Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm from NY. Smacktalk is our national pastime. Sticks and stones, baby. Like water off a duck's back.
What if it's not just unkind words though. What about when it's that weird relational aggression?
Like my kid got caught in this stupid drama with two other girls this year, where the two girls were sworn enemies at the beginning of the year and then one of them befriended my kid and my kid was like "yay a friend!" and then the other one also befriended her and she was like "oh wow, two friends, though it's stressful they don't like each other." And then the two girls made up, decided my kid sucked, and told her they didn't want to be her friend anymore and now they just stand near her talking about her but refusing to talk *to* her.
It is extremely hard not to dislike those kids, I'm sorry.
Look, some little kids are a-holes, or go through an a-hole period. And that period may be VERY long, like multiple years, or may just be a short time. Teach your kid to walk away if people are talking about her. Why would she stand there listening to them? She needs friends in multiple groups. I've always taught my kids to diversify their friend portfolio. If one group is unpleasant to be around, go hang out with a different group of friends.
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I have taught my kids to be floaters. They float in different group of friends. Also, I read and re-read "Queen Bees and WannaBes" and "Masterminds and Wingmen" for both my son and daughter, when they were younger to help them understand the dynamics. My kids will also call out bully behavior in others and
Apart from that, I made sure that I cultivated my own friend group in our expat community, among relatives, hobby groups, neighbors, friends - so that we had a mass of people and other children that my kids associated with. So, if one group of kids were mean to them, they had others and would appear least bothered.
Another thing was that we made sure that they were excelling in academics and ECs from very early on. These early successes built up their self-esteem and brought them in the orbit of other kids similar to them. As a parent, I made sure that my kids were busy, had awareness, were succeeding and chose kindness to others instead of being jerks.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm from NY. Smacktalk is our national pastime. Sticks and stones, baby. Like water off a duck's back.
What if it's not just unkind words though. What about when it's that weird relational aggression?
Like my kid got caught in this stupid drama with two other girls this year, where the two girls were sworn enemies at the beginning of the year and then one of them befriended my kid and my kid was like "yay a friend!" and then the other one also befriended her and she was like "oh wow, two friends, though it's stressful they don't like each other." And then the two girls made up, decided my kid sucked, and told her they didn't want to be her friend anymore and now they just stand near her talking about her but refusing to talk *to* her.
It is extremely hard not to dislike those kids, I'm sorry.
Look, some little kids are a-holes, or go through an a-hole period. And that period may be VERY long, like multiple years, or may just be a short time. Teach your kid to walk away if people are talking about her. Why would she stand there listening to them? She needs friends in multiple groups. I've always taught my kids to diversify their friend portfolio. If one group is unpleasant to be around, go hang out with a different group of friends.
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I have taught my kids to be floaters. They float in different group of friends. Also, I read and re-read "Queen Bees and WannaBes" and "Masterminds and Wingmen" for both my son and daughter, when they were younger to help them understand the dynamics. My kids will also call out bully behavior in others and
Apart from that, I made sure that I cultivated my own friend group in our expat community, among relatives, hobby groups, neighbors, friends - so that we had a mass of people and other children that my kids associated with. So, if one group of kids were mean to them, they had others and would appear least bothered.
Another thing was that we made sure that they were excelling in academics and ECs from very early on. These early successes built up their self-esteem and brought them in the orbit of other kids similar to them. As a parent, I made sure that my kids were busy, had awareness, were succeeding and chose kindness to others instead of being jerks.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yes, 6:39!
I sometimes hold the grudge so my kid can move on. There is a girl at her school who has been awful to her all year, making fun of how she dresses and talks, claiming she's lying about things she's telling the truth about (often academic stuff -- both girls are above grade level but the other girl will claim my daughter lied or got lucky in placement exams because she can't believe they are in the same groups or levels). It was the whole year. Teachers did nothing.
I tell my kid I'll never forgive that girl for her behavior. I even say stuff like "she'll probably grow out of it -- her behavior has been really immature and she'll learn she can't treat others this way" but then say that I, personally, will not forgive her for the way she's treated DD. I think it's such a relief to DD to hear that someone, anyone gives a damn about the situation. I also think given the lack of consequences at school (either disciplinary consequences from teachers or social consequences from peers), it's important to her that this girl have at least one solid consequence for her bad behavior, which is that my DD's mom will never forget what she did.
It's that girl's own parents job to help her change and have faith she can be better (if they even care, I suspect they might not). My concern is my kid. She needs me to hold this grudge and I will. She doesn't deserve to be treated this way and I need her to know that.
You need therapy!
Anonymous wrote:Yes, 6:39!
I sometimes hold the grudge so my kid can move on. There is a girl at her school who has been awful to her all year, making fun of how she dresses and talks, claiming she's lying about things she's telling the truth about (often academic stuff -- both girls are above grade level but the other girl will claim my daughter lied or got lucky in placement exams because she can't believe they are in the same groups or levels). It was the whole year. Teachers did nothing.
I tell my kid I'll never forgive that girl for her behavior. I even say stuff like "she'll probably grow out of it -- her behavior has been really immature and she'll learn she can't treat others this way" but then say that I, personally, will not forgive her for the way she's treated DD. I think it's such a relief to DD to hear that someone, anyone gives a damn about the situation. I also think given the lack of consequences at school (either disciplinary consequences from teachers or social consequences from peers), it's important to her that this girl have at least one solid consequence for her bad behavior, which is that my DD's mom will never forget what she did.
It's that girl's own parents job to help her change and have faith she can be better (if they even care, I suspect they might not). My concern is my kid. She needs me to hold this grudge and I will. She doesn't deserve to be treated this way and I need her to know that.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yes, 6:39!
I sometimes hold the grudge so my kid can move on. There is a girl at her school who has been awful to her all year, making fun of how she dresses and talks, claiming she's lying about things she's telling the truth about (often academic stuff -- both girls are above grade level but the other girl will claim my daughter lied or got lucky in placement exams because she can't believe they are in the same groups or levels). It was the whole year. Teachers did nothing.
I tell my kid I'll never forgive that girl for her behavior. I even say stuff like "she'll probably grow out of it -- her behavior has been really immature and she'll learn she can't treat others this way" but then say that I, personally, will not forgive her for the way she's treated DD. I think it's such a relief to DD to hear that someone, anyone gives a damn about the situation. I also think given the lack of consequences at school (either disciplinary consequences from teachers or social consequences from peers), it's important to her that this girl have at least one solid consequence for her bad behavior, which is that my DD's mom will never forget what she did.
It's that girl's own parents job to help her change and have faith she can be better (if they even care, I suspect they might not). My concern is my kid. She needs me to hold this grudge and I will. She doesn't deserve to be treated this way and I need her to know that.
Grow up
Does it upset you to learn that other parents recognize your kid's behavior for what is and don't just parrot BS like "everyone's trying their best!" when your kid spends an entire year verbally attacking a classmate? I'm sure that's hard.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yes, 6:39!
I sometimes hold the grudge so my kid can move on. There is a girl at her school who has been awful to her all year, making fun of how she dresses and talks, claiming she's lying about things she's telling the truth about (often academic stuff -- both girls are above grade level but the other girl will claim my daughter lied or got lucky in placement exams because she can't believe they are in the same groups or levels). It was the whole year. Teachers did nothing.
I tell my kid I'll never forgive that girl for her behavior. I even say stuff like "she'll probably grow out of it -- her behavior has been really immature and she'll learn she can't treat others this way" but then say that I, personally, will not forgive her for the way she's treated DD. I think it's such a relief to DD to hear that someone, anyone gives a damn about the situation. I also think given the lack of consequences at school (either disciplinary consequences from teachers or social consequences from peers), it's important to her that this girl have at least one solid consequence for her bad behavior, which is that my DD's mom will never forget what she did.
It's that girl's own parents job to help her change and have faith she can be better (if they even care, I suspect they might not). My concern is my kid. She needs me to hold this grudge and I will. She doesn't deserve to be treated this way and I need her to know that.
Grow up
Anonymous wrote:Yes, 6:39!
I sometimes hold the grudge so my kid can move on. There is a girl at her school who has been awful to her all year, making fun of how she dresses and talks, claiming she's lying about things she's telling the truth about (often academic stuff -- both girls are above grade level but the other girl will claim my daughter lied or got lucky in placement exams because she can't believe they are in the same groups or levels). It was the whole year. Teachers did nothing.
I tell my kid I'll never forgive that girl for her behavior. I even say stuff like "she'll probably grow out of it -- her behavior has been really immature and she'll learn she can't treat others this way" but then say that I, personally, will not forgive her for the way she's treated DD. I think it's such a relief to DD to hear that someone, anyone gives a damn about the situation. I also think given the lack of consequences at school (either disciplinary consequences from teachers or social consequences from peers), it's important to her that this girl have at least one solid consequence for her bad behavior, which is that my DD's mom will never forget what she did.
It's that girl's own parents job to help her change and have faith she can be better (if they even care, I suspect they might not). My concern is my kid. She needs me to hold this grudge and I will. She doesn't deserve to be treated this way and I need her to know that.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is really eye-opening to me- so many grudge holders. I just don't operate that way.
Maybe it's partly from being a teacher, and seeing how much kids change from year to year, but I think you all are being hugely unfair.
I would never encourage a friendship with someone who is being awful, but I also think kids change.
Nobody said kids don’t change.
But they've said they continue to hold grudges. Why? Something a kid did when they were 8.... now they're 13, and basically a different person... people are saying they still hold a grudge because "mom has a long memory".
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s okay for you to dislike those kids that hurt your kid- the world won’t end.
You should also accept that those kids may change and will mature so these kids might circle back into your kids life again. I guess my advice is to not a hold a grudge!