Anonymous wrote:What on earth is the possible difference between going to a "top house" sorority or any other sorority when you are a grown ass woman a couple of years later? Especially for out of state students who aren't intending to marry the car dealership guy in Mobile, Alabama?

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Anonymous wrote:If she was that great, she would be able to make friends on her own without paying for them.

This is such a tired trope. Fraternity/sorority dues don't "pay for friends." If that were the case, you wouldn't have to rush and hope for a bid, which many don't get -- including you, probably, which is why you're still making caustic comments about Greek life decades later.

Greek organizations have expenses: a house, social events, travel, and so on. Splitting these costs among so many people necessitates some kind of formal structure to ensure everyone pays their fair share. A group of 3-4 friends who share an apartment and go out on weekends and take spring break trips together can split the costs informally on their own, but that isn't possible with 80 or 100 people.

NP. I love how you think someone not getting into a sorority 30 years ago is the only reason they aren’t pro-Greek life. 🙄

Just curious - I have some friends with kids at UGA. What are the top frats and sororities there?

Also, don't some of these schools also have secret societies and things like that? I think some are in both a frat and a society?

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What on earth is the possible difference between going to a "top house" sorority or any other sorority when you are a grown ass woman a couple of years later? Especially for out of state students who aren't intending to marry the car dealership guy in Mobile, Alabama?

As a southern sec graduate with college kids in sec schools….generally the answer is yes. The old row top houses are out of reach for out of state kids. Your child needs to be happy with the university and open to which house they get. Or don’t go. Some schools don’t even have enough room for everyone that goes through rush. Old row houses are hard for in state kids! Do the sorority members know you from their high school, neighborhood, church or camp..and think you are a big deal? Is it expected back home at any of those places that they would be pledging your child? Is the sorority hoping to get your child bc another sorority also wants them (it is a bit of a competition). There are only so many spots. Those things are first. It isn’t a merit thing. By the time the girls take their friends, neighbors, siblings…cool kids from the high schools they know…there isn’t a ton of room and votes left for out of state girls.

DCUM is just not the audience for this. Could be a troll, I haven't decided.

I was also very anti-Greek, mainly due to lack of exposure (my college didn’t have Greek life and no one from my high school crowd joined fraternities/sororities). After 20+ years of living in the South and working and socializing with people for whom Greek life was a big part of their college experience, my opinion has evolved. Sororities and fraternities do a lot to contribute both on and off campus. I have my concerns about the rush process though, and the pressure it puts on students who are brand new to college.

I was very anti-Greek when I went to college. I was first gen URM. It was not my vibe in the least. My kid however is in a mid-tier sorority at a good state university (not SEC) and is enjoying it. She now holds a leadership position, and is living in the house this year. I have nothing but positive impressions so far. Most members went to public high schools.

Now, my next kid will go to an OOS SEC school, and will rush. We’ll see what happens.

Anonymous wrote:If she was that great, she would be able to make friends on her own without paying for them.

This is such a tired trope. Fraternity/sorority dues don't "pay for friends." If that were the case, you wouldn't have to rush and hope for a bid, which many don't get -- including you, probably, which is why you're still making caustic comments about Greek life decades later.

Greek organizations have expenses: a house, social events, travel, and so on. Splitting these costs among so many people necessitates some kind of formal structure to ensure everyone pays their fair share. A group of 3-4 friends who share an apartment and go out on weekends and take spring break trips together can split the costs informally on their own, but that isn't possible with 80 or 100 people.

Bouse is still better than GDI.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm still cringing from reading this but in the spirit of generosity, I will be helpful.

My DD from the DMV, who sounds a lot like yours, almost went to UGA. We got a tour from a girl from her HS who was a freshman at the time. Girl is tall, pretty, blonde, good social Q. She said that there are a few of the "Old Row" houses that are, in fact, off limits to out of staters. But there are some top sororities (I cannot bring myself to use your language) that do have lot of OOS girls and that you don't need the alumni connections and the coaching and all that to get in.

This girl was pretty dismissive of the Old Row houses and their universe. It seemed like she felt they were in their own little world, and she was fine in hers. Basically, they do their thing, we do ours. We are just as good.

Interesting. Do the Old Row houses tend to mix with specific fraternities that are also exclusively Southern, while the sororities with OOS girls mix with their own counterparts? Or, as I suspect, do the touse fraternity guys not really care where the girls are from as long as they’re attractive?

That, I could not tell you. I would use Reddit for that question.

Anonymous wrote:The top houses are hard to get into for an OOS girl in the SEC. But also hard at places like IU

DP. What about Michigan and Wisconsin? Both have huge OOS populations in general. Does that impact the Greek dynamics?

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Anonymous wrote:The top houses are hard to get into for an OOS girl in the SEC. But also hard at places like IU

At UVA, it seemed like being OOS was an advantage for the top houses. At least compared to being from NOVA.

Yes because they usually are the wealthiest, who can afford to pay that hefty OOS tuition for a state university.

Anonymous wrote:The top houses are hard to get into for an OOS girl in the SEC. But also hard at places like IU

At UVA, it seemed like being OOS was an advantage for the top houses. At least compared to being from NOVA.