Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Neuropsych evals can be very helpful in the situations you described, but there is also a tendency on this board for people to recommend neuropsych evaluation as a first step when there are other options that may be faster, cheaper, and effective. For example, if a parent suspects their child may have mild to moderate anxiety or ADHD, an intake appointment with a child psychologist or psychiatrist may be fully effective in diagnosing, treating, and getting school accommodations.
+1 billion
Which thread suggests getting a neuropsych as the first step? The ones I see pertain to kids who are currently getting services/therapy or were until very recently. I think y'all have created a straw man here just to entertain yourselves.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Neuropsych evals can be very helpful in the situations you described, but there is also a tendency on this board for people to recommend neuropsych evaluation as a first step when there are other options that may be faster, cheaper, and effective. For example, if a parent suspects their child may have mild to moderate anxiety or ADHD, an intake appointment with a child psychologist or psychiatrist may be fully effective in diagnosing, treating, and getting school accommodations.
+1. Plus the school testing can be very good - ours had basically identical results to the tests the neuropsychologist did.
That's so great! Isn't available to everyone. School districts do not have an obligation to evaluate every child. Educational impacts may not be apparent until the child is older.
Feel free to share your experiences with neuropsychs and their alternatives but please stop derailing every thread from someone who is NOT starting from square 1 and stop spreading misinformation that will confuse people who are asking for help. Neuropsychs CAN help with diagnosis, especially where the picture is mixed or unclear. Neuropsychological testing CAN help the psychologist differentiate between different underlying issues. Not not every neuropsych is successful in doing so. Feel free to share providers you recommend against that failed to.acvhieve what you expected them to achieve.
If your kid is so mildly affected they don’t even need an IEP then I guess you’re having a totally different conversation. And if neuropsych testing were free we wouldn’t be here.
Also you absolutely don’t have a lock on correct information. It’s not confusing to give people information about different types of intervention and testing.
The person who is hating on neuropsych evals (I think it’s you) keeps insisting there are downsides besides cost, but then it always comes back to cost.
Cost is a very real consideration, and these evaluations are not cheap. But there are few other downsides perhaps inconvenience or not really enjoying the test.
I am not PP, but you are 100% wrong with your statement that, other than cost, there is never any downside to doing neuropsych evaluation.
If you are the person who made this claim, then you should know that your insistence on this statement spurred a chain reaction of negative comments.
I cannot speak for other posters who argued with you, but, personally I am not against neuropsych evaluations. However, from my own experience I can confidently state that they can be a wrong choice and not just because of the cost.
In the previous thread I have suggested that people should share what made their evaluation successful in order to help others. Our evaluation would have gone better if I had more info beforehand. I have a couple of categories that we could use as a starting point if you are genuinely interested in helping others. Making broad statements how there can never be a downside is wrong.
Also, would you mind sharing whether you are a parent, a provider, or both?
Interesting that you state this so definitively without giving any reasons why. How is one to decide whether it is the right or wrong choice for them without any additional guidance?
Anonymous wrote:The Neuropsych evals can be very helpful in the situations you described, but there is also a tendency on this board for people to recommend neuropsych evaluation as a first step when there are other options that may be faster, cheaper, and effective. For example, if a parent suspects their child may have mild to moderate anxiety or ADHD, an intake appointment with a child psychologist or psychiatrist may be fully effective in diagnosing, treating, and getting school accommodations.
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I’m OP and I absolutely agree with this. This was our path with one child and for another where the symptoms were very complicated and behavior was a real issue, we did neuropsych. We got the diagnoses we needed to pursue accurate treatments. Eight years later child us thriving and we wouldn’t be here without the correct diagnoses.
I posted because there are absolutely times and places for neuropsychs.
The aggressive poster has an axe to grind and seems to think they are a grift. My intention is for parents to feel supported and know that it can be a really good option especially when things are confusing and/or other things have been tried.
I have no idea what the intentions of the aggressive poster is. Truly.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Neuropsych evals can be very helpful in the situations you described, but there is also a tendency on this board for people to recommend neuropsych evaluation as a first step when there are other options that may be faster, cheaper, and effective. For example, if a parent suspects their child may have mild to moderate anxiety or ADHD, an intake appointment with a child psychologist or psychiatrist may be fully effective in diagnosing, treating, and getting school accommodations.
+1 billion
Which thread suggests getting a neuropsych as the first step? The ones I see pertain to kids who are currently getting services/therapy or were until very recently. I think y'all have created a straw man here just to entertain yourselves.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Neuropsych evals can be very helpful in the situations you described, but there is also a tendency on this board for people to recommend neuropsych evaluation as a first step when there are other options that may be faster, cheaper, and effective. For example, if a parent suspects their child may have mild to moderate anxiety or ADHD, an intake appointment with a child psychologist or psychiatrist may be fully effective in diagnosing, treating, and getting school accommodations.
I’m OP and I absolutely agree with this. This was our path with one child and for another where the symptoms were very complicated and behavior was a real issue, we did neuropsych. We got the diagnoses we needed to pursue accurate treatments. Eight years later child us thriving and we wouldn’t be here without the correct diagnoses.
I posted because there are absolutely times and places for neuropsychs.
The aggressive poster has an axe to grind and seems to think they are a grift. My intention is for parents to feel supported and know that it can be a really good option especially when things are confusing and/or other things have been tried.
I have no idea what the intentions of the aggressive poster is. Truly.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Neuropsych evals can be very helpful in the situations you described, but there is also a tendency on this board for people to recommend neuropsych evaluation as a first step when there are other options that may be faster, cheaper, and effective. For example, if a parent suspects their child may have mild to moderate anxiety or ADHD, an intake appointment with a child psychologist or psychiatrist may be fully effective in diagnosing, treating, and getting school accommodations.
I’m OP and I absolutely agree with this. This was our path with one child and for another where the symptoms were very complicated and behavior was a real issue, we did neuropsych. We got the diagnoses we needed to pursue accurate treatments. Eight years later child us thriving and we wouldn’t be here without the correct diagnoses.
I posted because there are absolutely times and places for neuropsychs.
The aggressive poster has an axe to grind and seems to think they are a grift. My intention is for parents to feel supported and know that it can be a really good option especially when things are confusing and/or other things have been tried.
I have no idea what the intentions of the aggressive poster is. Truly.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Neuropsych evals can be very helpful in the situations you described, but there is also a tendency on this board for people to recommend neuropsych evaluation as a first step when there are other options that may be faster, cheaper, and effective. For example, if a parent suspects their child may have mild to moderate anxiety or ADHD, an intake appointment with a child psychologist or psychiatrist may be fully effective in diagnosing, treating, and getting school accommodations.
+1 billion
Anonymous wrote:Neuropsych evals can be very helpful in the situations you described, but there is also a tendency on this board for people to recommend neuropsych evaluation as a first step when there are other options that may be faster, cheaper, and effective. For example, if a parent suspects their child may have mild to moderate anxiety or ADHD, an intake appointment with a child psychologist or psychiatrist may be fully effective in diagnosing, treating, and getting school accommodations.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Neuropsych evals can be very helpful in the situations you described, but there is also a tendency on this board for people to recommend neuropsych evaluation as a first step when there are other options that may be faster, cheaper, and effective. For example, if a parent suspects their child may have mild to moderate anxiety or ADHD, an intake appointment with a child psychologist or psychiatrist may be fully effective in diagnosing, treating, and getting school accommodations.
+1. Plus the school testing can be very good - ours had basically identical results to the tests the neuropsychologist did.
That's so great! Isn't available to everyone. School districts do not have an obligation to evaluate every child. Educational impacts may not be apparent until the child is older.
Feel free to share your experiences with neuropsychs and their alternatives but please stop derailing every thread from someone who is NOT starting from square 1 and stop spreading misinformation that will confuse people who are asking for help. Neuropsychs CAN help with diagnosis, especially where the picture is mixed or unclear. Neuropsychological testing CAN help the psychologist differentiate between different underlying issues. Not not every neuropsych is successful in doing so. Feel free to share providers you recommend against that failed to.acvhieve what you expected them to achieve.
If your kid is so mildly affected they don’t even need an IEP then I guess you’re having a totally different conversation. And if neuropsych testing were free we wouldn’t be here.
Also you absolutely don’t have a lock on correct information. It’s not confusing to give people information about different types of intervention and testing.
The person who is hating on neuropsych evals (I think it’s you) keeps insisting there are downsides besides cost, but then it always comes back to cost.
Cost is a very real consideration, and these evaluations are not cheap. But there are few other downsides perhaps inconvenience or not really enjoying the test.
I am not PP, but you are 100% wrong with your statement that, other than cost, there is never any downside to doing neuropsych evaluation.
If you are the person who made this claim, then you should know that your insistence on this statement spurred a chain reaction of negative comments.
I cannot speak for other posters who argued with you, but, personally I am not against neuropsych evaluations. However, from my own experience I can confidently state that they can be a wrong choice and not just because of the cost.
In the previous thread I have suggested that people should share what made their evaluation successful in order to help others. Our evaluation would have gone better if I had more info beforehand. I have a couple of categories that we could use as a starting point if you are genuinely interested in helping others. Making broad statements how there can never be a downside is wrong.
Also, would you mind sharing whether you are a parent, a provider, or both?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Neuropsych evals can be very helpful in the situations you described, but there is also a tendency on this board for people to recommend neuropsych evaluation as a first step when there are other options that may be faster, cheaper, and effective. For example, if a parent suspects their child may have mild to moderate anxiety or ADHD, an intake appointment with a child psychologist or psychiatrist may be fully effective in diagnosing, treating, and getting school accommodations.
+1. Plus the school testing can be very good - ours had basically identical results to the tests the neuropsychologist did.
That's so great! Isn't available to everyone. School districts do not have an obligation to evaluate every child. Educational impacts may not be apparent until the child is older.
Feel free to share your experiences with neuropsychs and their alternatives but please stop derailing every thread from someone who is NOT starting from square 1 and stop spreading misinformation that will confuse people who are asking for help. Neuropsychs CAN help with diagnosis, especially where the picture is mixed or unclear. Neuropsychological testing CAN help the psychologist differentiate between different underlying issues. Not not every neuropsych is successful in doing so. Feel free to share providers you recommend against that failed to.acvhieve what you expected them to achieve.
If your kid is so mildly affected they don’t even need an IEP then I guess you’re having a totally different conversation. And if neuropsych testing were free we wouldn’t be here.
Also you absolutely don’t have a lock on correct information. It’s not confusing to give people information about different types of intervention and testing.
The person who is hating on neuropsych evals (I think it’s you) keeps insisting there are downsides besides cost, but then it always comes back to cost.
Cost is a very real consideration, and these evaluations are not cheap. But there are few other downsides perhaps inconvenience or not really enjoying the test.
I am not PP, but you are 100% wrong with your statement that, other than cost, there is never any downside to doing neuropsych evaluation.
If you are the person who made this claim, then you should know that your insistence on this statement spurred a chain reaction of negative comments.
I cannot speak for other posters who argued with you, but, personally I am not against neuropsych evaluations. However, from my own experience I can confidently state that they can be a wrong choice and not just because of the cost.
In the previous thread I have suggested that people should share what made their evaluation successful in order to help others. Our evaluation would have gone better if I had more info beforehand. I have a couple of categories that we could use as a starting point if you are genuinely interested in helping others. Making broad statements how there can never be a downside is wrong.
Also, would you mind sharing whether you are a parent, a provider, or both?
Anonymous wrote:New poster and I say this every time, our neuropsychs have been massive massive wastes of money and time. The $15 k we spent on them should indeed be in a trust for our kid who was helped not a bit by them. It is a child and need specific issue no doubt. Like they all are.