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Can you point me to that? I did a quick search and couldn’t find anything specially regarding tournaments being bad, or year round being bad. A few things carved soccer out as an exception, but not really on topic to the tournaments.

I’d love to read that research because I’m always trying to figure out the right balance and it’s very challenging.

https://publications.aap.org/aapnews/news/27833/Professionalization-of-youth-sports-can-lead-to?autologincheck=redirected

Lots of research on ‘professionalization of youth sports’ leading to burnout.

That’s not research. And it’s not soccer specific or regarding “year round” or tournaments specifically. Yes kids needs rest. Thats not the same as “year round.”

I am looking for actual studies. Not reports and interviews.

Did you read the article? It points to: https://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article/153/2/e2023065129/196435/Overuse-Injuries-Overtraining-and-Burnout-in-Young
That study states:
"Weekend Tournaments
Intensive weekend tournaments that include multiple games per day for several days are common in a number of youth sports in the United States. These may include up to 4 or 5 games in a single day, with very large acute training loads and no opportunity for adequate recovery in between. These spikes in training load are associated with significant impairments in well-being and sleep"
"Repeated high-volume events, such as weekend tournaments consisting of multiple full-length games, may also result in higher levels of accumulated stress that can overwhelm the intervening recovery. Year-round participation in sports may also increase the risk of overtraining in young athletes, as breaks from participation can allow for recovery before the next season."

Another study that is referenced (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25646361/) points out:
"Young athletes participating in more hours of sports per week than number of age in years (OR, 2.07; 95% CI, 1.40-3.05; P < .001) or whose ratio of organized sports to free play time was >2:1 hours/week had increased odds of having a serious overuse injury (OR, 1.87; 95% CI, 1.26-2.76; P < .01)."

Yes I read the article. I even read the weekend tournament section you're referencing AND I followed the reference. From the first report you referenced (its also not a study or research).

Intensive weekend tournaments that include multiple games per day for several days are common in a number of youth sports in the United States. These may include up to 4 or 5 games in a single day, with very large acute training loads and no opportunity for adequate recovery in between. These spikes in training load are associated with significant impairments in well-being and sleep, as well as the requisite environmental exposure for outdoor activities. Although specific evidence in youth athletes is not available, prolonged environmental exposure can lead to an increased risk of heat-related illness, and the accumulated fatigue may increase the risk for injury and illness. When several of these events are included in a single season, young athletes may be at an increased risk of burnout because of a lack of free time and opportunities to pursue other activities.

If you read these reports and articles with an opinion already formed, of course you find what you want. But if you read it and are trying to actually find out what the data says...it doesn't say much! For example, the referenced study (citation 30), doesn't actually study tournaments, soccer or anything like that, it just studies youth athletes baseline and then post training, and an n of 56. Thats how I'm looking at this stuff, I really want to drill down into the known knowns. There is a ton on football overall, but football seems to be one of the sports that often gets carved out as an exception, such as early specialization. And then laymen opinions and points of view just sort of overwhelms the dialogue.

I appreciate your effort though. If I find what I'm looking for, I'll circle back and share it.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Can you point me to that? I did a quick search and couldn’t find anything specially regarding tournaments being bad, or year round being bad. A few things carved soccer out as an exception, but not really on topic to the tournaments.

I’d love to read that research because I’m always trying to figure out the right balance and it’s very challenging.

https://publications.aap.org/aapnews/news/27833/Professionalization-of-youth-sports-can-lead-to?autologincheck=redirected

Lots of research on ‘professionalization of youth sports’ leading to burnout.

That’s not research. And it’s not soccer specific or regarding “year round” or tournaments specifically. Yes kids needs rest. Thats not the same as “year round.”

I am looking for actual studies. Not reports and interviews.

Did you read the article? It points to: https://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article/153/2/e2023065129/196435/Overuse-Injuries-Overtraining-and-Burnout-in-Young
That study states:
"Weekend Tournaments
Intensive weekend tournaments that include multiple games per day for several days are common in a number of youth sports in the United States. These may include up to 4 or 5 games in a single day, with very large acute training loads and no opportunity for adequate recovery in between. These spikes in training load are associated with significant impairments in well-being and sleep"
"Repeated high-volume events, such as weekend tournaments consisting of multiple full-length games, may also result in higher levels of accumulated stress that can overwhelm the intervening recovery. Year-round participation in sports may also increase the risk of overtraining in young athletes, as breaks from participation can allow for recovery before the next season."

Another study that is referenced (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25646361/) points out:
"Young athletes participating in more hours of sports per week than number of age in years (OR, 2.07; 95% CI, 1.40-3.05; P < .001) or whose ratio of organized sports to free play time was >2:1 hours/week had increased odds of having a serious overuse injury (OR, 1.87; 95% CI, 1.26-2.76; P < .01)."

I applaud your effort, but there's no convincing anyone who asks for "research" so best to move on. I found these helpful though!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Can you point me to that? I did a quick search and couldn’t find anything specially regarding tournaments being bad, or year round being bad. A few things carved soccer out as an exception, but not really on topic to the tournaments.

I’d love to read that research because I’m always trying to figure out the right balance and it’s very challenging.

https://publications.aap.org/aapnews/news/27833/Professionalization-of-youth-sports-can-lead-to?autologincheck=redirected

Lots of research on ‘professionalization of youth sports’ leading to burnout.

That’s not research. And it’s not soccer specific or regarding “year round” or tournaments specifically. Yes kids needs rest. Thats not the same as “year round.”

I am looking for actual studies. Not reports and interviews.

Did you read the article? It points to: https://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article/153/2/e2023065129/196435/Overuse-Injuries-Overtraining-and-Burnout-in-Young
That study states:
"Weekend Tournaments
Intensive weekend tournaments that include multiple games per day for several days are common in a number of youth sports in the United States. These may include up to 4 or 5 games in a single day, with very large acute training loads and no opportunity for adequate recovery in between. These spikes in training load are associated with significant impairments in well-being and sleep"
"Repeated high-volume events, such as weekend tournaments consisting of multiple full-length games, may also result in higher levels of accumulated stress that can overwhelm the intervening recovery. Year-round participation in sports may also increase the risk of overtraining in young athletes, as breaks from participation can allow for recovery before the next season."

Another study that is referenced (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25646361/) points out:
"Young athletes participating in more hours of sports per week than number of age in years (OR, 2.07; 95% CI, 1.40-3.05; P < .001) or whose ratio of organized sports to free play time was >2:1 hours/week had increased odds of having a serious overuse injury (OR, 1.87; 95% CI, 1.26-2.76; P < .01)."