Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Some of these things are just ripoffs, which is why I have trouble doing them.
Like the prices are dramatically inflated so strivers can feel superior.
As my income has increased substantially, I still struggled with feeling ripped off. For instance, as a celebration, my wife and I went to the Four Seasons for 90 minute massages. It was nearly $1,000 with tip and just felt like a waste. Like it was nice, but it wasn’t thaaaaat nice.
I mean ... that's not where you go for massages.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Some of these things are just ripoffs, which is why I have trouble doing them.
Like the prices are dramatically inflated so strivers can feel superior.
As my income has increased substantially, I still struggled with feeling ripped off. For instance, as a celebration, my wife and I went to the Four Seasons for 90 minute massages. It was nearly $1,000 with tip and just felt like a waste. Like it was nice, but it wasn’t thaaaaat nice.
I relate to this.
I think there is this massive gap in terms of service and experiences between middle class and very rich, and it sucks. Like a middle class person would go get a massage at Massage Envy using a coupon. And it wouldn't be amazing but it wouldn't be terrible. They might think "hmm, this could be nicer" and they might even wonder if it was worth the $150 or $200 they spent for a special experience. They might wonder if being able to go to a nicer spa would make for a much better experience.
But then you go to the nicer spas and you spend double or triple or quadruple the amount and is it twice or three times or four times as nice? No. It's like... a little nicer. That's it.
I think you don't get to a truly luxurious experience where you feel truly, completely pampered until you are so rich you can get the personal masseuse who comes to $20,000/night suite or something. But that's truly just for the really rich people, not for UMC or even slightly wealthier people.
Which has led me, a regular UMC person, to decide that for the most part I will just do the much less expensive and less "luxurious" version of most things, save the money for retirement so I can stop working a little sooner or feel a bit more financially secure, and accept that I'm never going to do certain things (fly in lie-flat first class seats overseas, stay at a White Lotus-level resort, eat at certain Michelin starred restaurants, get my hair cut by the sort of person who cuts the hair of celebs and socialites, etc.). It's fine. I still have more than like 99.9% of the world population, I will get over it.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Some of these things are just ripoffs, which is why I have trouble doing them.
Like the prices are dramatically inflated so strivers can feel superior.
This.
Especially true for experiences "designed" for families and kids. We have done some of these and my kids didn't care at all. They'd be happier at a decent playground or doing taco night at our house or something.
A lot of this stuff is designed to look good on social media but not to actually be fun. So you're supposed to go and pose for photos where you look like you are having a lot of fun but in reality you spend most of the time standing in lines to go to the place where you take the photo/video you are supposed to post on social media.
I don't post on social media so this is not worthwhile to me.
I am inherently suspicious of anything that most people find out about via seeing on other people's social media.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Some of these things are just ripoffs, which is why I have trouble doing them.
Like the prices are dramatically inflated so strivers can feel superior.
As my income has increased substantially, I still struggled with feeling ripped off. For instance, as a celebration, my wife and I went to the Four Seasons for 90 minute massages. It was nearly $1,000 with tip and just felt like a waste. Like it was nice, but it wasn’t thaaaaat nice.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Some of these things are just ripoffs, which is why I have trouble doing them.
Like the prices are dramatically inflated so strivers can feel superior.
As my income has increased substantially, I still struggled with feeling ripped off. For instance, as a celebration, my wife and I went to the Four Seasons for 90 minute massages. It was nearly $1,000 with tip and just felt like a waste. Like it was nice, but it wasn’t thaaaaat nice.
Anonymous wrote:Some of these things are just ripoffs, which is why I have trouble doing them.
Like the prices are dramatically inflated so strivers can feel superior.
Anonymous wrote:If your hhi is under 300k, do you sometimes do something like a tea at a beautiful hotel, a round of golf (if you golf, or whatever equivalent) at a local resort, a concert that costs $500/ticket...? I never do any of these things. I was at a gorgeous hotel last week just passing by and saw the tea and it looked like an experience I would enjoy, but I find it very hard spending $250+ on a single event over in one hour or two.
Anonymous wrote:Some of these things are just ripoffs, which is why I have trouble doing them.
Like the prices are dramatically inflated so strivers can feel superior.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My HHI is now a lot higher than that (but that’s a very recent phenomenon), and the high teas and really expensive massages still feel just stupid expensive to me for the amount of money, time spent, and enjoyment. But, if it’s something that brings you a ton of joy, it may well be worth it. I personally do really enjoy certain really expensive fine dining and don’t feel bad about it (and didn’t at my lower HHI either).
afternoon teas, not high teas. High tea is working-class dinner.
Anonymous wrote:I’m super frugal, like cut my own hair, wear drugstore makeup if at all, nondesigner purse I use for years, but I did go to the Little Inn at Washington to see the hype of a three Michelin star restaurant. It was fun, whimsical and charming. I wouldn’t go again but I’m glad I did.
Anonymous wrote:My HHI is under $100K, and I went to a fancy tea once but someone else paid. I would never pay $500 for a concert ticket. There was a year when I survived on $19k and I kept telling myself things I wanted were "for other people". And even though I'm doing much better financially now, I still believe that. Regular people don't fly on private planes. Regular people don't have weekly cleaning ladies. Regular people don't use Waymo. Or regularly get boba or whatever else. I have a cousin who joined her county's ski club and went on skip trips this winter. She's always posting pictures of her eating /drinking out with friends. Bars, wineries, restaurants. I can't afford that. That's for other people, not me.