Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So I did some rough unscientific counting on the FCPS hs instagrams. Marshall had about 180 kids report, about 6 are headed to uva. Madison had 14 uva, I didn’t count the # reporting. McLean high has about 36, with 345 reporting.
Obviously the # of kids affects results, as does the economic diversity of the hs. Marshall has some impressive destinations like Caltech, Hopkins, Vanderbilt but those seem more outliers than the norm. McLean has many more top tier as well as general name brand. A lot of that is reflects who moves to McLean and why.
The uva thing is a little surprising to me bc dcum conventional wisdom is that uva seeks to distribute acceptances roughly equally between low, middle, and high Ses high schools—which roughly works out to 5% per school, to the point where people on this site often moan how it’s “easier” to get to uva from a lower Ses high school than a richer public.
Still, the Marshall #s for both uva and namebrand/top schools is noticeably lower. I believe Marshall high has about high # of kids who do the full ib diploma, so it had many bright and strong students. Do people think the differences reflect social class, a ton of Marshall kids just not reporting that they’re going to UVa or not being into bragging about their results, more Marshall kids turning down uva for cheaper options, Marshall students not doing as well in admissions bc of IB (seems unlikely?), Marshall kids being less likely to have college consultants than mclean kids (also related to social class)…?
Curious to hear any theories!
One can only imagine what else this parent is doing! Counting individual Instagram posts of multiple high schools and tabulating the results?
This is the parent you have to worry about and be careful.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:While it's an incomplete data set, I do believe the IB curriculum is holding back some of the top kids at Marshall (I'm a Marshall parent). The way math and science classes are taught within IB puts them at a disadvantage compared to AP.
That said, the IG is a subset of kids that report. Looking at Marshall's Naviance, there's a pretty clear line at a WGPA of 4.40 where it's almost all green checks for UVA.
My friend at another IB school feels the exact opposite- that IB made her kid stand out (kid went TO). I guess we'll never know!
At W&L IB is a boost for UVA. I just counted and they have 29 going from this year's class who have posted.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:UVA is not a good deal so if cost is a factor, kids might be opting for merit elsewhere.
UVA is a great deal. What better deal are you finding in VA?
NP but my senior didn’t apply to any schools in VA and his OOS school ended up costing less than UVA. He had no interest in applying there. It’s not a good fit for everyone.
It’s not true, but some feel like the VA schools will be a continuation of HS and this area. He didn’t even want to visit them and only looked OOS.
I could've written the same thing. My DS is graduating from Marshall and did not want to go to any DMV schools.
If you look at the Instagram pages the percentage of Marshall kids staying in-state is higher than at some nearby schools. It’s just that the more common state schools are VT, JMU, VCU, and GMU rather than UVA.
Plus plenty of Marshall kiddos go to Northern Virginia Community College too.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So I did some rough unscientific counting on the FCPS hs instagrams. Marshall had about 180 kids report, about 6 are headed to uva. Madison had 14 uva, I didn’t count the # reporting. McLean high has about 36, with 345 reporting.
Obviously the # of kids affects results, as does the economic diversity of the hs. Marshall has some impressive destinations like Caltech, Hopkins, Vanderbilt but those seem more outliers than the norm. McLean has many more top tier as well as general name brand. A lot of that is reflects who moves to McLean and why.
The uva thing is a little surprising to me bc dcum conventional wisdom is that uva seeks to distribute acceptances roughly equally between low, middle, and high Ses high schools—which roughly works out to 5% per school, to the point where people on this site often moan how it’s “easier” to get to uva from a lower Ses high school than a richer public.
Still, the Marshall #s for both uva and namebrand/top schools is noticeably lower. I believe Marshall high has about high # of kids who do the full ib diploma, so it had many bright and strong students. Do people think the differences reflect social class, a ton of Marshall kids just not reporting that they’re going to UVa or not being into bragging about their results, more Marshall kids turning down uva for cheaper options, Marshall students not doing as well in admissions bc of IB (seems unlikely?), Marshall kids being less likely to have college consultants than mclean kids (also related to social class)…?
Curious to hear any theories!
One can only imagine what else this parent is doing! Counting individual Instagram posts of multiple high schools and tabulating the results?
This is the parent you have to worry about and be careful.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So I did some rough unscientific counting on the FCPS hs instagrams. Marshall had about 180 kids report, about 6 are headed to uva. Madison had 14 uva, I didn’t count the # reporting. McLean high has about 36, with 345 reporting.
Obviously the # of kids affects results, as does the economic diversity of the hs. Marshall has some impressive destinations like Caltech, Hopkins, Vanderbilt but those seem more outliers than the norm. McLean has many more top tier as well as general name brand. A lot of that is reflects who moves to McLean and why.
The uva thing is a little surprising to me bc dcum conventional wisdom is that uva seeks to distribute acceptances roughly equally between low, middle, and high Ses high schools—which roughly works out to 5% per school, to the point where people on this site often moan how it’s “easier” to get to uva from a lower Ses high school than a richer public.
Still, the Marshall #s for both uva and namebrand/top schools is noticeably lower. I believe Marshall high has about high # of kids who do the full ib diploma, so it had many bright and strong students. Do people think the differences reflect social class, a ton of Marshall kids just not reporting that they’re going to UVa or not being into bragging about their results, more Marshall kids turning down uva for cheaper options, Marshall students not doing as well in admissions bc of IB (seems unlikely?), Marshall kids being less likely to have college consultants than mclean kids (also related to social class)…?
Curious to hear any theories!
One can only imagine what else this parent is doing! Counting individual Instagram posts of multiple high schools and tabulating the results?
This is the parent you have to worry about and be careful.
Anonymous wrote:So I did some rough unscientific counting on the FCPS hs instagrams. Marshall had about 180 kids report, about 6 are headed to uva. Madison had 14 uva, I didn’t count the # reporting. McLean high has about 36, with 345 reporting.
Obviously the # of kids affects results, as does the economic diversity of the hs. Marshall has some impressive destinations like Caltech, Hopkins, Vanderbilt but those seem more outliers than the norm. McLean has many more top tier as well as general name brand. A lot of that is reflects who moves to McLean and why.
The uva thing is a little surprising to me bc dcum conventional wisdom is that uva seeks to distribute acceptances roughly equally between low, middle, and high Ses high schools—which roughly works out to 5% per school, to the point where people on this site often moan how it’s “easier” to get to uva from a lower Ses high school than a richer public.
Still, the Marshall #s for both uva and namebrand/top schools is noticeably lower. I believe Marshall high has about high # of kids who do the full ib diploma, so it had many bright and strong students. Do people think the differences reflect social class, a ton of Marshall kids just not reporting that they’re going to UVa or not being into bragging about their results, more Marshall kids turning down uva for cheaper options, Marshall students not doing as well in admissions bc of IB (seems unlikely?), Marshall kids being less likely to have college consultants than mclean kids (also related to social class)…?
Curious to hear any theories!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:UVA is not a good deal so if cost is a factor, kids might be opting for merit elsewhere.
UVA is a great deal. What better deal are you finding in VA?
NP but my senior didn’t apply to any schools in VA and his OOS school ended up costing less than UVA. He had no interest in applying there. It’s not a good fit for everyone.
It’s not true, but some feel like the VA schools will be a continuation of HS and this area. He didn’t even want to visit them and only looked OOS.
I could've written the same thing. My DS is graduating from Marshall and did not want to go to any DMV schools.
If you look at the Instagram pages the percentage of Marshall kids staying in-state is higher than at some nearby schools. It’s just that the more common state schools are VT, JMU, VCU, and GMU rather than UVA.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:UVA is not a good deal so if cost is a factor, kids might be opting for merit elsewhere.
UVA is a great deal. What better deal are you finding in VA?
NP but my senior didn’t apply to any schools in VA and his OOS school ended up costing less than UVA. He had no interest in applying there. It’s not a good fit for everyone.
It’s not true, but some feel like the VA schools will be a continuation of HS and this area. He didn’t even want to visit them and only looked OOS.
I could've written the same thing. My DS is graduating from Marshall and did not want to go to any DMV schools.
If you look at the Instagram pages the percentage of Marshall kids staying in-state is higher than at some nearby schools. It’s just that the more common state schools are VT, JMU, VCU, and GMU rather than UVA.
Anonymous wrote:So I did some rough unscientific counting on the FCPS hs instagrams. Marshall had about 180 kids report, about 6 are headed to uva. Madison had 14 uva, I didn’t count the # reporting. McLean high has about 36, with 345 reporting.
Obviously the # of kids affects results, as does the economic diversity of the hs. Marshall has some impressive destinations like Caltech, Hopkins, Vanderbilt but those seem more outliers than the norm. McLean has many more top tier as well as general name brand. A lot of that is reflects who moves to McLean and why.
The uva thing is a little surprising to me bc dcum conventional wisdom is that uva seeks to distribute acceptances roughly equally between low, middle, and high Ses high schools—which roughly works out to 5% per school, to the point where people on this site often moan how it’s “easier” to get to uva from a lower Ses high school than a richer public.
Still, the Marshall #s for both uva and namebrand/top schools is noticeably lower. I believe Marshall high has about high # of kids who do the full ib diploma, so it had many bright and strong students. Do people think the differences reflect social class, a ton of Marshall kids just not reporting that they’re going to UVa or not being into bragging about their results, more Marshall kids turning down uva for cheaper options, Marshall students not doing as well in admissions bc of IB (seems unlikely?), Marshall kids being less likely to have college consultants than mclean kids (also related to social class)…?
Curious to hear any theories!