Stanford, Emory, UCs , and UChicago dont use freshman gpa for admission

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Anonymous wrote:Ok, first of all the California posters need to go away. OP is from Virginia. This is a DMV focused website. Their kid is not going to go to a UC. Full stop.

Why do all of you just insist on polluting this website with all of your California bullshit!? Your state has 50 million people, surely you can find another website that is actually focused on you?

Second, with this student‘s GPA there is zero chance they are getting into William and Mary and it is highly unlikely they will get into Virginia Tech as well. They need to look at other schools in Virginia, but fortunately there are many good ones.

I know an OOS kid who had all Bs in sophomore year who is heading to VT in the Fall in a hard STEM major. Don't believe this.

That's because in other states good students still get Bs.

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Anonymous wrote:Ok, first of all the California posters need to go away. OP is from Virginia. This is a DMV focused website. Their kid is not going to go to a UC. Full stop.

Why do all of you just insist on polluting this website with all of your California bullshit!? Your state has 50 million people, surely you can find another website that is actually focused on you?

Second, with this student‘s GPA there is zero chance they are getting into William and Mary and it is highly unlikely they will get into Virginia Tech as well. They need to look at other schools in Virginia, but fortunately there are many good ones.

I know an OOS kid who had all Bs in sophomore year who is heading to VT in the Fall in a hard STEM major. Don't believe this.

+2 William and Mary is not that difficult of an admit either. OP’s kid should try for WM and VT as well as other OOS state flagships and mid tiers in states with more highly ranked options. UCs actually are a really good option if your kid wants to be in California, lol who wouldn’t want to be in CA!

Go to community college and then transfer to a top 50.

Anonymous wrote:Ok, first of all the California posters need to go away. OP is from Virginia. This is a DMV focused website. Their kid is not going to go to a UC. Full stop.

Why do all of you just insist on polluting this website with all of your California bullshit!? Your state has 50 million people, surely you can find another website that is actually focused on you?

Second, with this student‘s GPA there is zero chance they are getting into William and Mary and it is highly unlikely they will get into Virginia Tech as well. They need to look at other schools in Virginia, but fortunately there are many good ones.

I know an OOS kid who had all Bs in sophomore year who is heading to VT in the Fall in a hard STEM major. Don't believe this.

Anonymous wrote:I think the UCs also don’t consider freshman year grades?

Neither does Stanford or Emory.

Anonymous wrote:Thanks everyone for your comments. Really appreciate it. DC says he will work hard next year and would try get As. DC is smart but not focused. I will be happy if DC gets into instate schools bW&M & VT

Oh my. I don’t think you understand how difficult it is to get into VA’s top publics. SCHEV reports the 75th percentile last year at W&M has a 4.51 GPA; median a 4.34; bottom 25th if the class had a 4.16. ACT at 75th percentile is a 34 or better. UVA is the sane. VT slightly lower but quirky and difficult for engineering.

Definitely consider UCs, but know that for other schools scores will matter a lot.

A 3.5 overall UW GPA with 1550+ SATs with decent ECs and several AP 5s could be competitive for top 50 schools.

A 3.5 UW GPA with 1300 SATs is a totally different story.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the UCs also don’t consider freshman year grades?

I don’t think this is true anymore unless you are FGLI Hispanic.

UCs require a C or higher in A-G classes regardless of demographic. If the C- was in one of the classes that meets the A-G then no UC will take them.

This is not true. UC does not consider plusses and minuses. There is not even a way to record them on the application. It also continues to be the case that freshman year grades are not factored into the calculated GPA and play at most an extremely marginal role in admissions.

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Anonymous wrote:If money is no object apply to all of the Univ of California colleges. They don't look at your freshman grades during freshman or senior years. Given all of the negative publicity they are facing now is a great time for an OOS student to apply.

OP, are the grades weighted or unweighted? Could he retake the C- course this summer in an accredited community college? He doesn’t have to retake the exact course especially if he has gotten As in the next courses in the series but if he takes a course in the A-G category where he got the C- then that would go further with UC.

sorry, I should have clarified. They are unweighted

Look at Emory and UCs

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Anonymous wrote:DC has C- and 3.3 GPA in freshman, but did better in Sophomore and Junior years..3.85 and 3.9 in respective year. In your experience, how will this hurt admission chances in top 50 schools?

From our school, this Shouldn’t be a problem for a non-Ivy T20. Vandy, WashU, Chicago.

Definitely add for those outside top 20: Emory, Georgia Tech, Penn State, VaTech,

What does your child want to study? Big school or small? And where in the state are you? If you are from Nova, UVA is most likely off the table, and possibly W&M. Downstate, who knows - it’s easier to get in from elsewhere. VT is also likely off the table if the low grade was in STEM and they want to study engineering. They should get into the rest of the state schools, easily. But so much is dependent on the whole package - how hard were the courses, ECs, etc.

Look for the school that best suits your kid’s learning style and career goals. Don’t chase a ranking, and if money is an issue many schools outside of the top ones will give merit money to bring the price down.

My kid had lower grades than that and got a D+ in chemistry sophomore year and still got in everywhere he applied. Needless to say he wasn’t applying for STEM, and he really liked small schools.

Anonymous wrote:DC has C- and 3.3 GPA in freshman, but did better in Sophomore and Junior years..3.85 and 3.9 in respective year. In your experience, how will this hurt admission chances in top 50 schools?

From our school, this Shouldn’t be a problem for a non-Ivy T20. Vandy, WashU, Chicago.

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Anonymous wrote:Again, why are you focused on a particular ranking? work on the kid's preferences, their strengths and weaknesses and focus on schools that will be good fits. There is definitely a good school for that kid and the way to find it is to focus on your kid, not rankings.

My kids both attend(ed) schools outside the T50 and are doing terrific.

Because she wants her kids to go to a top ranked school.

Just because your kids worked out in a non top 50 school doesn’t mean everyone will.

I think OP kids will be fine as long as other items are okay.

"Just because your kids worked out in a non top 50 school doesn’t mean everyone will."

Wow.