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Anonymous wrote:My kid had some Bs and C and his overall GPA was higher than 4.2 after freshman year...he did a ton of classes before ever hitting TJ, though.

You have to get used to the lower grades. Lots of classes at TJ aren't there for you to succeed. They want you to take the B or lower or learn how to cheat to get an A (sadly)

You seem to have developed quite a coping mechanism. My child got poor grades because he/she did not cheat!! LOL

That's just what is reported to me by my kid.

That said, I've had detailed discussions about performance at TJ. The C he got - his math teacher said he understood the material perfectly but he needed to be about 3x faster completing the questions. So it wasn't about knowledge, it was about speed. It's completing complex math in equations in less than 2 minutes each.

Imagine being totally competent but that's not the goal.

That is a BS story your child fed you.

There are levels of understanding and also there is mastery you gain from practice. Someone who practiced such as by doing all the assigned homework, and many kids dont, can complete the tests on time.

Love the confidence of your response.

FWIW, my kid shared the same thing about speed being a major contributor to crushing the exams. And before you come at me, yes, kid studied a ton. HUGE disconnect between her grade in math class (low B) and what the SAT (780) and AP score (5) suggested her understanding of the content is. But maybe you're right in that her "mastery" wasn't what it should be bc #TJ. In the long term, having to work this hard will serve her and other students well. But from a GPA perspective and college app lens, it sucks. Or, maybe she's just dumb and/or doesn't care, right?

Also, +1 to cheating being a big issue. I've heard stories about Meta glasses, using chatGPT in class discussions, and peers directly telling her they used generative AI to write essays.

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Anonymous wrote:So is top GPA after 9th 4.5? Or can students take more than 2 AP in 9th? Getting 4.5 by 3 honors Alg1, geometry Alg 2 before 9th and pe in summer pass/fail so in 9th do 3 honors for IBET, a language, AP pre-calc, AP human geography and band= 40+6x.5 +2x1=49 so 45/10=4.5

How did you get 40?

10 classes x 4.0=40, add .5 for 6 honors and 1.0 for 2AP = weighted 4.5 (can be higher if take > 2 APs or something P/F)

Design and Tech is not an honors class.
Foreign language in MS is not counted as an honors class
i think foreign language at TJ is also not counted as a honors class, unless AP. not sure

So it would be very rare, and an unusual amount of APs to have 4.5 at the end of 9th grade. Part of why TJ and other schools don't rank. With people gaming the system with APs bumps, ranking by GPA doesn't really as much as it did 20 yrs ago.

Right, no college is going to look at an A in PE as a negative even if it leads to a lower weighted GPA compared to another who took it P/F.
Take classes that push you, that you enjoy, and do well in them.

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Anonymous wrote:So is top GPA after 9th 4.5? Or can students take more than 2 AP in 9th? Getting 4.5 by 3 honors Alg1, geometry Alg 2 before 9th and pe in summer pass/fail so in 9th do 3 honors for IBET, a language, AP pre-calc, AP human geography and band= 40+6x.5 +2x1=49 so 45/10=4.5

How did you get 40?

10 classes x 4.0=40, add .5 for 6 honors and 1.0 for 2AP = weighted 4.5 (can be higher if take > 2 APs or something P/F)

Design and Tech is not an honors class.
Foreign language in MS is not counted as an honors class
i think foreign language at TJ is also not counted as a honors class, unless AP. not sure

So it would be very rare, and an unusual amount of APs to have 4.5 at the end of 9th grade. Part of why TJ and other schools don't rank. With people gaming the system with APs bumps, ranking by GPA doesn't really as much as it did 20 yrs ago.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid had some Bs and C and his overall GPA was higher than 4.2 after freshman year...he did a ton of classes before ever hitting TJ, though.

You have to get used to the lower grades. Lots of classes at TJ aren't there for you to succeed. They want you to take the B or lower or learn how to cheat to get an A (sadly)

You seem to have developed quite a coping mechanism. My child got poor grades because he/she did not cheat!! LOL

That's just what is reported to me by my kid.

That said, I've had detailed discussions about performance at TJ. The C he got - his math teacher said he understood the material perfectly but he needed to be about 3x faster completing the questions. So it wasn't about knowledge, it was about speed. It's completing complex math in equations in less than 2 minutes each.

Imagine being totally competent but that's not the goal.

That is a BS story your child fed you.

There are levels of understanding and also there is mastery you gain from practice. Someone who practiced such as by doing all the assigned homework, and many kids dont, can complete the tests on time.

If only doing all the homework was enough.

That is a good sign that base HS is a better fit.

Perhaps. He is getting straight As but it hasn't been as easy as it may have been for your kid.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid had some Bs and C and his overall GPA was higher than 4.2 after freshman year...he did a ton of classes before ever hitting TJ, though.

You have to get used to the lower grades. Lots of classes at TJ aren't there for you to succeed. They want you to take the B or lower or learn how to cheat to get an A (sadly)

You seem to have developed quite a coping mechanism. My child got poor grades because he/she did not cheat!! LOL

That's just what is reported to me by my kid.

That said, I've had detailed discussions about performance at TJ. The C he got - his math teacher said he understood the material perfectly but he needed to be about 3x faster completing the questions. So it wasn't about knowledge, it was about speed. It's completing complex math in equations in less than 2 minutes each.

Imagine being totally competent but that's not the goal.

That is a BS story your child fed you.

There are levels of understanding and also there is mastery you gain from practice. Someone who practiced such as by doing all the assigned homework, and many kids dont, can complete the tests on time.

If only doing all the homework was enough.

That is a good sign that base HS is a better fit.

My kid has had timed math tests in base all through HS and HW did not count. Most cld not finish the Diff Equations exams on time unless they were granted 1.5 time to take them and the exams were far harder than the HW anyway.

That is a good sign you should not have accelerated math.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid had some Bs and C and his overall GPA was higher than 4.2 after freshman year...he did a ton of classes before ever hitting TJ, though.

You have to get used to the lower grades. Lots of classes at TJ aren't there for you to succeed. They want you to take the B or lower or learn how to cheat to get an A (sadly)

You seem to have developed quite a coping mechanism. My child got poor grades because he/she did not cheat!! LOL

That's just what is reported to me by my kid.

That said, I've had detailed discussions about performance at TJ. The C he got - his math teacher said he understood the material perfectly but he needed to be about 3x faster completing the questions. So it wasn't about knowledge, it was about speed. It's completing complex math in equations in less than 2 minutes each.

Imagine being totally competent but that's not the goal.

That is a BS story your child fed you.

There are levels of understanding and also there is mastery you gain from practice. Someone who practiced such as by doing all the assigned homework, and many kids dont, can complete the tests on time.

If only doing all the homework was enough.

That is a good sign that base HS is a better fit.

My kid has had timed math tests in base all through HS and HW did not count. Most cld not finish the Diff Equations exams on time unless they were granted 1.5 time to take them and the exams were far harder than the HW anyway.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid had some Bs and C and his overall GPA was higher than 4.2 after freshman year...he did a ton of classes before ever hitting TJ, though.

You have to get used to the lower grades. Lots of classes at TJ aren't there for you to succeed. They want you to take the B or lower or learn how to cheat to get an A (sadly)

You seem to have developed quite a coping mechanism. My child got poor grades because he/she did not cheat!! LOL

That's just what is reported to me by my kid.

That said, I've had detailed discussions about performance at TJ. The C he got - his math teacher said he understood the material perfectly but he needed to be about 3x faster completing the questions. So it wasn't about knowledge, it was about speed. It's completing complex math in equations in less than 2 minutes each.

Imagine being totally competent but that's not the goal.

That is a BS story your child fed you.

There are levels of understanding and also there is mastery you gain from practice. Someone who practiced such as by doing all the assigned homework, and many kids dont, can complete the tests on time.

If only doing all the homework was enough.

That is a good sign that base HS is a better fit.

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Anonymous wrote:So is top GPA after 9th 4.5? Or can students take more than 2 AP in 9th? Getting 4.5 by 3 honors Alg1, geometry Alg 2 before 9th and pe in summer pass/fail so in 9th do 3 honors for IBET, a language, AP pre-calc, AP human geography and band= 40+6x.5 +2x1=49 so 45/10=4.5

How did you get 40?

10 classes x 4.0=40, add .5 for 6 honors and 1.0 for 2AP = weighted 4.5 (can be higher if take > 2 APs or something P/F)

Why 10 classes? They have 7 credits each semester, so 14 credits per year. If you have P/F for PE, then there is still 12 classes?

It was an example to ask if that is how calculate was not intended to be exact but feel free to do that if want to post

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Anonymous wrote:So is top GPA after 9th 4.5? Or can students take more than 2 AP in 9th? Getting 4.5 by 3 honors Alg1, geometry Alg 2 before 9th and pe in summer pass/fail so in 9th do 3 honors for IBET, a language, AP pre-calc, AP human geography and band= 40+6x.5 +2x1=49 so 45/10=4.5

How did you get 40?

10 classes x 4.0=40, add .5 for 6 honors and 1.0 for 2AP = weighted 4.5 (can be higher if take > 2 APs or something P/F)

Why 10 classes? They have 7 credits each semester, so 14 credits per year. If you have P/F for PE, then there is still 12 classes?

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Anonymous wrote:So is top GPA after 9th 4.5? Or can students take more than 2 AP in 9th? Getting 4.5 by 3 honors Alg1, geometry Alg 2 before 9th and pe in summer pass/fail so in 9th do 3 honors for IBET, a language, AP pre-calc, AP human geography and band= 40+6x.5 +2x1=49 so 45/10=4.5

How did you get 40?

10 classes x 4.0=40, add .5 for 6 honors and 1.0 for 2AP = weighted 4.5 (can be higher if take > 2 APs or something P/F)

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid had some Bs and C and his overall GPA was higher than 4.2 after freshman year...he did a ton of classes before ever hitting TJ, though.

You have to get used to the lower grades. Lots of classes at TJ aren't there for you to succeed. They want you to take the B or lower or learn how to cheat to get an A (sadly)

You seem to have developed quite a coping mechanism. My child got poor grades because he/she did not cheat!! LOL

That's just what is reported to me by my kid.

That said, I've had detailed discussions about performance at TJ. The C he got - his math teacher said he understood the material perfectly but he needed to be about 3x faster completing the questions. So it wasn't about knowledge, it was about speed. It's completing complex math in equations in less than 2 minutes each.

Imagine being totally competent but that's not the goal.

That is a BS story your child fed you.

There are levels of understanding and also there is mastery you gain from practice. Someone who practiced such as by doing all the assigned homework, and many kids dont, can complete the tests on time.

If only doing all the homework was enough.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid had some Bs and C and his overall GPA was higher than 4.2 after freshman year...he did a ton of classes before ever hitting TJ, though.

You have to get used to the lower grades. Lots of classes at TJ aren't there for you to succeed. They want you to take the B or lower or learn how to cheat to get an A (sadly)

You seem to have developed quite a coping mechanism. My child got poor grades because he/she did not cheat!! LOL

That's just what is reported to me by my kid.

That said, I've had detailed discussions about performance at TJ. The C he got - his math teacher said he understood the material perfectly but he needed to be about 3x faster completing the questions. So it wasn't about knowledge, it was about speed. It's completing complex math in equations in less than 2 minutes each.

Imagine being totally competent but that's not the goal.

It's not just competence, it's expertise. How well do you know the material. Can you manipulate the questions to make them more easily solvable.

Given enough time, you can brute force your way through a lot of math problems, TJ doesn't always give you enough time for brute force unless you are lightning fast.

Anonymous wrote:So is top GPA after 9th 4.5? Or can students take more than 2 AP in 9th? Getting 4.5 by 3 honors Alg1, geometry Alg 2 before 9th and pe in summer pass/fail so in 9th do 3 honors for IBET, a language, AP pre-calc, AP human geography and band= 40+6x.5 +2x1=49 so 45/10=4.5

How did you get 40?

Anonymous wrote:So is top GPA after 9th 4.5? Or can students take more than 2 AP in 9th? Getting 4.5 by 3 honors Alg1, geometry Alg 2 before 9th and pe in summer pass/fail so in 9th do 3 honors for IBET, a language, AP pre-calc, AP human geography and band= 40+6x.5 +2x1=45/10=4.5

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So is top GPA after 9th 4.5? Or can students take more than 2 AP in 9th? Getting 4.5 by 3 honors Alg1, geometry Alg 2 before 9th and pe in summer pass/fail so in 9th do 3 honors for IBET, a language, AP pre-calc, AP human geography and band= 40+6x.5 +2x1=49 so 45/10=4.5