Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP, you need to expand on this:
"Now somehow MY daughter is the one facing consequences. She was forced to stay after school, missed her bus, and now we have to report to the principal's office even though she was the victim. Her entire summer is now ruined because of this."
What are the consequences she is facing? The fact that she had to stay after school that day and you both have to have a conversation with the principal? Seems to me like normal procedure for both people involved in a fight. Are you certain the other person did not face the same "consequences"? Her summer is not ruined.
You are right to be upset that your daughter has been bullied and that she got in a fight. But being extremely over dramatic about what has happened after the fight is not the right approach.
Cut OP some slack, she was posting emotionally right after the incident. Put yourself in her shoes and consider that you, too, might catastrophize a bit or post a despairing comment on an anonymous board in the same situation. It does not encapsulate her entire response, it's just what she wrote here to strangers in a vulnerable moment. Getting fixated on it instead of focusing on the broader picture (OP's daughter needs a plan for approaching the meeting with the principal and it's important she and her mom properly communicate the context of the incident).
When someone catastrophizes in an emotional moment, you can help them by staying grounded in reality, not by flipping it around and criticizing their emotional response to a very upsetting situation. Something to remember when dealing with teens, too.
Anonymous wrote:OP, you need to expand on this:
"Now somehow MY daughter is the one facing consequences. She was forced to stay after school, missed her bus, and now we have to report to the principal's office even though she was the victim. Her entire summer is now ruined because of this."
What are the consequences she is facing? The fact that she had to stay after school that day and you both have to have a conversation with the principal? Seems to me like normal procedure for both people involved in a fight. Are you certain the other person did not face the same "consequences"? Her summer is not ruined.
You are right to be upset that your daughter has been bullied and that she got in a fight. But being extremely over dramatic about what has happened after the fight is not the right approach.
Anonymous wrote:OP, my daughter is definitely the victim here. The girl has started rumours about my daughter and has cyber bullied her and accused her of stealing her boyfriend, because he was the bully’s crush in 8th grade. The girl shows jealousy towards my daughter, and I’ve seen how she’s bullied my daughter all year. I’ve gone to the counselors office many times. I will be going to the police department.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:YES we have been in this situation. Like exactly -- DD spent the whole year either avoiding this group of girls who kept trying to bait her (she's been friends with one of them a previous year but they either fell out or lost touch, and the girl formed a new friend group and decided they ALL hated my DD in solidarity), or politely asking them to stop. Really aggressive behavior like surrounding her at lunch or in the library (sitting on all sides), asking her questions about her grades and love life so they could make fun of her, etc. Finally in May of that year DD got frustrated and shoved one of these girls and she was suspended for fighting. It was really unfair. We fought it and not only got the suspension lifted but the other girls had to do counseling with my daughter and the finally left her alone after that.
My advice: document everything, including any texts or emails you have addressing the bullying earlier in the year. Both you and your daughter should sit down now and write a narrative description of what led to the right and what happened in the fight (or for you, how you found out and what your daughter has been doing since). Also when you meet with the school, ask them to provide you with a summary of every action the school has taken on this issue and the names of every staffer involved.
I found that once they understood I was organized and would be advocating for my daughter, they very quickly changed their tune from punitive to collaborative. They want to avoid litigation and the want to avoid any discussion of their own failures in supervising behavior. Frame everything as you seeking to understand their process -- especially if they ignored complaints from you or your DD regarding the past behavior of these girls , they will be eager to paper it over as merely a misunderstanding.
You don't have to just take it. Don't let them scapegoat her.
This is the only time that so-called "restorative justice" - ie, meeting with the all the kids who were involved - works in schools. It's when the "perps" are actually the victims of low-key but persistent harassment.
I'm glad it worked out for your child, PP. Thank goodness you were there to fight for her.
Anonymous wrote:YES we have been in this situation. Like exactly -- DD spent the whole year either avoiding this group of girls who kept trying to bait her (she's been friends with one of them a previous year but they either fell out or lost touch, and the girl formed a new friend group and decided they ALL hated my DD in solidarity), or politely asking them to stop. Really aggressive behavior like surrounding her at lunch or in the library (sitting on all sides), asking her questions about her grades and love life so they could make fun of her, etc. Finally in May of that year DD got frustrated and shoved one of these girls and she was suspended for fighting. It was really unfair. We fought it and not only got the suspension lifted but the other girls had to do counseling with my daughter and the finally left her alone after that.
My advice: document everything, including any texts or emails you have addressing the bullying earlier in the year. Both you and your daughter should sit down now and write a narrative description of what led to the right and what happened in the fight (or for you, how you found out and what your daughter has been doing since). Also when you meet with the school, ask them to provide you with a summary of every action the school has taken on this issue and the names of every staffer involved.
I found that once they understood I was organized and would be advocating for my daughter, they very quickly changed their tune from punitive to collaborative. They want to avoid litigation and the want to avoid any discussion of their own failures in supervising behavior. Frame everything as you seeking to understand their process -- especially if they ignored complaints from you or your DD regarding the past behavior of these girls , they will be eager to paper it over as merely a misunderstanding.
You don't have to just take it. Don't let them scapegoat her.
Anonymous wrote:no one will do anything except suspend both students fighting. the police wont' do anything either we have filed reports and nothing happens.
Anonymous wrote:DD (16) got into a physical fight on the last day of school and I honestly don't know where to begin.
She has been relentlessly bullied all year by a girl in a rival friend group. The school has done absolutely nothing despite months of drama, harassment, rumors, and social warfare over boys and friendships. On the very last day of school, this girl finally attacked my daughter by pushing her. DD defended herself by pushing back, and a fight broke out.
Now somehow MY daughter is the one facing consequences. She was forced to stay after school, missed her bus, and now we have to report to the principal's office even though she was the victim. Her entire summer is now ruined because of this.
I am seriously considering filing a police report and pressing charges against the other girl and possibly pursuing legal action against the school for failing to protect my child despite a year of bullying.
Has anyone else dealt with this? Can schools really punish a child for defending herself after being physically assaulted? I am absolutely furious.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP, my daughter is definitely the victim here. The girl has started rumours about my daughter and has cyber bullied her and accused her of stealing her boyfriend, because he was the bully’s crush in 8th grade. The girl shows jealousy towards my daughter, and I’ve seen how she’s bullied my daughter all year. I’ve gone to the counselors office many times. I will be going to the police department.
I hope for your daughter’s sake you are right. Have you asked her if she wants to press charges? There’s zero chance I would involve the police in something like this unless I had video evidence that my daughter was not the aggressor. Even then, I’d be reluctant given how easy it is for police to charge the wrong person.
Your advice for a young woman is to just suck it up when she is bullied and attacked???!!!! Are you for real?!!!!!
If she wasn't injured then what is the point?
What is the point of holding someone who has assaulted you accountable? What is wrong with you people?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP, my daughter is definitely the victim here. The girl has started rumours about my daughter and has cyber bullied her and accused her of stealing her boyfriend, because he was the bully’s crush in 8th grade. The girl shows jealousy towards my daughter, and I’ve seen how she’s bullied my daughter all year. I’ve gone to the counselors office many times. I will be going to the police department.
I hope for your daughter’s sake you are right. Have you asked her if she wants to press charges? There’s zero chance I would involve the police in something like this unless I had video evidence that my daughter was not the aggressor. Even then, I’d be reluctant given how easy it is for police to charge the wrong person.
Your advice for a young woman is to just suck it up when she is bullied and attacked???!!!! Are you for real?!!!!!
If she wasn't injured then what is the point?
Anonymous wrote:Are they going to be in the same school next year? If not, I probably would let it go. If they will be in the same school, consider if switching schools make sense (in the long run for her mental state/physical safety). If not, file a police report. If there is a video evidence, screenshots, complaints made to school - your case is much stronger and a chance for your daughter being blamed decrease. If there is no strong evidence, consider that thee girl will lie and blame your daughter (perhaps fabricate information/screenshots using AI). Is this something you want your daughter to go through? Considering the assault you might be able to get a protective order.