Sorry, "you" refuse.....

We drive up north several times per year. With plates from this area, drivers assume we are rude and clueless, among other things. I have a friend that puts NY stickers all over her car to drop a hint when she drives there. She claims it works, so that people behave decently to her when she is up there. Otherwise, no chance. The rest of the country thinks we are stupid here, and we can't drive for anything. The funny thing is, people here keep reinforcing this.

Why so angry behind the wheel that refuse to be considerate? Is this another D.C. pissing contest?

It is BOTH manners AND law in many areas. PP, you need to get out more!

The passive aggressiveness that prevails in this area should be embarrassing for the nation's capitol.

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Anonymous wrote:My dad does this. His reasoning is that if he's doing the speed limit, he doesn't have to let anyone pass him. I think it's really jerky behavior, myself.

I believe this is illegal in VA, because VA requires that traffic in the left lane yield to faster-moving traffic:

§ 46.2-842.1. Drivers to give way to certain overtaking vehicles on divided highways.

It shall be unlawful to fail to give way to overtaking traffic when driving a motor vehicle to the left and abreast of another motor vehicle on a divided highway. On audible or light signal, the driver of the overtaken vehicle shall move to the right to allow the overtaking vehicle to pass as soon as the overtaken vehicle can safely do so. A violation of this section shall not be construed as negligence per se in any civil action.

No so. If the speed limit is 55 and you are driving 55, you do not have to move to the right in VA. If you are driving 45 mph, then, yes, you do have to move to right lane.

You do have to move for emergency vehicles--police with siren, ambulance, but just because you want to drive 75 mph doesn't make your car an emergency vehicle.

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Anonymous wrote:My dad does this. His reasoning is that if he's doing the speed limit, he doesn't have to let anyone pass him. I think it's really jerky behavior, myself.

I believe this is illegal in VA, because VA requires that traffic in the left lane yield to faster-moving traffic:

§ 46.2-842.1. Drivers to give way to certain overtaking vehicles on divided highways.

It shall be unlawful to fail to give way to overtaking traffic when driving a motor vehicle to the left and abreast of another motor vehicle on a divided highway. On audible or light signal, the driver of the overtaken vehicle shall move to the right to allow the overtaking vehicle to pass as soon as the overtaken vehicle can safely do so. A violation of this section shall not be construed as negligence per se in any civil action.

No so. If the speed limit is 55 and you are driving 55, you do not have to move to the right in VA. If you are driving 45 mph, then, yes, you do have to move to right lane.

I chalk it up to the whole lack of common courtesy that I see lacking in the population in general these days.

Move, right, people! poster here, and I think it's that compounded by laziness. I swear, people don't want to exert the effort of being in the right lane, and dealing with people merging on and off, unless they're actually getting on or off. So they just get into the left lane and putter along because the right lane is too hard (I'm talking about two-lane-each-way interstates here). And then it's compounded by the people passing people going 64 because their cruise control is set one mile higher so they take two miles to pass the other car because god forbid they actually exert some effort by stepping on the gas. And also there are the few "they're not getting past me just so they can SPEED!" passive-aggressive types who just sit there going 60. All that combined makes for these horrible packs of cars and it can take ages to get free.

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Anonymous wrote:If you are going SL+5 to SL+10, and **passing cars in the right lane**, then why should you have to move over to accommodate some maniac going SL+20?

This is how I feel exactly. If I am actively passing cars in the right lane, and I'm not going to stick myself behind one of them because you want to go 80 and I'm only going 70. I am aware that you want to drive faster (you make it perfectly clear) and as soon as I have an opportunity to move over without getting stuck behind someone going slower than me, I will! Until then, wait your turn!

ITA.

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Anonymous wrote:I noticed on a recent trip to NC, drivers did use the left lane for passing and move to the right if you came up behind them. When I drive north thru Jersey and NY, drivers tend to park themselves in the left lane at 60 mph. Maybe southern drivers are more polite and mindful of this, but around here, forget it.

OP here, where my mom lives in upstate NY, people move for other drivers, too.
I wish VA would post signs along the left lane - "slower traffic move right"

I am from Upstate NY and people there are more considerate and do move over. The biggest traffic issue up there is getting stuck behind a tractor and not being able to pass.

Anonymous wrote:I noticed on a recent trip to NC, drivers did use the left lane for passing and move to the right if you came up behind them. When I drive north thru Jersey and NY, drivers tend to park themselves in the left lane at 60 mph. Maybe southern drivers are more polite and mindful of this, but around here, forget it.

Fascinating! My experience has been the exact opposite.

Anonymous wrote:I chalk it up to the whole lack of common courtesy that I see lacking in the population in general these days.

yes, and because they are on cell phones or otherwise not paying attention to what they are doing. so rude. i can't believe how self-absorbed drivers are!

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Anonymous wrote:I chalk it up to the whole lack of common courtesy that I see lacking in the population in general these days.

This is the issue, not the law.

It's hypocritical of people to post the law when they damn well know their intention is to break the law as well. Put the discussion back in the proper domain - manners.

How is it hypocritical to post the law? The law is not to pass on the right, if someone is sitting in the left lane going slow and I want to pass. I can't break that law. If the speed limit is 60 and they are going 55 - I have to no plans to break the law, I just want to pass them - legally.

Anonymous wrote:I chalk it up to the whole lack of common courtesy that I see lacking in the population in general these days.

This is the issue, not the law.

It's hypocritical of people to post the law when they damn well know their intention is to break the law as well. Put the discussion back in the proper domain - manners.

I agree with most posters here that it's annoying. But OP mentions seeing it on 66 at rush hour. Are you factoring in that the left lane is the only HOV lane at that time and it's not considered a passing lane then?

OP, thanks for posting. In some parts of the country, it is the law. Common sense should be a law in this geographical area! Then no one would be on the road

Anonymous wrote:This is how I feel exactly. If I am actively passing cars in the right lane, and I'm not going to stick myself behind one of them because you want to go 80 and I'm only going 70. I am aware that you want to drive faster (you make it perfectly clear) and as soon as I have an opportunity to move over without getting stuck behind someone going slower than me, I will! Until then, wait your turn!

I can understand it if you're driving 65 and actively trying to pass someone who's doing 60. In that situation, I'm happy to wait my turn -- I'll slow down from 70 to 65, wait for you to pass the other car, and let you move over to the right to let me by. But I often see people driving 65 who are in the left lane, and slooooooowwwwly creeping up to pass a car that's doing 64 in the right lane, while huge lines form behind you. If you're in that situation, I think you need to be a little more active in your passing to justify sitting in the left lane.

I've gotten used to flashing my lights at left-lane squatters, but only about half of them will move to the right even then.