Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I thought this seemed suspicious, but I didn't factor in the fact that she could have been a heavy social drinker (or alcoholic). I guess being a naive suburbanite, I just assumed that a mother with 3 very young children probably just wouldn't drink much at all, let alone enough to have alcohol poisoning.
Yup, we super sophisticated city moms are rarely sober. It's a fact.![]()
Yes, roll your eyes and misinterpret me. Let me spell it out - I do not roll in these high profile, demanding job circles. My friends, most with kids, drink very minimally, and we do not celebrate things such as gigantic corporate mergers and whatnot. So naturally, I put that onto Mrs Turton, without realizing that there are moms out there who DO drink, who DO live the work hard/play hard scenario. Thus, I did at first find the whole 'no foul play' thing suspicious, and the alcohol poisoning even moreso, because what mom of little kids would do that? But clearly, plenty of folks here have no problems believing it, and have put up various plausible scenarios for why she couldn't get out of her car when it caught on fire. I feel very sad for her kids.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I thought this seemed suspicious, but I didn't factor in the fact that she could have been a heavy social drinker (or alcoholic). I guess being a naive suburbanite, I just assumed that a mother with 3 very young children probably just wouldn't drink much at all, let alone enough to have alcohol poisoning.
Yup, we super sophisticated city moms are rarely sober. It's a fact.![]()
Anonymous wrote:I thought this seemed suspicious, but I didn't factor in the fact that she could have been a heavy social drinker (or alcoholic). I guess being a naive suburbanite, I just assumed that a mother with 3 very young children probably just wouldn't drink much at all, let alone enough to have alcohol poisoning.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote: "Parents like this...." is such a broad statement. I worked with Ashley on the Hill and lobby in the same sector she did. I am not sure where you get your information but there aren't a ton of women who fall into this category. We all tend to know each other or at least see each other at these "social events" ie fundraisers on a regular basis. I can tell you that as a whole we don't have multiple childcare providers, we tend to make lunches before sending our children off to public school and actually do rush home to make dinner. Ashely was just a regular mother like the rest of us. Her kids do have a good support system, you know her husband wasn't killed in the crash also! I never got the vibe from her that she was a functioning alcoholic but maybe I missed it. It is just incredibly sad and I don't think we will ever have answers.
Actually, I remember her advertising for a nanny for early mornings, evenings and weekend hours for 3 kids who were in full time daycare. Her husband works in the WH and probably works a similar, if not more demanding, schedule. I think that a lot of evenings out and social drinking were part of her job/lifestyle. With tragic consequences that night. Maybe it was a regular thing, maybe a celebration, maybe worry about her brother or a combo.
Anonymous wrote:I thought this seemed suspicious, but I didn't factor in the fact that she could have been a heavy social drinker (or alcoholic). I guess being a naive suburbanite, I just assumed that a mother with 3 very young children probably just wouldn't drink much at all, let alone enough to have alcohol poisoning.
Anonymous wrote:I think it was a motorcycle accident that requires him to have constant care.
Anonymous wrote: "Parents like this...." is such a broad statement. I worked with Ashley on the Hill and lobby in the same sector she did. I am not sure where you get your information but there aren't a ton of women who fall into this category. We all tend to know each other or at least see each other at these "social events" ie fundraisers on a regular basis. I can tell you that as a whole we don't have multiple childcare providers, we tend to make lunches before sending our children off to public school and actually do rush home to make dinner. Ashely was just a regular mother like the rest of us. Her kids do have a good support system, you know her husband wasn't killed in the crash also! I never got the vibe from her that she was a functioning alcoholic but maybe I missed it. It is just incredibly sad and I don't think we will ever have answers.
Anonymous wrote:There were 2 reports - one that she was going in to the office early, one that she was headed to the airport.
Too bad it wasn't in a cab.
I would imagine that any reports of her drinking the night before would be supressed out of respect for the family and fear of liability.
Her brother was just in a tragic accident as well.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I saw a picture of the SUV at a weird angle and a gold sedan, Toyota maybe, parked in the driveway, wonder if she was trying to manuver around it.
That may have been a factor.
http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local-beat/Lobbyist-Died-of-Burns-Inhalation-of-Combustible-Products-in-SUV-Fire-115968329.html
The sedan was parked very poorly and was really blocking the SUV in. Wonder if her husband was out the night before too. Even if she hadn't been so drunk that she crashed the car into the garage and was unable to get herself out of the burning car, clearly she was incapable of driving on the street as well.
I could be recalling this wrong, but sometimes can't your tolerance fail? I had an alcoholic relative who drank his "typical" amount and almost died one night when usually he was not all that visibly affected by the same number of drinks.
Did not know her personally but know people who move in those circles - people with those kind of careers tend to work hard and play very hard too and that often involves drinking. People who are also drinking heavily (possibly shots with that kind of BAC?) are not the best judges of how sober others are. Socializing overlaps with work contacts and can be a big part of the job. Parents like this are not typically up at the crack of dawn to pack lunches and rushing home to make dinner, their childcare arrangements often includes mornings, evenings and weekends. Families with careers like this often have daycare plus an au pair or nanny or multiple nannies. Hopefully the kids have a good support system and loving caregivers. Just incredibly stupid, unlucky and sad. Her parents lost one child and her brother will need care for the rest of his life. Amazing how much life can change in an instant. Will try to be motivated by this to really monitor my drink intake.
Anonymous wrote:I saw a picture of the SUV at a weird angle and a gold sedan, Toyota maybe, parked in the driveway, wonder if she was trying to manuver around it.
Anonymous wrote:...and immediately passed out again and rolled forward. Very plausible and doesn't mean she was an alcoholic. Out partying to celebrate.