Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just let teachers (and anyone for that matter) be comfortable.

Shorts and flip flops ok?

This was what several of my very well-respected professors in graduate school wore to teach. I don't see why a K-12 teacher can't wear it.

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Best teacher I ever had was an AP teacher in high school. He came in torn-up jeans and wrinkly shirts all the time.

I learned more from him than any other teacher. He taught me world history, but he also taught me how to live up to seriously high expectations and how to overcome hurdles.

I don’t see how a dress shirt and tie would have improved his instruction.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just let teachers (and anyone for that matter) be comfortable.

Shorts and flip flops ok?

This was what several of my very well-respected professors in graduate school wore to teach. I don't see why a K-12 teacher can't wear it.

The MCPS HS teachers I work with wear shorts when it's hot (the men) and leggings (the women). Sometimes baseball caps. Are leggings as bad as yoga pants? Most wear jeans and sneakers and college t-shirts/sweatshirts. "Dressed up" for men is a polo shirt with khakis. That's rare. "Dressed up" for the female teachers is a dress.

I feel like at ES, though, the teachers are more dressed up.

At the preK level - they should be able to wear whatever they want!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:but there's something off to me that we ask the kids to buy uniform skirts and jumpers that are $40 a piece, plus the white shirts, the sweaters, the specific shoes. The boys wear a coat and a tie when they are older. The kids sit on the floor and play on the playground. And the teachers wear gym clothes?

Poor, poor kids

The kids manage, so I think the adults can manage.

and agree the MCPS dress code is very loose.

Anonymous wrote:but there's something off to me that we ask the kids to buy uniform skirts and jumpers that are $40 a piece, plus the white shirts, the sweaters, the specific shoes. The boys wear a coat and a tie when they are older. The kids sit on the floor and play on the playground. And the teachers wear gym clothes?

Poor, poor kids

Anonymous wrote:Having a dress code is perfectly normal in the workplace. I do not understand why there is so much fuss over it. In MCPS, the dress code states that teachers should dress in a “professionally appropriate manner.”

I know for a fact that the definition of professionally appropriate is BROAD for MCPS. I care about the learning so do not care at all, but I know for a fact that MCPS teachers can and do wear yoga pants, and that subject matter teachers (think algebra) wear basketball shorts and tshirts.

My point is that you are not making the point you think you are making with this example.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Having a dress code is perfectly normal in the workplace. I do not understand why there is so much fuss over it. In MCPS, the dress code states that teachers should dress in a “professionally appropriate manner.”

So why are you fussing that isn't the dress code?

I wish I could go to work with yoga pants but that doesn’t make the cut for dressing in a “professionally appropriate manner”.

But what is your job? Does it involve time on a playground? Does it include children's science experiments? Are there sticky fingers to dodge all day?

Teaching as well. And no, you don’t need yoga pants to do all those things.

Then I refer you to the top of the page.

but there's something off to me that we ask the kids to buy uniform skirts and jumpers that are $40 a piece, plus the white shirts, the sweaters, the specific shoes. The boys wear a coat and a tie when they are older. The kids sit on the floor and play on the playground. And the teachers wear gym clothes?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Having a dress code is perfectly normal in the workplace. I do not understand why there is so much fuss over it. In MCPS, the dress code states that teachers should dress in a “professionally appropriate manner.”

So why are you fussing that isn't the dress code?

I wish I could go to work with yoga pants but that doesn’t make the cut for dressing in a “professionally appropriate manner”.

But what is your job? Does it involve time on a playground? Does it include children's science experiments? Are there sticky fingers to dodge all day?

Teaching as well. And no, you don’t need yoga pants to do all those things.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Having a dress code is perfectly normal in the workplace. I do not understand why there is so much fuss over it. In MCPS, the dress code states that teachers should dress in a “professionally appropriate manner.”

So why are you fussing that isn't the dress code?

I wish I could go to work with yoga pants but that doesn’t make the cut for dressing in a “professionally appropriate manner”.

But what is your job? Does it involve time on a playground? Does it include children's science experiments? Are there sticky fingers to dodge all day?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Having a dress code is perfectly normal in the workplace. I do not understand why there is so much fuss over it. In MCPS, the dress code states that teachers should dress in a “professionally appropriate manner.”

So why are you fussing that isn't the dress code?

I wish I could go to work with yoga pants but that doesn’t make the cut for dressing in a “professionally appropriate manner”.

Anonymous wrote:Having a dress code is perfectly normal in the workplace. I do not understand why there is so much fuss over it. In MCPS, the dress code states that teachers should dress in a “professionally appropriate manner.”

I would argue that what is professionally appropriate for someone who works on Capitol Hill or in a law firm is quite different from what is professionally appropriate for someone who is working in a school. You cannot compare these jobs and say they should dress the same.

Anonymous wrote:Having a dress code is perfectly normal in the workplace. I do not understand why there is so much fuss over it. In MCPS, the dress code states that teachers should dress in a “professionally appropriate manner.”

So why are you fussing that isn't the dress code?

Having a dress code is perfectly normal in the workplace. I do not understand why there is so much fuss over it. In MCPS, the dress code states that teachers should dress in a “professionally appropriate manner.”

The last time this topic came up as a thread, I checked the research on teacher dress and educational outcomes. No correlation whatsoever.

This is all 110% parents projecting their own biases on others and claiming it will be "better" for the their kids somehow.

If it's that important, don't pay to send your kids to a school you don't personally approve of. But don't kid yourself that's a sign of social disintegration. We all have MUCH bigger things to worry about.

FWIW, I teach at a school where I could wear shorts and flip-flops if I chose to. That's not me, so I don't. But I respect having the right to choose. Because I can teach my kids damn well regardless.

That's what REALLY matters.