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Anonymous wrote:Wow. Only 13 kids stayed for 5th grade at Brent. Anyone pretending the current 4th/5th grade combo has not been a failure is crazy. What is that principal thinking?

a huge number of the rising 5th graders got into BASIS.

21, to be precise. Wow.

Yu Ying sent 10 to BASIS. All other schools n<10.

Also, Brent is in a renovation so kids are being bussed pretty far away (maybe Columbia Heights?) for a couple of years. That may have led to an even bigger number of kids who jumped ship.

They lost a significant number of kids at every grade level, which is different from previous years. Their overall enrollment is down this year, certainly in large part to the renovation.

Numbers don't lie. Some certainly attributable to renovation but JOW also in swing space this year.

Brent: 13 of 66 stayed for 5th 19.6%
Maury: 67 of 92 stayed for 5th 72.8%
JOW: 42 of 60 stayed for 5th 70%
Tyler: 55 of 72 stayed for 5th 76.4%
Amidon: 47 of 65 stayed for 5th 72.3%
Watkins: 75 of 98 stayed for 5th 76.5%
Payne: 36 of 48 stayed for 5th 75%
Ludlow: 48 of 77 stayed for 5th 62.3%

These numbers are wrong per SY24-25 audited enrollment for 4th grade.

4th to 5th numbers for Jefferson feeders SY24-25 to SY25-26:

Amidon-Bowen: 47 of 54 (82%)
Brent: 13 of 60 (22%)
Chisholm: 55 of 65 (85%)
Van Ness: 35 of 50 (70%)

4th to 5th numbers for Eastern feeders with most comparable demographics SY24-25 to SY25-26:

Ludlow-Taylor: 48 of 65 (74%)
Maury: 67 of 89 (75%)

Actual 4th to 5th numbers for Brent in recent years:

SY22-23 to SY23-24: 25 of 59 (42%)
SY23-24 to SY24-25: 24 of 63 (38%)

You can't mix and match data my friend. Not how this works. The Pathways data includes a student count (click on the grade). What you've done is mix and match. Not an acceptable way to run data or do comparisons.

DCUM is filled with know it alls who don't actually know what they know. Never change.

Sorry I didn't notice this brand new field? The data note explicitly says pathways uses audited enrollment but it looks like that's not actually true. Also doesn't match enrollment data on DC Report Card.

You think comparing Brent to other schools refutes the claim that this year is an outlier for Brent. You didn't even bother looking at Brent historically. But I'm the one who doesn't know how to do comparisons.

Where did you get the idea that this was my point. I was posting same year data for Hill area ES.

But no reason we can't look at those #s for 2023-24 to 2024-25. 2025-26 in parenthesis). Seems like while not as bad, Brent still has lowest retention rate on Hill.

Brent: 24 of 55 stayed for 5th 43.6% (19.6%)
Maury:42 of 83 stayed for 5th 50.6% (72.8%)
JOW: 43 of 55 stayed for 5th 78.1% (70%)
Tyler: 56 of 71 stayed for 5th 78.8% (76.4%)
Amidon: 23 of 41 stayed for 5th 56.1% (72.3%)
Watkins: 69 of 87 stayed for 5th 79.3% (76.5%)
Payne: 43 of 55 stayed for 5th 78.2% (75%)
Ludlow: 36 of 57 stayed for 5th 63.1 (62.3%)

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. Only 13 kids stayed for 5th grade at Brent. Anyone pretending the current 4th/5th grade combo has not been a failure is crazy. What is that principal thinking?

a huge number of the rising 5th graders got into BASIS.

21, to be precise. Wow.

Yu Ying sent 10 to BASIS. All other schools n<10.

Also, Brent is in a renovation so kids are being bussed pretty far away (maybe Columbia Heights?) for a couple of years. That may have led to an even bigger number of kids who jumped ship.

They lost a significant number of kids at every grade level, which is different from previous years. Their overall enrollment is down this year, certainly in large part to the renovation.

Numbers don't lie. Some certainly attributable to renovation but JOW also in swing space this year.

Brent: 13 of 66 stayed for 5th 19.6%
Maury: 67 of 92 stayed for 5th 72.8%
JOW: 42 of 60 stayed for 5th 70%
Tyler: 55 of 72 stayed for 5th 76.4%
Amidon: 47 of 65 stayed for 5th 72.3%
Watkins: 75 of 98 stayed for 5th 76.5%
Payne: 36 of 48 stayed for 5th 75%
Ludlow: 48 of 77 stayed for 5th 62.3%

These numbers are wrong per SY24-25 audited enrollment for 4th grade.

4th to 5th numbers for Jefferson feeders SY24-25 to SY25-26:

Amidon-Bowen: 47 of 54 (82%)
Brent: 13 of 60 (22%)
Chisholm: 55 of 65 (85%)
Van Ness: 35 of 50 (70%)

4th to 5th numbers for Eastern feeders with most comparable demographics SY24-25 to SY25-26:

Ludlow-Taylor: 48 of 65 (74%)
Maury: 67 of 89 (75%)

Actual 4th to 5th numbers for Brent in recent years:

SY22-23 to SY23-24: 25 of 59 (42%)
SY23-24 to SY24-25: 24 of 63 (38%)

You can't mix and match data my friend. Not how this works. The Pathways data includes a student count (click on the grade). What you've done is mix and match. Not an acceptable way to run data or do comparisons.

DCUM is filled with know it alls who don't actually know what they know. Never change.

Sorry I didn't notice this brand new field? The data note explicitly says pathways uses audited enrollment but it looks like that's not actually true. Also doesn't match enrollment data on DC Report Card.

You think comparing Brent to other schools refutes the claim that this year is an outlier for Brent. You didn't even bother looking at Brent historically. But I'm the one who doesn't know how to do comparisons.

Where did you get the idea that this was my point. I was posting same year data for Hill area ES.

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Anonymous wrote:Almost all Brent families end up at elite NW private schools. Respect.

Yep or move to the burbs. They don’t settle because they have options and money.

The NW privates love Brent families. Almost guaranteed admits.

Basis…it is pointless to resist.

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Anonymous wrote:It looks like this data doesnt specifically account for students leaving for private schools? If not, what is that data noted as in the dataset?

It accounts for students who are "Not in Audit". That necessarily includes those who went private. In total there were <10 who were not in audit. What more are you asking for? How the heck would DC schools know with any certainty where kids enrolled if it wasn't at a DC school? How does your question even make sense?

I was simply asking how to interpret that specfic set of data..such attitude..

Anonymous wrote:Almost all Brent families end up at elite NW private schools. Respect.

Yep or move to the burbs. They don’t settle because they have options and money.

Almost all Brent families end up at elite NW private schools. Respect.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. Only 13 kids stayed for 5th grade at Brent. Anyone pretending the current 4th/5th grade combo has not been a failure is crazy. What is that principal thinking?

a huge number of the rising 5th graders got into BASIS.

21, to be precise. Wow.

Yu Ying sent 10 to BASIS. All other schools n<10.

Also, Brent is in a renovation so kids are being bussed pretty far away (maybe Columbia Heights?) for a couple of years. That may have led to an even bigger number of kids who jumped ship.

They lost a significant number of kids at every grade level, which is different from previous years. Their overall enrollment is down this year, certainly in large part to the renovation.

Numbers don't lie. Some certainly attributable to renovation but JOW also in swing space this year.

Brent: 13 of 66 stayed for 5th 19.6%
Maury: 67 of 92 stayed for 5th 72.8%
JOW: 42 of 60 stayed for 5th 70%
Tyler: 55 of 72 stayed for 5th 76.4%
Amidon: 47 of 65 stayed for 5th 72.3%
Watkins: 75 of 98 stayed for 5th 76.5%
Payne: 36 of 48 stayed for 5th 75%
Ludlow: 48 of 77 stayed for 5th 62.3%

These numbers are wrong per SY24-25 audited enrollment for 4th grade.

4th to 5th numbers for Jefferson feeders SY24-25 to SY25-26:

Amidon-Bowen: 47 of 54 (82%)
Brent: 13 of 60 (22%)
Chisholm: 55 of 65 (85%)
Van Ness: 35 of 50 (70%)

4th to 5th numbers for Eastern feeders with most comparable demographics SY24-25 to SY25-26:

Ludlow-Taylor: 48 of 65 (74%)
Maury: 67 of 89 (75%)

Actual 4th to 5th numbers for Brent in recent years:

SY22-23 to SY23-24: 25 of 59 (42%)
SY23-24 to SY24-25: 24 of 63 (38%)

You can't mix and match data my friend. Not how this works. The Pathways data includes a student count (click on the grade). What you've done is mix and match. Not an acceptable way to run data or do comparisons.

DCUM is filled with know it alls who don't actually know what they know. Never change.

Sorry I didn't notice this brand new field? The data note explicitly says pathways uses audited enrollment but it looks like that's not actually true. Also doesn't match enrollment data on DC Report Card.

You think comparing Brent to other schools refutes the claim that this year is an outlier for Brent. You didn't even bother looking at Brent historically. But I'm the one who doesn't know how to do comparisons.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. Only 13 kids stayed for 5th grade at Brent. Anyone pretending the current 4th/5th grade combo has not been a failure is crazy. What is that principal thinking?

a huge number of the rising 5th graders got into BASIS.

21, to be precise. Wow.

Yu Ying sent 10 to BASIS. All other schools n<10.

Also, Brent is in a renovation so kids are being bussed pretty far away (maybe Columbia Heights?) for a couple of years. That may have led to an even bigger number of kids who jumped ship.

They lost a significant number of kids at every grade level, which is different from previous years. Their overall enrollment is down this year, certainly in large part to the renovation.

Numbers don't lie. Some certainly attributable to renovation but JOW also in swing space this year.

Brent: 13 of 66 stayed for 5th 19.6%
Maury: 67 of 92 stayed for 5th 72.8%
JOW: 42 of 60 stayed for 5th 70%
Tyler: 55 of 72 stayed for 5th 76.4%
Amidon: 47 of 65 stayed for 5th 72.3%
Watkins: 75 of 98 stayed for 5th 76.5%
Payne: 36 of 48 stayed for 5th 75%
Ludlow: 48 of 77 stayed for 5th 62.3%

These numbers are wrong per SY24-25 audited enrollment for 4th grade.

4th to 5th numbers for Jefferson feeders SY24-25 to SY25-26:

Amidon-Bowen: 47 of 54 (82%)
Brent: 13 of 60 (22%)
Chisholm: 55 of 65 (85%)
Van Ness: 35 of 50 (70%)

4th to 5th numbers for Eastern feeders with most comparable demographics SY24-25 to SY25-26:

Ludlow-Taylor: 48 of 65 (74%)
Maury: 67 of 89 (75%)

Actual 4th to 5th numbers for Brent in recent years:

SY22-23 to SY23-24: 25 of 59 (42%)
SY23-24 to SY24-25: 24 of 63 (38%)

You can't mix and match data my friend. Not how this works. The Pathways data includes a student count (click on the grade). What you've done is mix and match. Not an acceptable way to run data or do comparisons.

DCUM is filled with know it alls who don't actually know what they know. Never change.

Anonymous wrote:It looks like this data doesnt specifically account for students leaving for private schools? If not, what is that data noted as in the dataset?

It accounts for students who are "Not in Audit". That necessarily includes those who went private. In total there were <10 who were not in audit. What more are you asking for? How the heck would DC schools know with any certainty where kids enrolled if it wasn't at a DC school? How does your question even make sense?

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. Only 13 kids stayed for 5th grade at Brent. Anyone pretending the current 4th/5th grade combo has not been a failure is crazy. What is that principal thinking?

a huge number of the rising 5th graders got into BASIS.

21, to be precise. Wow.

Yu Ying sent 10 to BASIS. All other schools n<10.

Also, Brent is in a renovation so kids are being bussed pretty far away (maybe Columbia Heights?) for a couple of years. That may have led to an even bigger number of kids who jumped ship.

They lost a significant number of kids at every grade level, which is different from previous years. Their overall enrollment is down this year, certainly in large part to the renovation.

Numbers don't lie. Some certainly attributable to renovation but JOW also in swing space this year.

Brent: 13 of 66 stayed for 5th 19.6%
Maury: 67 of 92 stayed for 5th 72.8%
JOW: 42 of 60 stayed for 5th 70%
Tyler: 55 of 72 stayed for 5th 76.4%
Amidon: 47 of 65 stayed for 5th 72.3%
Watkins: 75 of 98 stayed for 5th 76.5%
Payne: 36 of 48 stayed for 5th 75%
Ludlow: 48 of 77 stayed for 5th 62.3%

That LT number is way off. That grade was tiny. Definitely didn’t have over 25 kids in a class… more like 18. Where did you get the denominators from?

From the Edscape pathways data. Are you suggesting you know more than DC does? According to the data there were 77 kids in 4th grade in 2024-5. Of those, 48 stayed for 5th grade at Ludlow. Just as I said i my post.

Maybe, just maybe, you are confused?

Anonymous wrote:It looks like this data doesnt specifically account for students leaving for private schools? If not, what is that data noted as in the dataset?

You can see them in EdScape but it doesn't separate kids who went private versus moving out of state.

It looks like this data doesnt specifically account for students leaving for private schools? If not, what is that data noted as in the dataset?

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. Only 13 kids stayed for 5th grade at Brent. Anyone pretending the current 4th/5th grade combo has not been a failure is crazy. What is that principal thinking?

a huge number of the rising 5th graders got into BASIS.

21, to be precise. Wow.

Yu Ying sent 10 to BASIS. All other schools n<10.

Also, Brent is in a renovation so kids are being bussed pretty far away (maybe Columbia Heights?) for a couple of years. That may have led to an even bigger number of kids who jumped ship.

They lost a significant number of kids at every grade level, which is different from previous years. Their overall enrollment is down this year, certainly in large part to the renovation.

Numbers don't lie. Some certainly attributable to renovation but JOW also in swing space this year.

Brent: 13 of 66 stayed for 5th 19.6%
Maury: 67 of 92 stayed for 5th 72.8%
JOW: 42 of 60 stayed for 5th 70%
Tyler: 55 of 72 stayed for 5th 76.4%
Amidon: 47 of 65 stayed for 5th 72.3%
Watkins: 75 of 98 stayed for 5th 76.5%
Payne: 36 of 48 stayed for 5th 75%
Ludlow: 48 of 77 stayed for 5th 62.3%

These numbers are wrong per SY24-25 audited enrollment for 4th grade.

4th to 5th numbers for Jefferson feeders SY24-25 to SY25-26:

Amidon-Bowen: 47 of 54 (82%)
Brent: 13 of 60 (22%)
Chisholm: 55 of 65 (85%)
Van Ness: 35 of 50 (70%)

4th to 5th numbers for Eastern feeders with most comparable demographics SY24-25 to SY25-26:

Ludlow-Taylor: 48 of 65 (74%)
Maury: 67 of 89 (75%)

Actual 4th to 5th numbers for Brent in recent years:

SY22-23 to SY23-24: 25 of 59 (42%)
SY23-24 to SY24-25: 24 of 63 (38%)

Really shows you what an outlier Brent is even in “good” years. But 13 5th graders? Wow.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. Only 13 kids stayed for 5th grade at Brent. Anyone pretending the current 4th/5th grade combo has not been a failure is crazy. What is that principal thinking?

a huge number of the rising 5th graders got into BASIS.

21, to be precise. Wow.

Yu Ying sent 10 to BASIS. All other schools n<10.

Also, Brent is in a renovation so kids are being bussed pretty far away (maybe Columbia Heights?) for a couple of years. That may have led to an even bigger number of kids who jumped ship.

They lost a significant number of kids at every grade level, which is different from previous years. Their overall enrollment is down this year, certainly in large part to the renovation.

Numbers don't lie. Some certainly attributable to renovation but JOW also in swing space this year.

Brent: 13 of 66 stayed for 5th 19.6%
Maury: 67 of 92 stayed for 5th 72.8%
JOW: 42 of 60 stayed for 5th 70%
Tyler: 55 of 72 stayed for 5th 76.4%
Amidon: 47 of 65 stayed for 5th 72.3%
Watkins: 75 of 98 stayed for 5th 76.5%
Payne: 36 of 48 stayed for 5th 75%
Ludlow: 48 of 77 stayed for 5th 62.3%

These numbers are wrong per SY24-25 audited enrollment for 4th grade.

4th to 5th numbers for Jefferson feeders SY24-25 to SY25-26:

Amidon-Bowen: 47 of 54 (82%)
Brent: 13 of 60 (22%)
Chisholm: 55 of 65 (85%)
Van Ness: 35 of 50 (70%)

4th to 5th numbers for Eastern feeders with most comparable demographics SY24-25 to SY25-26:

Ludlow-Taylor: 48 of 65 (74%)
Maury: 67 of 89 (75%)

Actual 4th to 5th numbers for Brent in recent years:

SY22-23 to SY23-24: 25 of 59 (42%)
SY23-24 to SY24-25: 24 of 63 (38%)