Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This county is so full of whiners, it’s insane. We are always moving due to military positions and I’ve never seen a more pathetic school community. No one thinks or talks about their school district,this much,anywhere else. This is a special breed of humans in the worst way possible. Glad to be done in a few months and back to where sane people exist.

Having worked in a couple of local school systems and trading notes with others that have as well, I think the consensus is that you tend to hear more from families in the counties with a wealthier population. You hardly hear from families in counties that have more of a working class population.

You might call it entitlement in some ways. But I also see it as families being more invested in their kids' education. Just look at the population in Montgomery County. A good number are/were Federal workers who worked in NIH or HHS, so are researchers, have doctorates, etc. So their standards for education are higher. I can say in multiple school systems some of the biggest time sinks are some of these Federal workers who apparently are researchers and have nothing better to do but create websites and newsletters with their analysis on why the local school system(not just MCPS and not just one person) is horrible and we have to talk with them on how they came about their numbers and analysis.

I don't like the way MCPS and Montgomery County is going. But I don't think it's a horrible school system and students should still do okay with it as long as families don't settle for the status quo. So it is perfectly okay to complain or advocate for their students.

The bolded is where I am. It's not a bad school system, it's better than the ones I grew up in for sure. It's also got a lot of problems. Some of those problems are problems with most school systems in 2026 (too much edtech for one example), some are specific to MCPS (bad leadership at the top), but there are problems. As a parent, I speak out about the problems I see.

And yeah, I'm well educated. I have expectations of the public school system to be more than "fine." I don't have hugely high expectations (I don't care much about access to the very top math classes), but I do have expectations. I get suspicious though, when someone treats expectations of more than mediocre as a problem.

Anonymous wrote:This county is so full of whiners, it’s insane. We are always moving due to military positions and I’ve never seen a more pathetic school community. No one thinks or talks about their school district,this much,anywhere else. This is a special breed of humans in the worst way possible. Glad to be done in a few months and back to where sane people exist.

Having worked in a couple of local school systems and trading notes with others that have as well, I think the consensus is that you tend to hear more from families in the counties with a wealthier population. You hardly hear from families in counties that have more of a working class population.

You might call it entitlement in some ways. But I also see it as families being more invested in their kids' education. Just look at the population in Montgomery County. A good number are/were Federal workers who worked in NIH or HHS, so are researchers, have doctorates, etc. So their standards for education are higher. I can say in multiple school systems some of the biggest time sinks are some of these Federal workers who apparently are researchers and have nothing better to do but create websites and newsletters with their analysis on why the local school system(not just MCPS and not just one person) is horrible and we have to talk with them on how they came about their numbers and analysis.

I don't like the way MCPS and Montgomery County is going. But I don't think it's a horrible school system and students should still do okay with it as long as families don't settle for the status quo. So it is perfectly okay to complain or advocate for their students.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I agree that the size of the county is a major contributing factor to why people are so dissatisfied. There’s so much diversity of backgrounds and viewpoints and it’s extremely difficult (impossible, really) to come up with a solution that meets the needs of everyone. The leadership not being great just makes things worse. We also have an extremely high striver/entitled population in the close to DC suburbs which also cranks up the complaints. Friends in New England suburbs have had such a different experience for their children in public school and I regret getting stuck (work) in this area. Ready to move on…

But most people are happy with MCPS IRL.
The loud minority on DCUM (about 10 of them) doesn't represent the vast majority of MCPS families.

Most of the parents I know IRL have complaints. They're usually not extreme, but especially after the abundance of snow days, calendar shuffles, etc. this past year, the mood I see is mixed rather than positive.

+1

Many people I know IRL have shared similar sentiments about MCPS as what I see on DCUM. They aren't as angry as many posters here but they don't like TT and are tired of all the constant drama and messes created by CO (not just by TT but including him). Our school principal tries to be diplomatic but often visibly struggles to explain things they have to do based on CO mandates, and isn't going to lie for them.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I agree that the size of the county is a major contributing factor to why people are so dissatisfied. There’s so much diversity of backgrounds and viewpoints and it’s extremely difficult (impossible, really) to come up with a solution that meets the needs of everyone. The leadership not being great just makes things worse. We also have an extremely high striver/entitled population in the close to DC suburbs which also cranks up the complaints. Friends in New England suburbs have had such a different experience for their children in public school and I regret getting stuck (work) in this area. Ready to move on…

But most people are happy with MCPS IRL.
The loud minority on DCUM (about 10 of them) doesn't represent the vast majority of MCPS families.

Most of the parents I know IRL have complaints. They're usually not extreme, but especially after the abundance of snow days, calendar shuffles, etc. this past year, the mood I see is mixed rather than positive.

Everybody has a complaint, but research shows most parents are happy with MCPS.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree that the size of the county is a major contributing factor to why people are so dissatisfied. There’s so much diversity of backgrounds and viewpoints and it’s extremely difficult (impossible, really) to come up with a solution that meets the needs of everyone. The leadership not being great just makes things worse. We also have an extremely high striver/entitled population in the close to DC suburbs which also cranks up the complaints. Friends in New England suburbs have had such a different experience for their children in public school and I regret getting stuck (work) in this area. Ready to move on…

But most people are happy with MCPS IRL.
The loud minority on DCUM (about 10 of them) doesn't represent the vast majority of MCPS families.

Most of the parents I know IRL have complaints. They're usually not extreme, but especially after the abundance of snow days, calendar shuffles, etc. this past year, the mood I see is mixed rather than positive.

Anonymous wrote:I agree that the size of the county is a major contributing factor to why people are so dissatisfied. There’s so much diversity of backgrounds and viewpoints and it’s extremely difficult (impossible, really) to come up with a solution that meets the needs of everyone. The leadership not being great just makes things worse. We also have an extremely high striver/entitled population in the close to DC suburbs which also cranks up the complaints. Friends in New England suburbs have had such a different experience for their children in public school and I regret getting stuck (work) in this area. Ready to move on…

But most people are happy with MCPS IRL.
The loud minority on DCUM (about 10 of them) doesn't represent the vast majority of MCPS families.

Anonymous wrote:This county is so full of whiners, it’s insane. We are always moving due to military positions and I’ve never seen a more pathetic school community. No one thinks or talks about their school district,this much,anywhere else. This is a special breed of humans in the worst way possible. Glad to be done in a few months and back to where sane people exist.

+1000

Anonymous wrote:I'm so envious of those of you that are done. My youngest is a second grader. I can't believe I have another decade of this.

You either don't like your kid or you're a troll.
Which one is it?

Anonymous wrote:Most school districts are much smaller and more local. That also allows for more accountability + sense of community (though the people have a big role in that too...). I have no idea why MCPS is so huge but that's part of the problem.

I hope you're finding some welcoming and humble ppl here. They do exist.

That said I wouldn't mind moving...

MCPS can have transparency and accountability. It was one thing Taylor promised... gues he didn't follow through with that promise.

Anonymous wrote:This county is so full of whiners, it’s insane. We are always moving due to military positions and I’ve never seen a more pathetic school community. No one thinks or talks about their school district,this much,anywhere else. This is a special breed of humans in the worst way possible. Glad to be done in a few months and back to where sane people exist.

Good luck. Many places you will go will not have good school systems. We pay a lot in taxes, so yes, we expect more especially given how much MCPS gets per student.

Anonymous wrote:This county is so full of whiners, it’s insane. We are always moving due to military positions and I’ve never seen a more pathetic school community. No one thinks or talks about their school district,this much,anywhere else. This is a special breed of humans in the worst way possible. Glad to be done in a few months and back to where sane people exist.

Cos in military, the first thing you learn is to obey the order and follow the rule. For community that's dominantly highly educated with careers in law, medicine and science, the thumb of the rule is critical thinking and to challenge unjustified claims. Unfortunately MCPS tends to do a poor job in disguising their real intentions with loud disclaims that are full of logical flaws.

Anonymous wrote:This county is so full of whiners, it’s insane. We are always moving due to military positions and I’ve never seen a more pathetic school community. No one thinks or talks about their school district,this much,anywhere else. This is a special breed of humans in the worst way possible. Glad to be done in a few months and back to where sane people exist.

Do their school districts constantly blast them with dishonest essays about how great they are?

I agree that the size of the county is a major contributing factor to why people are so dissatisfied. There’s so much diversity of backgrounds and viewpoints and it’s extremely difficult (impossible, really) to come up with a solution that meets the needs of everyone. The leadership not being great just makes things worse. We also have an extremely high striver/entitled population in the close to DC suburbs which also cranks up the complaints. Friends in New England suburbs have had such a different experience for their children in public school and I regret getting stuck (work) in this area. Ready to move on…

Most school districts are much smaller and more local. That also allows for more accountability + sense of community (though the people have a big role in that too...). I have no idea why MCPS is so huge but that's part of the problem.

I hope you're finding some welcoming and humble ppl here. They do exist.

That said I wouldn't mind moving...

This county is so full of whiners, it’s insane. We are always moving due to military positions and I’ve never seen a more pathetic school community. No one thinks or talks about their school district,this much,anywhere else. This is a special breed of humans in the worst way possible. Glad to be done in a few months and back to where sane people exist.