Anonymous
Post 04/29/2013 17:55     Subject: GT kids vs Non GT kids in Center Schools
That's good news, pp!
Anonymous
Post 04/29/2013 17:46     Subject: GT kids vs Non GT kids in Center Schools
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:I think the schools that don't mix the AAP and Gen Ed do a huge disservice to school unity and to both populations. There is no reason why they can't be in specials, lunch, recess, etc. The kids should see themselves as one school not 2 programs.


Which are these schools you mention that don't mix AAP and general ed in specials, lunch, and recess? I am not aware that any FCPS elementary school isolates its AAP students for those classes -- or for band or orchestra, which also are specials.


According to my child at Haycock, the only thing they are mixed for is band, strings or chorus. He does not know any of the Gen Ed kids (came to school in 3rd grade for the center). Apparently, they are together for 5 minutes of recess. Maybe it's not true, but that's what my sons says.


This is exactly why the AAP program at the school needs to have more balance with the gen ed. The AAP is huge, and was starting to solely define the school. The school board took the right action to lower the AAP population.


Perhaps that is true, but certainly the administration could mix the kids in PE, art and the activities like plays, etc. Also, the "balance" argument doesn't hold that much water considering 40% of AAP is from Haycock anyway. Those kids should already know the Gen Ed kids and presumably would continue to be friends with them if they had an opportunity to see them rather than being hothoused. If they were mixed throughout the day, it wouldn't be as obvious that they are "different programs" as my DC says. There are ways to have both groups of kids i one school without making it such a have/have not situation.


I'm sorry to hear that's the case at Haycock but it's not the case at every center school and I hope the OP doesn't get that impression. My child is in a center school and mixes with general ed kids in PE, at recess, and in band and orchestra! And they have a mandatory school musical in 6th grade that ALL 6th graders do totally together --months of rehearsals, set-building, costume etc. done together with no difference between them. I'm sorry to hear that other center schools have this "us and them" but it's just not true everywherel.
Anonymous
Post 04/29/2013 15:33     Subject: GT kids vs Non GT kids in Center Schools
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think the schools that don't mix the AAP and Gen Ed do a huge disservice to school unity and to both populations. There is no reason why they can't be in specials, lunch, recess, etc. The kids should see themselves as one school not 2 programs.


Which are these schools you mention that don't mix AAP and general ed in specials, lunch, and recess? I am not aware that any FCPS elementary school isolates its AAP students for those classes -- or for band or orchestra, which also are specials.

well if they don't...they should. I've heard those AAP kids pick their noses and spread viruses.
Anonymous
Post 04/29/2013 14:48     Subject: GT kids vs Non GT kids in Center Schools
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Anonymous wrote:Oh boy... these Asian kids..


from what Dc tells me, although they are the vast majority in AAP, they are not the bullies.
That distinction falls to the white "mean girls."


Yes, it's a good idea to fight racism with racism.

Because all our actions are completely determined by whatever race we happen to be, so it make sense to judge people ahead of time by their race.
Soooo convenient and easy to not have to get to know people as individuals.



How is that Racism? If there is a band of "mean white girls" bullying the poster's child, then who are you to say otherwise? PC crap.
Anonymous
Post 04/29/2013 14:10     Subject: Re:GT kids vs Non GT kids in Center Schools
Anonymous wrote:I have a 10 year old in a AAP center school who is in gen. ed. She has a number of friends in the AAP center. There has never been a teasing or bullying problem that I'm aware of. I think the parents tend to get themselves pretty wound up about their kids being in or out and sometimes those feelings can influence the kids - but I've never know there to be any spiteful or mean-spirited commentary among the kids - although I'm sure it's not unheard of.
[list]are you kidding me it happens all the time. Sometimes before the kids are even admitted.
Anonymous
Post 04/29/2013 14:03     Subject: GT kids vs Non GT kids in Center Schools
The chance is that those of the AAP nerd bullies are probably the borderline kids whose parents pushed them hard. So that the kids got that kind of idea through the process.

My kids got in no sweat and they act like it's nothing and be cool about it.

Anonymous
Post 04/29/2013 14:02     Subject: GT kids vs Non GT kids in Center Schools
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Oh boy... these Asian kids..


from what Dc tells me, although they are the vast majority in AAP, they are not the bullies.
That distinction falls to the white "mean girls."


Yes, it's a good idea to fight racism with racism.

Because all our actions are completely determined by whatever race we happen to be, so it make sense to judge people ahead of time by their race.
Soooo convenient and easy to not have to get to know people as individuals.

Anonymous
Post 04/29/2013 13:46     Subject: GT kids vs Non GT kids in Center Schools
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Anonymous wrote:Revenge of the nerds! I'm liking it!.


you're assuming you have to be a nerd to get into AAP. Maybe 15 years ago. Today it is much different. You just need to be a slightly above average kid with pushy parents.


+1 That is the irony. Some of the AAP nerd bullies are not any smarter than the gen ed students they are teasing. Yet another reason why they shouldn't track students at such a young age.
Anonymous
Post 04/29/2013 13:14     Subject: GT kids vs Non GT kids in Center Schools
Wow, I was an AAP kid (or whatever it was called back then) and WE were the ones teased by the Gen Ed kids. Times sure have changed.
Anonymous
Post 04/29/2013 13:07     Subject: GT kids vs Non GT kids in Center Schools
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Revenge of the nerds! I'm liking it!.


you're assuming you have to be a nerd to get into AAP. Maybe 15 years ago. Today it is much different. You just need to be a slightly above average kid with pushy parents.


+1
Anonymous
Post 04/29/2013 12:58     Subject: GT kids vs Non GT kids in Center Schools
Anonymous wrote:Revenge of the nerds! I'm liking it!.


you're assuming you have to be a nerd to get into AAP. Maybe 15 years ago. Today it is much different. You just need to be a slightly above average kid with pushy parents.
Anonymous
Post 04/29/2013 12:56     Subject: GT kids vs Non GT kids in Center Schools
Revenge of the nerds! I'm liking it!.
Anonymous
Post 04/29/2013 12:36     Subject: GT kids vs Non GT kids in Center Schools
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Oh boy... these Asian kids..


from what Dc tells me, although they are the vast majority in AAP, they are not the bullies.
That distinction falls to the white "mean girls."


Seriously, WHY is everything about race? It is exhausting. I live in a neighborhood with Asians, whites and blacks, and we all get along fine. The kids play with each other very well and the parent treat all the kids the same regardless of race. If the girls are mean, it's because they are mean, not because they are white.
Anonymous
Post 04/29/2013 11:37     Subject: GT kids vs Non GT kids in Center Schools
Anonymous wrote:Oh boy... these Asian kids..


from what Dc tells me, although they are the vast majority in AAP, they are not the bullies.
That distinction falls to the white "mean girls."
Anonymous
Post 04/29/2013 11:37     Subject: GT kids vs Non GT kids in Center Schools
Anonymous wrote:I thought the AAP kids were abused because their parents wouldn't let them play sports and made them into nerds. Now they are bullies and the poor athletes are picked on...... Sheesh...


Yeah, really funny. It's awesome when your otherwise "smart" child is made to feel stupid at school. The schools shouldn't let anyone bully. Promoting a climate where the "smartest" kids are put on a pedestal and constantly praised is "ok" since it is just correcting the years of abuse former generations of nerds had to endure. Sometimes living in this area is so tiresome