Anonymous
Post 04/19/2026 21:37     Subject: Re:Who appeals to INDEPENDENTS for president right now?

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Anonymous wrote:I am an independent and what someone who a) acts like an adult, b) is an actual fiscal conservative and cares about bringing the federal budget back into balance, and c) cares about ending government spying on American citizens.

I won't find anyone like this, sadly.


hmm, these are your top issues? seems like a strange list.


DP. You're proving the point. What's moderate and important to YOU is the only thing that matters, apparently. When other people list *their* issues, you immediately shoot them down. In short, you're doing what you've done for years, since before Trump I. You're insinuation your own issues onto other people and then blaming them when your chosen candidate doesn't win. We all have different priorities and one day maybe you'll grasp that.
Anonymous
Post 04/19/2026 21:34     Subject: Who appeals to INDEPENDENTS for president right now?

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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:I consider myself a moderate and will only be voting for a moderate. Period. Sadly, no one comes to mind.


What moderates aren’t taken by aipac?


I’m not a one-issue voter, unlike you.


It’s not one issue. It’s a litmus test for being bought and sold, pro war, anti American, and an all around liar


It's not my issue. Stop trying to convince everyone else to vote according to your obsession.


Dp
Times up
Anonymous
Post 04/19/2026 21:34     Subject: Who appeals to INDEPENDENTS for president right now?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I consider myself a moderate and will only be voting for a moderate. Period. Sadly, no one comes to mind.


What moderates aren’t taken by aipac?


DP. AIPAC isn’t one of my top 20 issues.


Well if the economy isn't important for you, then that makes sense. Otherwise most people realize that AIPAC is a contributing reason for endless wars in the Middle East including Iraq.


That’s one take, I suppose.

Pls tell me who you support, so I can be sure to pick someone else.


+100
Anonymous
Post 04/19/2026 21:33     Subject: Who appeals to INDEPENDENTS for president right now?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I consider myself a moderate and will only be voting for a moderate. Period. Sadly, no one comes to mind.

If you can't find a single moderate in either party, I think the issue is you, not American politics. You'd have to define what you really mean by "moderate".


Any person that I throw out will be immediately critiqued by you as "not moderate enough" on whatever issue is important to YOU. For instance, I would vote for Adam Kinzinger or Marco Rubio. I would love for a (younger) Joe Manchin or Susan Collins to run. But I'm sure you'll pipe up with your objections, which I'm not at all interested in.
Anonymous
Post 04/19/2026 21:30     Subject: Who appeals to INDEPENDENTS for president right now?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I consider myself a moderate and will only be voting for a moderate. Period. Sadly, no one comes to mind.


What moderates aren’t taken by aipac?


I’m not a one-issue voter, unlike you.


It’s not one issue. It’s a litmus test for being bought and sold, pro war, anti American, and an all around liar


It's not my issue. Stop trying to convince everyone else to vote according to your obsession.


No one is trying to convince you. But you're absolutely wrong to state that being against AIPAC is somehow a one-issue item.
Anonymous
Post 04/19/2026 21:28     Subject: Who appeals to INDEPENDENTS for president right now?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I consider myself a moderate and will only be voting for a moderate. Period. Sadly, no one comes to mind.


What moderates aren’t taken by aipac?


DP. AIPAC isn’t one of my top 20 issues.


What are your top 10?

Mine top issue is tribalism. I want someone who puts people over party. I’m tired over people sayinf we can’t do or talk about x that is right for people but will help the other team then we must oppose it.

If the candidate votes almost exclusively along party lines (as most do), then they are dubious and need to be watched closely. And I don’t want the hear but Trump. Many of the people in office pre-dated trump or at least Trump 2.0. I want people who are honestly working for us not a party.


I’m op and pp. Are there any politicians these days who have lunch or dinner or otherwise socialize with someone from the opposite party any more? If I recall correctly, Fetterman got roasted for doing this (can’t remember if there was more to the story).

For me, I want to see more people in Congress doing this. Maybe they do but it’s kept quiet these days. We should be working together not apart.


DP. I thought I read somewhere that Katie Britt and John Fetterman socialized together with their families. They've also sponsored some bills together. I think relationships like that are great.
Anonymous
Post 04/19/2026 21:24     Subject: Who appeals to INDEPENDENTS for president right now?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I consider myself a moderate and will only be voting for a moderate. Period. Sadly, no one comes to mind.


What moderates aren’t taken by aipac?


I’m not a one-issue voter, unlike you.


It’s not one issue. It’s a litmus test for being bought and sold, pro war, anti American, and an all around liar


It's not my issue. Stop trying to convince everyone else to vote according to your obsession.
Anonymous
Post 04/19/2026 20:55     Subject: Who appeals to INDEPENDENTS for president right now?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m an independent. I want to see a legit change candidate — but one whose idea of change involves a laser focus on what helps ordinary people.


I know people will flip but what you describe already exists and has proven themselves capable and moral... AOC.


I’m PP — independent who has voted red and blue in the past. I would vote AOC over any MAGA. I might be a rare bird, though.
Anonymous
Post 04/19/2026 19:11     Subject: Who appeals to INDEPENDENTS for president right now?

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Anonymous wrote:I think a Bashear/Buttigeig ticket would be great. And successful.


Do you think they have enough teeth to hold the line against extreme / fringe issues? They need to be assertive and fearless, so they don’t get swept in the partisan mire.


and what are the extreme/fringe issues according to you?


Staring wars, building monuments to one, any that are not about bread and butler, shelter.
Anonymous
Post 04/19/2026 19:04     Subject: Re:Who appeals to INDEPENDENTS for president right now?

Anonymous wrote:I am an independent and what someone who a) acts like an adult, b) is an actual fiscal conservative and cares about bringing the federal budget back into balance, and c) cares about ending government spying on American citizens.

I won't find anyone like this, sadly.


hmm, these are your top issues? seems like a strange list.
Anonymous
Post 04/19/2026 19:02     Subject: Re:Who appeals to INDEPENDENTS for president right now?

Anonymous wrote:I am an independent and what someone who a) acts like an adult, b) is an actual fiscal conservative and cares about bringing the federal budget back into balance, and c) cares about ending government spying on American citizens.

I won't find anyone like this, sadly.


Well, we know which party will get us into more debt.
Anonymous
Post 04/19/2026 18:59     Subject: Re:Who appeals to INDEPENDENTS for president right now?

I am an independent and what someone who a) acts like an adult, b) is an actual fiscal conservative and cares about bringing the federal budget back into balance, and c) cares about ending government spying on American citizens.

I won't find anyone like this, sadly.
Anonymous
Post 04/19/2026 18:45     Subject: Who appeals to INDEPENDENTS for president right now?

Anonymous wrote:Fetterman has proven to be level headed and in touch with how the majority of Americans feel on key issues.


LOLZ

Anonymous
Post 04/19/2026 18:34     Subject: Who appeals to INDEPENDENTS for president right now?

Fetterman has proven to be level headed and in touch with how the majority of Americans feel on key issues.
Anonymous
Post 04/19/2026 18:31     Subject: Who appeals to INDEPENDENTS for president right now?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think a Bashear/Buttigeig ticket would be great. And successful.


Do you think they have enough teeth to hold the line against extreme / fringe issues? They need to be assertive and fearless, so they don’t get swept in the partisan mire.


and what are the extreme/fringe issues according to you?