We will all be paying for this with extra fees. I wonder what they will name it.

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2026/04/15/banks-citizenship-data-collection-customer-accounts.html

“In addition to legal questions, some policy experts and banks have warned about damage to the economy if people are denied access to the banking system and deposit accounts, as well as potentially big increases in administrative costs for banks.

Allowing noncitizens, including undocumented immigrants, to legally open bank accounts using documentation, such as an ITIN, means they can pay taxes and avoid being part of the "unbanked" existing in a purely cash economy. Being unbanked is often associated with less ability to move up the social ladder and contribute to economic growth.

For banks, center-right think tank American Action Forum estimated a citizenship verification requirement could add anywhere from 30 million to 70 million paperwork hours and $2.6 billion–$5.6 billion in costs. "Verifying new accounts is the tip of the iceberg; the lack of details makes it difficult to estimate the costs of verifying existing accountholders," it wrote in a March analysis.”

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand the problem with this. Many, many countries on Earth require citizenship or proof of legal residency to open a bank account. US should do the same.

You all asked to stop illegal immigration, but do it in a humane manner. Well, this is a first step. Make it impossible for illegal immigrants to use our banking system. Tax the crap out of foreign remittances after the 2nd one and if it is more than $5000 at places moneygram, etc. Make it impossible to get drivers licenses and all insurance if you cannot provide proof of legal residency. Make it national law to require proof of legal residency for all landlords.

Once you make it impossible to live and work in the US illegal immigrants will stop coming since it isn’t worth it.

There are some MAGAs out there with ancestors who served in both World Wars and Vietnam. And after decades of not needing to walk around with a birth certificate now they’re OK having to do so? Drivers license is no longer enough even a REAL ID? What else will they need to show birth certificate for next time, besides voting if the SAVE goes through? They are a-ok being asked to “show your papers” for every shit in Shanghai one day?

Once more: if they collect Social Security, they had to provide a birth certificate or other documentation. Why is this so hard for the "educated" on DCUM to understand? Seems to me the educated DCUM responders think everyone else is dumb.

+1

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Anonymous wrote:How does this fall under the purview of the Executive Branch of government, which EOs only apply to?

Trump's EOs are different. They apply to the entire nation. The entire world, really. Also the Moon and Mars while we're at it.

Many of us would still like to see his taxes. Just sayin’, if you’re all worried about illicit money flow.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand the problem with this. Many, many countries on Earth require citizenship or proof of legal residency to open a bank account. US should do the same.

You all asked to stop illegal immigration, but do it in a humane manner. Well, this is a first step. Make it impossible for illegal immigrants to use our banking system. Tax the crap out of foreign remittances after the 2nd one and if it is more than $5000 at places moneygram, etc. Make it impossible to get drivers licenses and all insurance if you cannot provide proof of legal residency. Make it national law to require proof of legal residency for all landlords.

Once you make it impossible to live and work in the US illegal immigrants will stop coming since it isn’t worth it.

There are some MAGAs out there with ancestors who served in both World Wars and Vietnam. And after decades of not needing to walk around with a birth certificate now they’re OK having to do so? Drivers license is no longer enough even a REAL ID? What else will they need to show birth certificate for next time, besides voting if the SAVE goes through? They are a-ok being asked to “show your papers” for every shit in Shanghai one day?

Once more: if they collect Social Security, they had to provide a birth certificate or other documentation. Why is this so hard for the "educated" on DCUM to understand? Seems to me the educated DCUM responders think everyone else is dumb.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand the problem with this. Many, many countries on Earth require citizenship or proof of legal residency to open a bank account. US should do the same.

You all asked to stop illegal immigration, but do it in a humane manner. Well, this is a first step. Make it impossible for illegal immigrants to use our banking system. Tax the crap out of foreign remittances after the 2nd one and if it is more than $5000 at places moneygram, etc. Make it impossible to get drivers licenses and all insurance if you cannot provide proof of legal residency. Make it national law to require proof of legal residency for all landlords.

Once you make it impossible to live and work in the US illegal immigrants will stop coming since it isn’t worth it.

Blah blah blah then make it a law. Enough with the ENDLESS trump EOs to get around the law.

Congress exists to bang interns and trade on insider information. They don’t bother with legislation.

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand the problem with this. Many, many countries on Earth require citizenship or proof of legal residency to open a bank account. US should do the same.

You all asked to stop illegal immigration, but do it in a humane manner. Well, this is a first step. Make it impossible for illegal immigrants to use our banking system. Tax the crap out of foreign remittances after the 2nd one and if it is more than $5000 at places moneygram, etc. Make it impossible to get drivers licenses and all insurance if you cannot provide proof of legal residency. Make it national law to require proof of legal residency for all landlords.

Once you make it impossible to live and work in the US illegal immigrants will stop coming since it isn’t worth it.

Blah blah blah then make it a law. Enough with the ENDLESS trump EOs to get around the law.

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand the problem with this. Many, many countries on Earth require citizenship or proof of legal residency to open a bank account. US should do the same.

You all asked to stop illegal immigration, but do it in a humane manner. Well, this is a first step. Make it impossible for illegal immigrants to use our banking system. Tax the crap out of foreign remittances after the 2nd one and if it is more than $5000 at places moneygram, etc. Make it impossible to get drivers licenses and all insurance if you cannot provide proof of legal residency. Make it national law to require proof of legal residency for all landlords.

Once you make it impossible to live and work in the US illegal immigrants will stop coming since it isn’t worth it.

There are some MAGAs out there with ancestors who served in both World Wars and Vietnam. And after decades of not needing to walk around with a birth certificate now they’re OK having to do so? Drivers license is no longer enough even a REAL ID? What else will they need to show birth certificate for next time, besides voting if the SAVE goes through? They are a-ok being asked to “show your papers” for every shit in Shanghai one day?

I don't understand the problem with this. Many, many countries on Earth require citizenship or proof of legal residency to open a bank account. US should do the same.

You all asked to stop illegal immigration, but do it in a humane manner. Well, this is a first step. Make it impossible for illegal immigrants to use our banking system. Tax the crap out of foreign remittances after the 2nd one and if it is more than $5000 at places moneygram, etc. Make it impossible to get drivers licenses and all insurance if you cannot provide proof of legal residency. Make it national law to require proof of legal residency for all landlords.

Once you make it impossible to live and work in the US illegal immigrants will stop coming since it isn’t worth it.

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Anonymous wrote:How will a small credit union in Nebraska be able to verify an 80 year old birthcertificate from Alabama or understand immigration laws well enough to determine immigration status for foreign citizens? Good luck. A looming banking crisis with wide repercussions (watch what will happen when large numbers of people, including many many citizens, are suddenly cut off from paying their bills).

You really think people in Nebraska are unable to figure this out?

The bank in Nebraska will be fine, the elderly people who are barely making ends meet who use the bank, not so much.

My grandmother never had a birth certificate and never needed one until she was in her 70s. She had to jump through a whole bunch of hoops to get one when she eventually needed one. White ancestors in the US since the 1600s.

Most people did not have to produce all this documentation on a regular basis until after 9-11, and emphasis on having ids to prove who you were all the time, with the exception of driver's licenses, didn't even start until the 1980s.

I remember walking into a DMV is a new state in the 90s, and only needing my old state driver's license and a utility bill for my new place.

If you are going make every rural person over 80 in the US provide a birth certificate or a passport, good luck with that.

1. Your grandmother never worked or collected Social Security? My parents did not have birth certificates (I am a senior citizen.) They had to get documentation in order to collect their Social Security that proved their age. This was long, long before 9/11. In fact, I recall my dad talking about getting his elderly aunt documentation of her birth. This would have been in the 1950s. She was born in the nineteenth century.
2. We just opened a new bank account. And, guess what they wanted? SSN and ID
3. Yes, you were able to get a drivers' license with your old state one because they had reciprocal agreements about proof of identity. The utility bill was to prove residence.
4. It would be the rare rural person over 80 who does not collect Social Security. Documentation of birth is required to collect it.

It amazes me how many people on DCUM think that rural people and old people are uneducated and dumb.
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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How will a small credit union in Nebraska be able to verify an 80 year old birthcertificate from Alabama or understand immigration laws well enough to determine immigration status for foreign citizens? Good luck. A looming banking crisis with wide repercussions (watch what will happen when large numbers of people, including many many citizens, are suddenly cut off from paying their bills).

You really think people in Nebraska are unable to figure this out?

The bank in Nebraska will be fine, the elderly people who are barely making ends meet who use the bank, not so much.

My grandmother never had a birth certificate and never needed one until she was in her 70s. She had to jump through a whole bunch of hoops to get one when she eventually needed one. White ancestors in the US since the 1600s.

Most people did not have to produce all this documentation on a regular basis until after 9-11, and emphasis on having ids to prove who you were all the time, with the exception of driver's licenses, didn't even start until the 1980s.

I remember walking into a DMV is a new state in the 90s, and only needing my old state driver's license and a utility bill for my new place.

If you are going make every rural person over 80 in the US provide a birth certificate or a passport, good luck with that.

But it’s a lot like the new Medicaid paperwork rules. Enough people will not be able to jump through the hoops that it will reduce the number of
Social Security beneficiaries. Who cares if a bunch of elderly or disabled people die of poverty? Right MAGA? Empathy and taking care of the team is for suckers.

Your team? POC and gender confused.

And you could care less about everyone else.

PP here. My team is ALL Americans. Remember of the people, by the people, for the people.
- former Republican

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Anonymous wrote:So what’s going to happen, a citizen who can’t find their birth certificate that’s maybe back at their parents’ house 2000 miles away or worse, lost in a move, will have to scrape together money to prove they are who they are. And maybe they don’t have a passport. And can’t afford one. Then what, access to their own money is shutdown, no car loans, no mortgage, no college loans, etc, all while the criminal Epstein class with money sitting in god knows what offshore funds.

It cost me 17 dollars to get my birth certificate from the state I was born in.

Stop making excuses for the lazy.

Stop making excuses for Trump and his Epstein class bros who have their own corrupt financial system and want to harass and extort the rest of us for their benefit.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How will a small credit union in Nebraska be able to verify an 80 year old birthcertificate from Alabama or understand immigration laws well enough to determine immigration status for foreign citizens? Good luck. A looming banking crisis with wide repercussions (watch what will happen when large numbers of people, including many many citizens, are suddenly cut off from paying their bills).

You really think people in Nebraska are unable to figure this out?

The bank in Nebraska will be fine, the elderly people who are barely making ends meet who use the bank, not so much.

My grandmother never had a birth certificate and never needed one until she was in her 70s. She had to jump through a whole bunch of hoops to get one when she eventually needed one. White ancestors in the US since the 1600s.

Most people did not have to produce all this documentation on a regular basis until after 9-11, and emphasis on having ids to prove who you were all the time, with the exception of driver's licenses, didn't even start until the 1980s.

I remember walking into a DMV is a new state in the 90s, and only needing my old state driver's license and a utility bill for my new place.

If you are going make every rural person over 80 in the US provide a birth certificate or a passport, good luck with that.

But it’s a lot like the new Medicaid paperwork rules. Enough people will not be able to jump through the hoops that it will reduce the number of
Social Security beneficiaries. Who cares if a bunch of elderly or disabled people die of poverty? Right MAGA? Empathy and taking care of the team is for suckers.

Your team? POC and gender confused.

And you could care less about everyone else.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's one thing if they wanted to make this rule for opening new accounts - but they want to apply it to existing account holders. Ridiculous. There have to be millions of people out there who don't have passports and whose current name does not match their birth certificate.

Updating personal information is not that difficult.

Not that difficult FOR YOU. Some of us have disabled and/or elderly family members who this is actually a burden for. And it’s their money

+1
As if the billionaire criminal Epstein class uses the local credit union. This is to fxk with the 99%, not the 1%.

On the good side, the $600 rule for reporting via 1099K is out. It's back to $20,000 and more than 200 transactions under this congress.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's one thing if they wanted to make this rule for opening new accounts - but they want to apply it to existing account holders. Ridiculous. There have to be millions of people out there who don't have passports and whose current name does not match their birth certificate.

Updating personal information is not that difficult.

Not that difficult FOR YOU. Some of us have disabled and/or elderly family members who this is actually a burden for. And it’s their money

+1
As if the billionaire criminal Epstein class uses the local credit union. This is to fxk with the 99%, not the 1%.

The money laundering is happening in plain sight by Republican elites. Banks won't even lend to them. How does disabled great granpa needing to find his 100 year old birth certificate to access his social security payment from his bank stop the money laundering by those guys or the laundering via crypto on the dark web?

It doesn't.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How will a small credit union in Nebraska be able to verify an 80 year old birthcertificate from Alabama or understand immigration laws well enough to determine immigration status for foreign citizens? Good luck. A looming banking crisis with wide repercussions (watch what will happen when large numbers of people, including many many citizens, are suddenly cut off from paying their bills).

You really think people in Nebraska are unable to figure this out?

The bank in Nebraska will be fine, the elderly people who are barely making ends meet who use the bank, not so much.

My grandmother never had a birth certificate and never needed one until she was in her 70s. She had to jump through a whole bunch of hoops to get one when she eventually needed one. White ancestors in the US since the 1600s.

Most people did not have to produce all this documentation on a regular basis until after 9-11, and emphasis on having ids to prove who you were all the time, with the exception of driver's licenses, didn't even start until the 1980s.

I remember walking into a DMV is a new state in the 90s, and only needing my old state driver's license and a utility bill for my new place.

If you are going make every rural person over 80 in the US provide a birth certificate or a passport, good luck with that.

My elderly parents and grandparents kept their records for banking, healthcare, voting, and medical needs updated. Quit making rural people sound ignorant.

Well, mine were less educated and didn't. It is what it is. You obviously don't care if poorly educated Trump supporters get to vote or bank.