Anonymous wrote:Hi J1 J2 guy! Did they take you off your clozaril again?
Anonymous wrote:Not where I work (F500). The boomers are almost completely gone now. Because they retired! All the senior leadership are people in their 40s-50s, possibly into early 60s.
I see a lot of anger against the boomers online, but the anger is ignorant because boomers are already retired/rapidly retiring/rapidly dying off. Boomers are OLD! Remember this! They're not hogging jobs.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Boomer here. Two separate jobs reached out to me last two weeks. Both large departments where none of staff which includes VPs, managers, staff with no one qualified to run area. I am almost 65. One today offered me 385k base, 400k sign on payable over 4 years in annual payments and added I also get around 100k bonus. She added if I say 4 years I clear 800k. On top of salary.
The other is a really big fintech that just merged. Two smaller depts combined into one big dept and once again no one to lead.
Some questions they wanted to know my level of board and audit committee involvements. Am I direct point of contact regulator? Is my boss directly the Board or CEO, have I led a start up as member of sr. Mgt to IPO. My level of IT, AI, Cyber, Risk Mgt.
How many regulators and firms I had senior roles in. Have you led large teams remotely, have I taken over depts and turned them around. And they seemed very interest in my success stories, such as getting licenses, managing vendor relationships, exact example how I led in times of crisis.
It was no way you could get that experience without being at senior mgt level for 20-25 years and jumping company to company, and they seemed to want brand name companies.
Hence impossible to have any of this experience without having lots of jobs, and it is hard to get jobs that level.
I may take job 400k stock sign on. Only cause I can easily work till 68-70. To get full vest. But also if it flames out old enough just retire. They most likely give some severance.
The merger one I was told the new board feels neither head of area qualified to run area to being to next level, both are in mid 50s. So I would have two heads of dept reporting to me who both wanted job . One a women and one a man. I did that once and a hot mess.
But still shocked how younger people in 40s to 50s not prepared, I should be retired. Yet companies are data mining LinkedIn.
I think companies are lazy. Someone let me do all this things no prior experience yet in 2026 companies only want people who had done it before.
Boomers pushed out silent generation, now Gen Z will push Boomers out only cause we are leaving work force at alarming rate.
Also find it amusing I have been hopping jobs every three years since 54 and no one cares. I am getting sign on, a few bonus checks then on to next sign on. The younger folks are job hugging and I am picking up more skills. Now all at once companies love job hoppers? This would be job 13 for me if I took it.
Please someone take my job, please.
I agree companies are lazy. They only want to hire someone who has done similar work before. But it’s hard to get those ppl to move for 10k more.
Companies are also hypocrites. My boss hates job hoppers but expects a 30 year old to be an expert in our niche business management, a project manager, an implementation specialist and a vibe coder. No company in the world will have a junior employee rotate 4 different job functions.
At the same time I still have a lot of leg work because Gen Z looks down on managers who only manage, so that reduces my availability to support their training. And I can’t be the manager who only manages in case I get laid off I need to find a new job with those technical skills.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If boomers are still working they didn't manage their funds well and I feel bad for them.
No one should feel bad for them. Life on easy mode and did nothing but pull the ladder up behind them.
I’m a younger Boomer, and my millennial kids are educated, have great jobs and own beautiful homes they purchased themselves. Sorry you’re a loser.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am a Boomer who retired…after 65 but before 70.
Yet I know too many Boomers still working FT at ages 76-84, older than I am. I ask myself, why?
I think it is sad, when there is no financial need, to do so.( And sad when there is financial need to need to do so.)
There is financial fear. There is workaholism. And, yes, they block positions.
Will they regret it when their health declines and forces them to retire? No doubt, families and friends will sigh when they retire only to die or die while working.
Now, truly, we don’t value retirees enough but we can change that.
actually that is a better deal. I had two coworkers who had that happen, still on company medical plan, went on short term disability and one even got life insurance pay out. If they were already retired would have near bankrupted widow.
Once early in career the 68 years old Treasurer, who was a Widow. He kept working as no one at home. Had a Heart Attack while in a meeting with me. No it was just a BS meeting. But he went ashen, I knew something wrong, he went to bathroom, I followed him and imediately pushed panic button, went to Security, alerted them, ran by Fire Warden to call EMT, then I his admin call 911. We had a company nurse back then who also ran up Major company so we had a nurse back then. I was told if home alone he would have died. We were there in seconds.
I had just got training on it what to do in an emergency and it happend a few days later. An older man home alone often just dies. And since he was on company medical and happened at work all paid for.
Dude still did not retire, he stayed till 70 and they gave him package. I heard they had no kids, so he really had no family.
Anonymous wrote:Boomer here. Two separate jobs reached out to me last two weeks. Both large departments where none of staff which includes VPs, managers, staff with no one qualified to run area. I am almost 65. One today offered me 385k base, 400k sign on payable over 4 years in annual payments and added I also get around 100k bonus. She added if I say 4 years I clear 800k. On top of salary.
The other is a really big fintech that just merged. Two smaller depts combined into one big dept and once again no one to lead.
Some questions they wanted to know my level of board and audit committee involvements. Am I direct point of contact regulator? Is my boss directly the Board or CEO, have I led a start up as member of sr. Mgt to IPO. My level of IT, AI, Cyber, Risk Mgt.
How many regulators and firms I had senior roles in. Have you led large teams remotely, have I taken over depts and turned them around. And they seemed very interest in my success stories, such as getting licenses, managing vendor relationships, exact example how I led in times of crisis.
It was no way you could get that experience without being at senior mgt level for 20-25 years and jumping company to company, and they seemed to want brand name companies.
Hence impossible to have any of this experience without having lots of jobs, and it is hard to get jobs that level.
I may take job 400k stock sign on. Only cause I can easily work till 68-70. To get full vest. But also if it flames out old enough just retire. They most likely give some severance.
The merger one I was told the new board feels neither head of area qualified to run area to being to next level, both are in mid 50s. So I would have two heads of dept reporting to me who both wanted job . One a women and one a man. I did that once and a hot mess.
But still shocked how younger people in 40s to 50s not prepared, I should be retired. Yet companies are data mining LinkedIn.
I think companies are lazy. Someone let me do all this things no prior experience yet in 2026 companies only want people who had done it before.
Boomers pushed out silent generation, now Gen Z will push Boomers out only cause we are leaving work force at alarming rate.
Also find it amusing I have been hopping jobs every three years since 54 and no one cares. I am getting sign on, a few bonus checks then on to next sign on. The younger folks are job hugging and I am picking up more skills. Now all at once companies love job hoppers? This would be job 13 for me if I took it.
Please someone take my job, please.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If boomers are still working they didn't manage their funds well and I feel bad for them.
No one should feel bad for them. Life on easy mode and did nothing but pull the ladder up behind them.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am a Boomer who retired…after 65 but before 70.
Yet I know too many Boomers still working FT at ages 76-84, older than I am. I ask myself, why?
I think it is sad, when there is no financial need, to do so.( And sad when there is financial need to need to do so.)
There is financial fear. There is workaholism. And, yes, they block positions.
Will they regret it when their health declines and forces them to retire? No doubt, families and friends will sigh when they retire only to die or die while working.
Now, truly, we don’t value retirees enough but we can change that.
I'm the PP who is 63 with a DH who is 70. We are both still working and plan to do so for at least another 2 years. I'll probably work til I'm closer to 70.
We are extremely well set financially. Kids are grown. We spend plenty on travel, philanthrophy, house work, eating out, etc.
What I think is sad is that so many of you do not have, or apparently have never had, a job that you truly enjoy. Both DH and I love our work, including the people we work with. We are both in a position where we can take time off and travel when we want to, as is deserved after years of dedicated production. Why would we leave now?
Because your job shouldn't define you.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am a Boomer who retired…after 65 but before 70.
Yet I know too many Boomers still working FT at ages 76-84, older than I am. I ask myself, why?
I think it is sad, when there is no financial need, to do so.( And sad when there is financial need to need to do so.)
There is financial fear. There is workaholism. And, yes, they block positions.
Will they regret it when their health declines and forces them to retire? No doubt, families and friends will sigh when they retire only to die or die while working.
Now, truly, we don’t value retirees enough but we can change that.
I'm the PP who is 63 with a DH who is 70. We are both still working and plan to do so for at least another 2 years. I'll probably work til I'm closer to 70.
We are extremely well set financially. Kids are grown. We spend plenty on travel, philanthrophy, house work, eating out, etc.
What I think is sad is that so many of you do not have, or apparently have never had, a job that you truly enjoy. Both DH and I love our work, including the people we work with. We are both in a position where we can take time off and travel when we want to, as is deserved after years of dedicated production. Why would we leave now?
Anonymous wrote:I am a Boomer who retired…after 65 but before 70.
Yet I know too many Boomers still working FT at ages 76-84, older than I am. I ask myself, why?
I think it is sad, when there is no financial need, to do so.( And sad when there is financial need to need to do so.)
There is financial fear. There is workaholism. And, yes, they block positions.
Will they regret it when their health declines and forces them to retire? No doubt, families and friends will sigh when they retire only to die or die while working.
Now, truly, we don’t value retirees enough but we can change that.
Anonymous wrote:I am a Boomer who retired…after 65 but before 70.
Yet I know too many Boomers still working FT at ages 76-84, older than I am. I ask myself, why?
I think it is sad, when there is no financial need, to do so.( And sad when there is financial need to need to do so.)
There is financial fear. There is workaholism. And, yes, they block positions.
Will they regret it when their health declines and forces them to retire? No doubt, families and friends will sigh when they retire only to die or die while working.
Now, truly, we don’t value retirees enough but we can change that.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just saying. Since 2008 market crash companies really cut back on internships, formal mentoring programs, training programs. They also stopped regular promotion cycles.
Then in place to retain workers they did free or cheap perks. WFH, Flex Time, dress down, paternity leave type stuff rather than spending money training and promoting staff.
Then 2020 came and all opportunities to learn and be mentored stopped.
Now in 2026 the people who already reached VP pre 2008 phones are ringing off hook. But we are now old. You can’t not promote careers and do trading for 16 years.
My company is almost a Boomer Gen Z set up. Hire Boomer high pay to get it up and running with Gen Z being mentored and trained.
How did milenials and Gen X get missed on corporate ladder?
By time last of boomers retire in 2030 Gen Z will be new bosses.
The last of the boomers will not be retired by 2030. Not by a long shot.
I'm at the tail end of the baby boom (1962 DOB) and have always identified more with Gen X. Barring a health condition, however, I have no intention of retiring in 4 years. DH just turned 70 and is still going strong in corporate world.
Why, though? Did you not save? Who would WANT to be working at 70?
Anonymous wrote:OP both jobs that called me full remote for over six years. None of the 40-55 year olds who work there have developed any sr. Leadership skills working from home.
I have attended perhaps 200 in person Board meetings and 200 regulator and external auditor meetings. And worked directly 5 CEOs in person. I do think you can do your job remote but learning how to lead large teams, deal with crazy CEOs and Bosrd members is more Art than work and more EQ than IQ.
My current Board I often feel I am playing chess while they play checkers. Only because I have seen it done on multiple boards and I know what works as have seen a lot.
The young people are not seeing a lot anymore in pajama pants on zoom while watching Netflix in the side at a meeting. I know on Covid I did not. RTO is perhaps about sr leadership succession planning