Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DS was deferred for engineering. 12 APs, all honors available if AP wasn't offered. One B. Test optional. 4 year varsity starter with regional awards, high ranked club team all 4 years. Volunteer hours. Spanish IV, but did not take anything Junior year due to schedule conflicts. Took Calc BC as a junior than ran out of math and took AP Statistics senior year. In STEM program at school. Got into VT, which was his first choice, so didn't opt in to be reconsidered after being deferred.
Congrats to your DS for getting into VT.
What was the rationale for going test optional? I would think for engineering it would be harder admit without test scores -- i.e., the admissions officer(s) would really like to see how the student does on the SAT or ACT, especially for math.
My family may be going through this process next year, which is one reason I am asking.
He had a good score, but with UVA’s 25 percentile being 1410, didn’t seem worth the effort to get it up that high. Took advantage of test optional since his score didn’t help his application. Since he got into his top choice was a good strategy. If he really wanted to go to UVA maybe, maybe not. Unfortunately colleges don’t tell you why you didn’t get in.
If he didn’t even get a 1420, he didn’t have a “good score.”
We will probably have to agree to disagree on what is a good score. A 1400 is 93rd percentile. I would consider that great. With test optional you really have to have great to amazing to be worth it to submit.
I think most on DCUM would agree that a 1400 is not an objectively good score on the SAT. It is fine, but not “good.” lol
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DS was deferred for engineering. 12 APs, all honors available if AP wasn't offered. One B. Test optional. 4 year varsity starter with regional awards, high ranked club team all 4 years. Volunteer hours. Spanish IV, but did not take anything Junior year due to schedule conflicts. Took Calc BC as a junior than ran out of math and took AP Statistics senior year. In STEM program at school. Got into VT, which was his first choice, so didn't opt in to be reconsidered after being deferred.
Congrats to your DS for getting into VT.
What was the rationale for going test optional? I would think for engineering it would be harder admit without test scores -- i.e., the admissions officer(s) would really like to see how the student does on the SAT or ACT, especially for math.
My family may be going through this process next year, which is one reason I am asking.
He had a good score, but with UVA’s 25 percentile being 1410, didn’t seem worth the effort to get it up that high. Took advantage of test optional since his score didn’t help his application. Since he got into his top choice was a good strategy. If he really wanted to go to UVA maybe, maybe not. Unfortunately colleges don’t tell you why you didn’t get in.
If he didn’t even get a 1420, he didn’t have a “good score.”
We will probably have to agree to disagree on what is a good score. A 1400 is 93rd percentile. I would consider that great. With test optional you really have to have great to amazing to be worth it to submit.
I think most on DCUM would agree that a 1400 is not an objectively good score on the SAT. It is fine, but not “good.” lol
Eat me. It's the 93rd to 95th percentile.
Now we know you are a teen. A higher score would have helped you get into UVA. That is a fact. 1400 is good for JMU and VT, but it isn’t good enough for UVA unless you have a hook of some sort. FYI, percentiles don’t matter. Those are calculated using all scorers, which includes kids that are required to take the SAT by their state or school district in order to graduate. So kids in remedial classes take it and score really low.
UVA enrolled 3,961 freshman
Only 45% submitted an SAT score
Only 14% submitted an ACT score
Approximately 51% submitted ANY score
Of those that did, only 450 scored above 1410 on the SAT,
About 2,500 UVA freshman have an SAT or ACT equivalent below 1400. Or roughly 70% of UVA's freshman class.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DS was deferred for engineering. 12 APs, all honors available if AP wasn't offered. One B. Test optional. 4 year varsity starter with regional awards, high ranked club team all 4 years. Volunteer hours. Spanish IV, but did not take anything Junior year due to schedule conflicts. Took Calc BC as a junior than ran out of math and took AP Statistics senior year. In STEM program at school. Got into VT, which was his first choice, so didn't opt in to be reconsidered after being deferred.
Congrats to your DS for getting into VT.
What was the rationale for going test optional? I would think for engineering it would be harder admit without test scores -- i.e., the admissions officer(s) would really like to see how the student does on the SAT or ACT, especially for math.
My family may be going through this process next year, which is one reason I am asking.
He had a good score, but with UVA’s 25 percentile being 1410, didn’t seem worth the effort to get it up that high. Took advantage of test optional since his score didn’t help his application. Since he got into his top choice was a good strategy. If he really wanted to go to UVA maybe, maybe not. Unfortunately colleges don’t tell you why you didn’t get in.
If he didn’t even get a 1420, he didn’t have a “good score.”
We will probably have to agree to disagree on what is a good score. A 1400 is 93rd percentile. I would consider that great. With test optional you really have to have great to amazing to be worth it to submit.
I think most on DCUM would agree that a 1400 is not an objectively good score on the SAT. It is fine, but not “good.” lol
Eat me. It's the 93rd to 95th percentile.
Now we know you are a teen. A higher score would have helped you get into UVA. That is a fact. 1400 is good for JMU and VT, but it isn’t good enough for UVA unless you have a hook of some sort. FYI, percentiles don’t matter. Those are calculated using all scorers, which includes kids that are required to take the SAT by their state or school district in order to graduate. So kids in remedial classes take it and score really low.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DS was deferred for engineering. 12 APs, all honors available if AP wasn't offered. One B. Test optional. 4 year varsity starter with regional awards, high ranked club team all 4 years. Volunteer hours. Spanish IV, but did not take anything Junior year due to schedule conflicts. Took Calc BC as a junior than ran out of math and took AP Statistics senior year. In STEM program at school. Got into VT, which was his first choice, so didn't opt in to be reconsidered after being deferred.
Congrats to your DS for getting into VT.
What was the rationale for going test optional? I would think for engineering it would be harder admit without test scores -- i.e., the admissions officer(s) would really like to see how the student does on the SAT or ACT, especially for math.
My family may be going through this process next year, which is one reason I am asking.
He had a good score, but with UVA’s 25 percentile being 1410, didn’t seem worth the effort to get it up that high. Took advantage of test optional since his score didn’t help his application. Since he got into his top choice was a good strategy. If he really wanted to go to UVA maybe, maybe not. Unfortunately colleges don’t tell you why you didn’t get in.
If he didn’t even get a 1420, he didn’t have a “good score.”
We will probably have to agree to disagree on what is a good score. A 1400 is 93rd percentile. I would consider that great. With test optional you really have to have great to amazing to be worth it to submit.
I think most on DCUM would agree that a 1400 is not an objectively good score on the SAT. It is fine, but not “good.” lol
Most people here are aimed at T20 or T10 LAC. Minimum is 1500, 1550 can be 'good'.
NP. Man, you people are insufferable. And I don’t think you know what “objectively” means. Objectively, the score is greater than 95% of test takers. Most people on earth would call the top 5% “good.” Now, is it good enough to into UVA? That is a separate question.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DS was deferred for engineering. 12 APs, all honors available if AP wasn't offered. One B. Test optional. 4 year varsity starter with regional awards, high ranked club team all 4 years. Volunteer hours. Spanish IV, but did not take anything Junior year due to schedule conflicts. Took Calc BC as a junior than ran out of math and took AP Statistics senior year. In STEM program at school. Got into VT, which was his first choice, so didn't opt in to be reconsidered after being deferred.
Congrats to your DS for getting into VT.
What was the rationale for going test optional? I would think for engineering it would be harder admit without test scores -- i.e., the admissions officer(s) would really like to see how the student does on the SAT or ACT, especially for math.
My family may be going through this process next year, which is one reason I am asking.
He had a good score, but with UVA’s 25 percentile being 1410, didn’t seem worth the effort to get it up that high. Took advantage of test optional since his score didn’t help his application. Since he got into his top choice was a good strategy. If he really wanted to go to UVA maybe, maybe not. Unfortunately colleges don’t tell you why you didn’t get in.
If he didn’t even get a 1420, he didn’t have a “good score.”
We will probably have to agree to disagree on what is a good score. A 1400 is 93rd percentile. I would consider that great. With test optional you really have to have great to amazing to be worth it to submit.
I think most on DCUM would agree that a 1400 is not an objectively good score on the SAT. It is fine, but not “good.” lol
Most people here are aimed at T20 or T10 LAC. Minimum is 1500, 1550 can be 'good'.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DS was deferred for engineering. 12 APs, all honors available if AP wasn't offered. One B. Test optional. 4 year varsity starter with regional awards, high ranked club team all 4 years. Volunteer hours. Spanish IV, but did not take anything Junior year due to schedule conflicts. Took Calc BC as a junior than ran out of math and took AP Statistics senior year. In STEM program at school. Got into VT, which was his first choice, so didn't opt in to be reconsidered after being deferred.
Congrats to your DS for getting into VT.
What was the rationale for going test optional? I would think for engineering it would be harder admit without test scores -- i.e., the admissions officer(s) would really like to see how the student does on the SAT or ACT, especially for math.
My family may be going through this process next year, which is one reason I am asking.
He had a good score, but with UVA’s 25 percentile being 1410, didn’t seem worth the effort to get it up that high. Took advantage of test optional since his score didn’t help his application. Since he got into his top choice was a good strategy. If he really wanted to go to UVA maybe, maybe not. Unfortunately colleges don’t tell you why you didn’t get in.
If he didn’t even get a 1420, he didn’t have a “good score.”
We will probably have to agree to disagree on what is a good score. A 1400 is 93rd percentile. I would consider that great. With test optional you really have to have great to amazing to be worth it to submit.
I think most on DCUM would agree that a 1400 is not an objectively good score on the SAT. It is fine, but not “good.” lol
Eat me. It's the 93rd to 95th percentile.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DS was deferred for engineering. 12 APs, all honors available if AP wasn't offered. One B. Test optional. 4 year varsity starter with regional awards, high ranked club team all 4 years. Volunteer hours. Spanish IV, but did not take anything Junior year due to schedule conflicts. Took Calc BC as a junior than ran out of math and took AP Statistics senior year. In STEM program at school. Got into VT, which was his first choice, so didn't opt in to be reconsidered after being deferred.
Congrats to your DS for getting into VT.
What was the rationale for going test optional? I would think for engineering it would be harder admit without test scores -- i.e., the admissions officer(s) would really like to see how the student does on the SAT or ACT, especially for math.
My family may be going through this process next year, which is one reason I am asking.
He had a good score, but with UVA’s 25 percentile being 1410, didn’t seem worth the effort to get it up that high. Took advantage of test optional since his score didn’t help his application. Since he got into his top choice was a good strategy. If he really wanted to go to UVA maybe, maybe not. Unfortunately colleges don’t tell you why you didn’t get in.
If he didn’t even get a 1420, he didn’t have a “good score.”
We will probably have to agree to disagree on what is a good score. A 1400 is 93rd percentile. I would consider that great. With test optional you really have to have great to amazing to be worth it to submit.
I think most on DCUM would agree that a 1400 is not an objectively good score on the SAT. It is fine, but not “good.” lol
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DS was deferred for engineering. 12 APs, all honors available if AP wasn't offered. One B. Test optional. 4 year varsity starter with regional awards, high ranked club team all 4 years. Volunteer hours. Spanish IV, but did not take anything Junior year due to schedule conflicts. Took Calc BC as a junior than ran out of math and took AP Statistics senior year. In STEM program at school. Got into VT, which was his first choice, so didn't opt in to be reconsidered after being deferred.
Congrats to your DS for getting into VT.
What was the rationale for going test optional? I would think for engineering it would be harder admit without test scores -- i.e., the admissions officer(s) would really like to see how the student does on the SAT or ACT, especially for math.
My family may be going through this process next year, which is one reason I am asking.
He had a good score, but with UVA’s 25 percentile being 1410, didn’t seem worth the effort to get it up that high. Took advantage of test optional since his score didn’t help his application. Since he got into his top choice was a good strategy. If he really wanted to go to UVA maybe, maybe not. Unfortunately colleges don’t tell you why you didn’t get in.
If he didn’t even get a 1420, he didn’t have a “good score.”
We will probably have to agree to disagree on what is a good score. A 1400 is 93rd percentile. I would consider that great. With test optional you really have to have great to amazing to be worth it to submit.
I think most on DCUM would agree that a 1400 is not an objectively good score on the SAT. It is fine, but not “good.” lol
Eat me. It's the 93rd to 95th percentile.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DS was deferred for engineering. 12 APs, all honors available if AP wasn't offered. One B. Test optional. 4 year varsity starter with regional awards, high ranked club team all 4 years. Volunteer hours. Spanish IV, but did not take anything Junior year due to schedule conflicts. Took Calc BC as a junior than ran out of math and took AP Statistics senior year. In STEM program at school. Got into VT, which was his first choice, so didn't opt in to be reconsidered after being deferred.
Congrats to your DS for getting into VT.
What was the rationale for going test optional? I would think for engineering it would be harder admit without test scores -- i.e., the admissions officer(s) would really like to see how the student does on the SAT or ACT, especially for math.
My family may be going through this process next year, which is one reason I am asking.
He had a good score, but with UVA’s 25 percentile being 1410, didn’t seem worth the effort to get it up that high. Took advantage of test optional since his score didn’t help his application. Since he got into his top choice was a good strategy. If he really wanted to go to UVA maybe, maybe not. Unfortunately colleges don’t tell you why you didn’t get in.
If he didn’t even get a 1420, he didn’t have a “good score.”
We will probably have to agree to disagree on what is a good score. A 1400 is 93rd percentile. I would consider that great. With test optional you really have to have great to amazing to be worth it to submit.
I think most on DCUM would agree that a 1400 is not an objectively good score on the SAT. It is fine, but not “good.” lol
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My DC told me this summary from what they know: at their NOVA public school about 30 kids are attending. The non-STEM kids all were great but not the best students but were heavily involved in student government or something school related EC. All were varsity athletes and most applied ED. For the STEM and engineering kids--they were the very top students who also got in to top privates or top engineering schools, etc, but many chose instate for a variety of reasons.
This is just laughable. Your DC is a stalker!
Not “laughable” - you apparently have no idea how students compare notes today.
Your student maybe.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DS was deferred for engineering. 12 APs, all honors available if AP wasn't offered. One B. Test optional. 4 year varsity starter with regional awards, high ranked club team all 4 years. Volunteer hours. Spanish IV, but did not take anything Junior year due to schedule conflicts. Took Calc BC as a junior than ran out of math and took AP Statistics senior year. In STEM program at school. Got into VT, which was his first choice, so didn't opt in to be reconsidered after being deferred.
Congrats to your DS for getting into VT.
What was the rationale for going test optional? I would think for engineering it would be harder admit without test scores -- i.e., the admissions officer(s) would really like to see how the student does on the SAT or ACT, especially for math.
My family may be going through this process next year, which is one reason I am asking.
He had a good score, but with UVA’s 25 percentile being 1410, didn’t seem worth the effort to get it up that high. Took advantage of test optional since his score didn’t help his application. Since he got into his top choice was a good strategy. If he really wanted to go to UVA maybe, maybe not. Unfortunately colleges don’t tell you why you didn’t get in.
If he didn’t even get a 1420, he didn’t have a “good score.”
We will probably have to agree to disagree on what is a good score. A 1400 is 93rd percentile. I would consider that great. With test optional you really have to have great to amazing to be worth it to submit.
I think most on DCUM would agree that a 1400 is not an objectively good score on the SAT. It is fine, but not “good.” lol
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DS was deferred for engineering. 12 APs, all honors available if AP wasn't offered. One B. Test optional. 4 year varsity starter with regional awards, high ranked club team all 4 years. Volunteer hours. Spanish IV, but did not take anything Junior year due to schedule conflicts. Took Calc BC as a junior than ran out of math and took AP Statistics senior year. In STEM program at school. Got into VT, which was his first choice, so didn't opt in to be reconsidered after being deferred.
Congrats to your DS for getting into VT.
What was the rationale for going test optional? I would think for engineering it would be harder admit without test scores -- i.e., the admissions officer(s) would really like to see how the student does on the SAT or ACT, especially for math.
My family may be going through this process next year, which is one reason I am asking.
He had a good score, but with UVA’s 25 percentile being 1410, didn’t seem worth the effort to get it up that high. Took advantage of test optional since his score didn’t help his application. Since he got into his top choice was a good strategy. If he really wanted to go to UVA maybe, maybe not. Unfortunately colleges don’t tell you why you didn’t get in.
If he didn’t even get a 1420, he didn’t have a “good score.”
We will probably have to agree to disagree on what is a good score. A 1400 is 93rd percentile. I would consider that great. With test optional you really have to have great to amazing to be worth it to submit.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DS was deferred for engineering. 12 APs, all honors available if AP wasn't offered. One B. Test optional. 4 year varsity starter with regional awards, high ranked club team all 4 years. Volunteer hours. Spanish IV, but did not take anything Junior year due to schedule conflicts. Took Calc BC as a junior than ran out of math and took AP Statistics senior year. In STEM program at school. Got into VT, which was his first choice, so didn't opt in to be reconsidered after being deferred.
Congrats to your DS for getting into VT.
What was the rationale for going test optional? I would think for engineering it would be harder admit without test scores -- i.e., the admissions officer(s) would really like to see how the student does on the SAT or ACT, especially for math.
My family may be going through this process next year, which is one reason I am asking.
He had a good score, but with UVA’s 25 percentile being 1410, didn’t seem worth the effort to get it up that high. Took advantage of test optional since his score didn’t help his application. Since he got into his top choice was a good strategy. If he really wanted to go to UVA maybe, maybe not. Unfortunately colleges don’t tell you why you didn’t get in.
If he didn’t even get a 1420, he didn’t have a “good score.”