or Chains & Whips!
Anonymous
Post 10/16/2011 14:05     Subject: liking a song then realized "pumped up kicks" is really disturbing
meh.

I used to be a huge Suicidal Tendencies and Danzig fan. Pumped up Kicks does not even make me blink.
Anonymous
Post 10/16/2011 13:46     Subject: Re:liking a song then realized "pumped up kicks" is really disturbing
Anonymous wrote:You all sound so blase about this. But when this actually happens at your kids' school, and children are killed, and everyone is saying "how could this happen" - well, our cultural standards, our laxity about what we consider acceptable, are all part of it. It is all part of the equation, and we are all responsible for this. It is NOT just a song - don't be so stupid.

In college, sure, I can along to "bitches in my living room, getting it on" and was sort of uncomfortable, but "you better outrun my gun" - sorry. That is completely insane.



"You better outrun my gun..." Yes. That is COMPLETELY INSANE. Hence the point. Which you seemed to have missed.

Or should all music be about rainbows and unicorns? Would that satisfy your "cultural standards"?
Anonymous
Post 10/16/2011 13:44     Subject: liking a song then realized "pumped up kicks" is really disturbing
I wouldn't go over the whole take cover discussion since it would make my anxious son a wreck. But you could discuss how sometimes people get so frustrated they handle it incorrectly (obviously an understatement) or you could discuss how bullying can absolutely ruin people's entire school career, and how wrong it is to bully people.
Anonymous
Post 10/16/2011 13:39     Subject: liking a song then realized "pumped up kicks" is really disturbing
PP...yes, it did disturb me. I still can't fathom how I am to prepare my 10-yr-old to take cover in the event of a mass school shooting? Really! No I lied and said it happened in some guncrazy state and she'd never need to worry about an event like that. I hated duscussing it.....I hate that it happened...
Anonymous
Post 10/16/2011 13:30     Subject: liking a song then realized "pumped up kicks" is really disturbing
Anonymous wrote:I think the 1st Amendment is one of the very best things about the United States, I honestly do. As a reporter, then a lawyer, and a plain old citizen. I donate money to groups like the Reporters Cmte. for Freedom of the Press.

I would fight in court to protect Foster The People's right to keep writing songs about killing classmates and their father.

-BUT-

the PPs who are saying Oh grow up, it's Only Music!!! It's harmless!!! are being disingenuous WRT to kids. In fact, you probably ARE kids yourselves, now that I think about it. Either way, you're naive, young, or just flat out stupid to imagine that media messages have no impact on young brains, in the aggregate.[/quote]

I have to agree.

When UR takes the place of you are in essays, it's hard to "unteach" some bad habits.
Anonymous
Post 10/16/2011 13:27     Subject: liking a song then realized "pumped up kicks" is really disturbing
I have to agree with the heavy metal pp, how worried was the media when gangsta rap broke out with the white suburban kids? There wasn't rampant violence of rich kids enlisting with the bloods and the crips