Anonymous wrote:This is one of the stupidest requirements I’ve ever heard of. The universities that have large graduate populations typically have professional schools that in no way detract from the undergrad experience and may in fact offer opportunities that would not otherwise be available.

One hundred percent this.
In fact it is a key factor for pre-meds to be at an institution with an affiliated medical school on or close to campus. It creates a much easier path to getting the clinical hours needed during the semester.

Anonymous wrote:I think this is a very limiting parameter. You’re basically excluding every college that has a medical or law school. And those programs are always very separate from anyone’s undergrad experience.

THIS. Penn has med, law, dental and vet. None of those interact with undergrads at all. they are not in the same research labs and they do not live in campus housing(nor do the masters or phD).

Having graduate students who are conducting research (stem and humanites) with professors that teach undergraduate courses where there is a culture of undergraduate research prioritized on campus is the key. Additionally, roles for undergraduate learning assistants working directly with professors is key. They are paid jobs and they are excellent for the resume for phD, MD, law. Undergrads do meaningful research in these institutions, they are not lab techs. These universities provide funding and encourage undergraduate research and TA/LA roles. Professors do the teaching and run office hours, undergrad TAs help review the material in their own office hours. It creates collaboration on campus among undergrads, and it is an excellent way for freshmen and sophomores to have upperclass mentors to ask about internships, careers, etc.

Harvard, Penn, Princeton, Yale, Brown, Dartmouth all have this, and have 5-10k undergrads with predominantly small classes. Columbia may too we do not have any family or friends who attend or teach there, though they do have much larger masters cohorts than the others, though that may not impact undergrads much. Other top schools that match the research and TA/LA opportunities for undergrads and fall within the 5-10k range are:

Stanford, Chicago, Northwestern, Duke, Vanderbilt, WashU, Rice, CMU.

Don't sleep on MIT which is perhaps the best of all at cultivating the undergrad research and teaching experience, just out of the OP's stated range with 4500 undergrads.

Anonymous wrote:William & Mary

+1

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Anonymous wrote:Case Western, Emory, Rice, Tufts and Wash. U. all meet those conditions.

All the ones in bold do meet both requirements.

But WashU does not. It's not majority undergraduate, although it's mid-size.

That’s incorrect.

It now has about 8,000 undergrads and about 8,000 grad students:

https://washu.edu/about-washu/university-facts/

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Anonymous wrote:This is one of the stupidest requirements I’ve ever heard of. The universities that have large graduate populations typically have professional schools that in no way detract from the undergrad experience and may in fact offer opportunities that would not otherwise be available.

While I wouldn’t put it so harshly, I tend to agree. I went to a large school with tons of grad students and had limited interaction with them. Two of the ones I did interact with were PhD students teaching my foreign language classes and they were both great. And the existence of those grad students kept a lot of programs running that otherwise wouldn’t be available.

Agree
Also, OP - top 50 schools are rarely going to include targets, regardless of stats, due to low acceptance rates (yes regardless of stats). I guess one thought is you could see if there is a list out there as there is for everything, which says “best for emphasis on undergraduate teaching”. I believe Princeton is known for this but it’s an impossible admit.

Anonymous wrote:Richmond. It has a small graduate school.

Richmond is a good school but too small for OPs parameters as undergrad enrollment is only slightly above 3,000 students. It is not a medium sized college

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Anonymous wrote:What’s her reason for wanting some grad students around, but not too many?

Yeah what does this mean? Grad students don’t have that much interaction with undergraduates, nor do they desire to do so. Does she just like having older students around?

Prob don't want professors primarily focused on and competing for research opps with grad students. When an institution is majority undergrad, profs are more likely to engage/give research opps to undergrads too.

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Anonymous wrote:What’s her reason for wanting some grad students around, but not too many?

Yeah what does this mean? Grad students don’t have that much interaction with undergraduates, nor do they desire to do so. Does she just like having older students around?

She is looking for a Mrs degree, preferably from a grad student

Anonymous wrote:What’s her reason for wanting some grad students around, but not too many?

Yeah what does this mean? Grad students don’t have that much interaction with undergraduates, nor do they desire to do so. Does she just like having older students around?

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Anonymous wrote:Case Western, Emory, Rice, Tufts and Wash. U. all meet those conditions.

All the ones in bold do meet both requirements.

But WashU does not. It's not majority undergraduate, although it's mid-size.

Wrong. WashU is majority undergrad. UG 7,337 and G 6,467
https://registrar.washu.edu/student-data/current-enrollment-graduation-data/

Rochester

Tulane and William & Mary

Anonymous wrote:You can add Yale

No you can’t. It’s majority grad students.

Boston College

Anonymous wrote:Case Western, Emory, Rice, Tufts and Wash. U. all meet those conditions.

All the ones in bold do meet both requirements.

But WashU does not. It's not majority undergraduate, although it's mid-size.