Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I guess I don't exist then. I am sure I am not the only person to drive a 20 year old entry-point Japanese sedan while my stock portfolio has ballooned to 20M. I think it depends on what sort of wealth you're talking about: if it comes from salary, and people are surrounded by others with the same salary, that's going to lead to visible signs of wealth. But if they made their money in a more discreet way and do not socialize with others who have that level of wealth (or who like them chose not to display it)... then it leads to driving a dinged up Corolla.
Can you even access that money without major tax implications?
This is a question a poor person would ask.
Why? If you have 20M in a brokerage account and want to buy a car with cash, then you'd have to liquidate some portion, which would trigger a tax event. Sure, you could take out a loan, or do some fancy accounting where you live off of loans instead of ever liquidating anything. But usually the person who has been fortunate to buy stock 30 years ago that is now worth 20M vs old money set up in trusts, they aren't generally doing that.
Why would you not have anything in savings or HYSA?
I have very little money in savings and a HYSA, certainly not enough to buy a 150K SUV. I am nearly 100% invested in stocks, municipal bonds and some treasuries.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I guess I don't exist then. I am sure I am not the only person to drive a 20 year old entry-point Japanese sedan while my stock portfolio has ballooned to 20M. I think it depends on what sort of wealth you're talking about: if it comes from salary, and people are surrounded by others with the same salary, that's going to lead to visible signs of wealth. But if they made their money in a more discreet way and do not socialize with others who have that level of wealth (or who like them chose not to display it)... then it leads to driving a dinged up Corolla.
Can you even access that money without major tax implications?
This is a question a poor person would ask.
Why? If you have 20M in a brokerage account and want to buy a car with cash, then you'd have to liquidate some portion, which would trigger a tax event. Sure, you could take out a loan, or do some fancy accounting where you live off of loans instead of ever liquidating anything. But usually the person who has been fortunate to buy stock 30 years ago that is now worth 20M vs old money set up in trusts, they aren't generally doing that.
Why would you not have anything in savings or HYSA?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I agree. I think DMV is very different than anywhere else in the country. There is a very real “millionaire next door” attitude, dating back to waspy ambitions.
Nearly everywhere else in the country, affluent Americans are driving nice cars.
+1 DC money is not showy and is more likely to be expressed in private school tuition and fancy vacations. This is not Miami or LA where people like to show off their expensive sports cars.
lol. Land Rover Bethesda is the top selling Land Rover dealer on the east coast.
That may be, but nowhere else in the country do you have so many affluent people who live below their means. That Land Rover dealer could be doing even better business if Washingtonians cared about cars.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I guess I don't exist then. I am sure I am not the only person to drive a 20 year old entry-point Japanese sedan while my stock portfolio has ballooned to 20M. I think it depends on what sort of wealth you're talking about: if it comes from salary, and people are surrounded by others with the same salary, that's going to lead to visible signs of wealth. But if they made their money in a more discreet way and do not socialize with others who have that level of wealth (or who like them chose not to display it)... then it leads to driving a dinged up Corolla.
Can you even access that money without major tax implications?
This is a question a poor person would ask.
Why? If you have 20M in a brokerage account and want to buy a car with cash, then you'd have to liquidate some portion, which would trigger a tax event. Sure, you could take out a loan, or do some fancy accounting where you live off of loans instead of ever liquidating anything. But usually the person who has been fortunate to buy stock 30 years ago that is now worth 20M vs old money set up in trusts, they aren't generally doing that.
Anonymous wrote:I agree. I think DMV is very different than anywhere else in the country. There is a very real “millionaire next door” attitude, dating back to waspy ambitions.
Nearly everywhere else in the country, affluent Americans are driving nice cars.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I guess I don't exist then. I am sure I am not the only person to drive a 20 year old entry-point Japanese sedan while my stock portfolio has ballooned to 20M. I think it depends on what sort of wealth you're talking about: if it comes from salary, and people are surrounded by others with the same salary, that's going to lead to visible signs of wealth. But if they made their money in a more discreet way and do not socialize with others who have that level of wealth (or who like them chose not to display it)... then it leads to driving a dinged up Corolla.
Can you even access that money without major tax implications?
This is a question a poor person would ask.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I agree. I think DMV is very different than anywhere else in the country. There is a very real “millionaire next door” attitude, dating back to waspy ambitions.
Nearly everywhere else in the country, affluent Americans are driving nice cars.
+1 DC money is not showy and is more likely to be expressed in private school tuition and fancy vacations. This is not Miami or LA where people like to show off their expensive sports cars.
lol. Land Rover Bethesda is the top selling Land Rover dealer on the east coast.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The humble millionaire next door seems like nonsense to me; rich people are not driving 25 year old Volvo station wagons. And everyone with a nice new luxury car obviously isn't broke and overextended. I'm currently in a swank town and every car is a new Range Rover, Porsche crossover, Tesla, or Audi-BMW-Mercedes (they all look alike). The worst car I see are new Chevrolet Tahoes, which are like 80 grand. If that humble old money thing ever existed, it certainly doesn't anymore.
I would kill for a 25 year old Volvo station wagon.
Rich folks can afford anything. But the car manufacturers all produce indistinguishable crap today. If you have a decent vehicle now, there is zero reason to buy something new today. And don't even get me started on the people that choose Range Rovers or Jeeps.
You’re so full of crap. Nobody rich is driving an out of warranty piece of junk with gen 1 airbags that probably don’t even work. Rich value safety and their time.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The humble millionaire next door seems like nonsense to me; rich people are not driving 25 year old Volvo station wagons. And everyone with a nice new luxury car obviously isn't broke and overextended. I'm currently in a swank town and every car is a new Range Rover, Porsche crossover, Tesla, or Audi-BMW-Mercedes (they all look alike). The worst car I see are new Chevrolet Tahoes, which are like 80 grand. If that humble old money thing ever existed, it certainly doesn't anymore.
I would kill for a 25 year old Volvo station wagon.
Rich folks can afford anything. But the car manufacturers all produce indistinguishable crap today. If you have a decent vehicle now, there is zero reason to buy something new today. And don't even get me started on the people that choose Range Rovers or Jeeps.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I agree. I think DMV is very different than anywhere else in the country. There is a very real “millionaire next door” attitude, dating back to waspy ambitions.
Nearly everywhere else in the country, affluent Americans are driving nice cars.
+1 DC money is not showy and is more likely to be expressed in private school tuition and fancy vacations. This is not Miami or LA where people like to show off their expensive sports cars.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I agree. I think DMV is very different than anywhere else in the country. There is a very real “millionaire next door” attitude, dating back to waspy ambitions.
Nearly everywhere else in the country, affluent Americans are driving nice cars.
+1 DC money is not showy and is more likely to be expressed in private school tuition and fancy vacations. This is not Miami or LA where people like to show off their expensive sports cars.
Agree. DC money is very quiet compared to other areas of the country. You won't ever know money here out on the street.