Anonymous wrote:Wake and Emory are pretty similar, especially SAT scores, etc. Everyone puts Duke above the Wake and Emory tier.

You're lying
Wake
1420-1500/32-34

Emory
1480-1540/33-35

Duke
1520-1570/34-35

Duke is a deviation higher than Emory , which is a deviation higher than Wake

Wake and Emory are pretty similar, especially SAT scores, etc. Everyone puts Duke above the Wake and Emory tier.

Anonymous wrote:My son with strong stats got into UVA and William & Mary (in-state) but was waitlisted at Wake Forest. I was surprised tbh.

Aren't UVA and W&M the easier admits here? Applying in-state I mean. UNC is way way easier in-state than Wake (excepting certain counties/schools).

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Anonymous wrote:Emory>Wake>Tulane though I wouldn't fault any kid for breaking that hierarchy as the differences aren't huge (the gap between Emory and Wake is greater than the gap between Wake and Tulane - they are very close). Historically Wake was less appealing to northern kids but that has been changing. Wake and Tulane are probably a bit more social than Emory.

Hard disagree. Wake and Emory historically ranked in the same 20-30 group by US News for most of the last 3 decades and that includes the ten years Emory admitted to fudging its data. They take the same level of kids at our private. Tulane is a very good school but I’d put it a tier down with Miami.

Wake booster? Any this is delusional, this is Wake's first year having an acceptance rate below 20%. Wake doesnt even release their ED stats, add the 36% transfer acceptance rate. Don't make competition where there isnt one

I don't see many people applying to Emory and Wake. Different schools with different vibes. You can claim Emory is better all day (and it may be, I don't know), but there's very little overlap in the fit venn diagram for these two I think.

What are you talking about? I guarantee there is a ton of overlap. Similar sized schools in the southeast with roughly similar academic profiles, both with undergrad business programs and affiliated with good medical centers. I am sure there is a ton of overlap. Wake has better sports. Emory is in a bigger city. Not huge differences. When we visited Wake we met several families who literally were going straight from there to see Emory (potentially with a stop at Davidson, though that is a significantly smaller school).

I was the previous poster and am a Wake alumnus. I just never run across Emory people, ever. I don't know anyone that applied to Emory. I don't remember anyone mentioning Emory during my time at Wake. As such, I assume not many people are looking seriously at both schools. I know Duke and Carolina alums, Princeton alums, Yale alums, UVA alums, Georgetown, Alabama, Texas, the list goes on. I know Wake people that applied to all of the forgoing schools (regardless of the odds). I don't know if I've ever met someone who went to Emory or talked about applying there. And the cultures of the schools seem pretty different. Hence my conclusion.

I do know one person who went to law school at Emory and he was incredibly odd. But n=1 and also it's the law school, not undergrad. I'm sure there are odd people at Wake too.

Regardless, I'm not sure this back and forth adds value to the convo. The thread is about people's experience with Wake this year, not shared interest in Wake and Emory.

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Anonymous wrote:Emory>Wake>Tulane though I wouldn't fault any kid for breaking that hierarchy as the differences aren't huge (the gap between Emory and Wake is greater than the gap between Wake and Tulane - they are very close). Historically Wake was less appealing to northern kids but that has been changing. Wake and Tulane are probably a bit more social than Emory.

Hard disagree. Wake and Emory historically ranked in the same 20-30 group by US News for most of the last 3 decades and that includes the ten years Emory admitted to fudging its data. They take the same level of kids at our private. Tulane is a very good school but I’d put it a tier down with Miami.

Wake booster? Any this is delusional, this is Wake's first year having an acceptance rate below 20%. Wake doesnt even release their ED stats, add the 36% transfer acceptance rate. Don't make competition where there isnt one

I don't see many people applying to Emory and Wake. Different schools with different vibes. You can claim Emory is better all day (and it may be, I don't know), but there's very little overlap in the fit venn diagram for these two I think.

What are you talking about? I guarantee there is a ton of overlap. Similar sized schools in the southeast with roughly similar academic profiles, both with undergrad business programs and affiliated with good medical centers. I am sure there is a ton of overlap. Wake has better sports. Emory is in a bigger city. Not huge differences. When we visited Wake we met several families who literally were going straight from there to see Emory (potentially with a stop at Davidson, though that is a significantly smaller school).

I’m no Emory booster but Emory has a higher median SAT/ACT and is a much more diverse + healthcare focused place than Wake. Sports are also big at Wake but most Emory students couldn’t care less. I would expect some overlap but not a ton.

For what’s its worth, Wake wins cross admits 60 to 40 although Parchment doesn’t have enough data to reach the 95 percent confidence interval. Since ED offers a significant advantage at both schools, kids often don’t apply to both. Since both admit a significant chunk of class test optional and Wake has been test optional for over a decade, I don’t think differences in test scores are meaningful.

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Anonymous wrote:Emory>Wake>Tulane though I wouldn't fault any kid for breaking that hierarchy as the differences aren't huge (the gap between Emory and Wake is greater than the gap between Wake and Tulane - they are very close). Historically Wake was less appealing to northern kids but that has been changing. Wake and Tulane are probably a bit more social than Emory.

Hard disagree. Wake and Emory historically ranked in the same 20-30 group by US News for most of the last 3 decades and that includes the ten years Emory admitted to fudging its data. They take the same level of kids at our private. Tulane is a very good school but I’d put it a tier down with Miami.

Wake booster? Any this is delusional, this is Wake's first year having an acceptance rate below 20%. Wake doesnt even release their ED stats, add the 36% transfer acceptance rate. Don't make competition where there isnt one

I don't see many people applying to Emory and Wake. Different schools with different vibes. You can claim Emory is better all day (and it may be, I don't know), but there's very little overlap in the fit venn diagram for these two I think.

What are you talking about? I guarantee there is a ton of overlap. Similar sized schools in the southeast with roughly similar academic profiles, both with undergrad business programs and affiliated with good medical centers. I am sure there is a ton of overlap. Wake has better sports. Emory is in a bigger city. Not huge differences. When we visited Wake we met several families who literally were going straight from there to see Emory (potentially with a stop at Davidson, though that is a significantly smaller school).

I’m no Emory booster but Emory has a higher median SAT/ACT and is a much more diverse + healthcare focused place than Wake. Sports are also big at Wake but most Emory students couldn’t care less. I would expect some overlap but not a ton.

Nope. Plenty of pre-meds at Wake (it has a very good med school - not as good as Emory but still highly competitive). And I know lots of Emory kids who like sports - they have their own teams (some of which are quite good - I think men's basketball was national runner-up this year) plus they are in a city with tons of sports so they can easily get their fill.

Not disagreeing that Emory is a bit more competitive and diverse, but it isn't a huge difference.

It is not a perfect overlap, but it would shock me if there were not a lot of common applicants between the two.

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Anonymous wrote:Emory>Wake>Tulane though I wouldn't fault any kid for breaking that hierarchy as the differences aren't huge (the gap between Emory and Wake is greater than the gap between Wake and Tulane - they are very close). Historically Wake was less appealing to northern kids but that has been changing. Wake and Tulane are probably a bit more social than Emory.

Hard disagree. Wake and Emory historically ranked in the same 20-30 group by US News for most of the last 3 decades and that includes the ten years Emory admitted to fudging its data. They take the same level of kids at our private. Tulane is a very good school but I’d put it a tier down with Miami.

Wake booster? Any this is delusional, this is Wake's first year having an acceptance rate below 20%. Wake doesnt even release their ED stats, add the 36% transfer acceptance rate. Don't make competition where there isnt one

I don't see many people applying to Emory and Wake. Different schools with different vibes. You can claim Emory is better all day (and it may be, I don't know), but there's very little overlap in the fit venn diagram for these two I think.

What are you talking about? I guarantee there is a ton of overlap. Similar sized schools in the southeast with roughly similar academic profiles, both with undergrad business programs and affiliated with good medical centers. I am sure there is a ton of overlap. Wake has better sports. Emory is in a bigger city. Not huge differences. When we visited Wake we met several families who literally were going straight from there to see Emory (potentially with a stop at Davidson, though that is a significantly smaller school).

I’m no Emory booster but Emory has a higher median SAT/ACT and is a much more diverse + healthcare focused place than Wake. Sports are also big at Wake but most Emory students couldn’t care less. I would expect some overlap but not a ton.

Definitely not a reach in our private. Most who get in are ED and test optional. There is definitely some yield protection happening with students very high scores being denied. So yes, it seems they like demonstrated interest. I would call it a Target for most. My kid didn't apply, but if she did, they might have yield protected her as well because she has no interest in attending.

Anonymous wrote:DD goes to a top midwestern public. Wake and Lehigh were her safeties. Reaches were Duke, Stanford, Ivys etc.

Got in RD to both Wake and Lehigh with merit money. Had top rigor (12 APs, including BC junior and Physics C senior) and 1550+. Showed lots of DI, including visiting both and writing super targeted essays. (Did not want to risk yield protection.)

Wake and Lehigh are great schools. We consider them to be equals and would have been happy to see her at either one. But she chose one of her reaches instead.

Where did she choose?

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Anonymous wrote:Emory>Wake>Tulane though I wouldn't fault any kid for breaking that hierarchy as the differences aren't huge (the gap between Emory and Wake is greater than the gap between Wake and Tulane - they are very close). Historically Wake was less appealing to northern kids but that has been changing. Wake and Tulane are probably a bit more social than Emory.

Hard disagree. Wake and Emory historically ranked in the same 20-30 group by US News for most of the last 3 decades and that includes the ten years Emory admitted to fudging its data. They take the same level of kids at our private. Tulane is a very good school but I’d put it a tier down with Miami.

Wake booster? Any this is delusional, this is Wake's first year having an acceptance rate below 20%. Wake doesnt even release their ED stats, add the 36% transfer acceptance rate. Don't make competition where there isnt one

I don't see many people applying to Emory and Wake. Different schools with different vibes. You can claim Emory is better all day (and it may be, I don't know), but there's very little overlap in the fit venn diagram for these two I think.

What are you talking about? I guarantee there is a ton of overlap. Similar sized schools in the southeast with roughly similar academic profiles, both with undergrad business programs and affiliated with good medical centers. I am sure there is a ton of overlap. Wake has better sports. Emory is in a bigger city. Not huge differences. When we visited Wake we met several families who literally were going straight from there to see Emory (potentially with a stop at Davidson, though that is a significantly smaller school).

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Unless ACC sports is a big deal to your kid (as it was to mine) there’s tons of overlap between Wake and Emory.

DD goes to a top midwestern public. Wake and Lehigh were her safeties. Reaches were Duke, Stanford, Ivys etc.

Got in RD to both Wake and Lehigh with merit money. Had top rigor (12 APs, including BC junior and Physics C senior) and 1550+. Showed lots of DI, including visiting both and writing super targeted essays. (Did not want to risk yield protection.)

Wake and Lehigh are great schools. We consider them to be equals and would have been happy to see her at either one. But she chose one of her reaches instead.

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Anonymous wrote:Emory>Wake>Tulane though I wouldn't fault any kid for breaking that hierarchy as the differences aren't huge (the gap between Emory and Wake is greater than the gap between Wake and Tulane - they are very close). Historically Wake was less appealing to northern kids but that has been changing. Wake and Tulane are probably a bit more social than Emory.

Hard disagree. Wake and Emory historically ranked in the same 20-30 group by US News for most of the last 3 decades and that includes the ten years Emory admitted to fudging its data. They take the same level of kids at our private. Tulane is a very good school but I’d put it a tier down with Miami.

Wake booster? Any this is delusional, this is Wake's first year having an acceptance rate below 20%. Wake doesnt even release their ED stats, add the 36% transfer acceptance rate. Don't make competition where there isnt one

I don't see many people applying to Emory and Wake. Different schools with different vibes. You can claim Emory is better all day (and it may be, I don't know), but there's very little overlap in the fit venn diagram for these two I think.

What are you talking about? I guarantee there is a ton of overlap. Similar sized schools in the southeast with roughly similar academic profiles, both with undergrad business programs and affiliated with good medical centers. I am sure there is a ton of overlap. Wake has better sports. Emory is in a bigger city. Not huge differences. When we visited Wake we met several families who literally were going straight from there to see Emory (potentially with a stop at Davidson, though that is a significantly smaller school).

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Anonymous wrote:Emory>Wake>Tulane though I wouldn't fault any kid for breaking that hierarchy as the differences aren't huge (the gap between Emory and Wake is greater than the gap between Wake and Tulane - they are very close). Historically Wake was less appealing to northern kids but that has been changing. Wake and Tulane are probably a bit more social than Emory.

Hard disagree. Wake and Emory historically ranked in the same 20-30 group by US News for most of the last 3 decades and that includes the ten years Emory admitted to fudging its data. They take the same level of kids at our private. Tulane is a very good school but I’d put it a tier down with Miami.

Wake booster? Any this is delusional, this is Wake's first year having an acceptance rate below 20%. Wake doesnt even release their ED stats, add the 36% transfer acceptance rate. Don't make competition where there isnt one

I don't see many people applying to Emory and Wake. Different schools with different vibes. You can claim Emory is better all day (and it may be, I don't know), but there's very little overlap in the fit venn diagram for these two I think.

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Anonymous wrote:Emory>Wake>Tulane though I wouldn't fault any kid for breaking that hierarchy as the differences aren't huge (the gap between Emory and Wake is greater than the gap between Wake and Tulane - they are very close). Historically Wake was less appealing to northern kids but that has been changing. Wake and Tulane are probably a bit more social than Emory.

Hard disagree. Wake and Emory historically ranked in the same 20-30 group by US News for most of the last 3 decades and that includes the ten years Emory admitted to fudging its data. They take the same level of kids at our private. Tulane is a very good school but I’d put it a tier down with Miami.

Wake booster? Any this is delusional, this is Wake's first year having an acceptance rate below 20%. Wake doesnt even release their ED stats, add the 36% transfer acceptance rate. Don't make competition where there isnt one

Anonymous wrote:Our counselor told us it is a high reach and the next "Emory, Duke etc." and we thought based on the ranks it was more attainable. Curious about experience applying. A was surprised a few kids who applied from our public school did not get in but maybe the waitlist will move?

It is not Emory, and will never be Duke.