Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We found it helpful. One DS was tested at six years old and it put us on the right track immediately. He has dyslexia and it was very helpful to push us to get the right intervention and really lean into it. It’s made all the difference in the world.
The 2nd DS was a bit of a surprise. We didn’t know what the heck was going on with him and got him tested when he was 10 because we thought he had dyslexia because of the genetic factor. Nope. Very very much ADHD. We didn’t know what ADHD could look like and thought it was x when it can be y, z, and m. Almost off the charts. Reading intervention/tutoring would do zero for all that and the only thing that helped him academically and socially is stimulants. He’s in such a better place now and he has an improved understanding of his reactions and impulses.
None of the above would have been possible without the neuro-psych.
You don’t need a “full neuropsych” to diagnose the issues you listed.
You are correct. With the first one, we did the psycho educational testing instead. But with the second one, we absolutely needed the full neuropysch. Trust me.
Not sure why? ADHD is not actually diagnosed through neuropsychological tests (or exclusively that way).
Anonymous wrote:What’s weird about neuropsych testing is that it is a lot of money and professional time spent on not actually getting to understand the kid as an individual. I have the money to pay for another round of private testing but I don’t find it worthwhile at all to pay for. I would absolutely pay that much money for someone who would sit with my kid, observe him at school and with friends, talk to teachers, talk to parents, look at school records, and then provide actual tailored advice about supports and school choices and additional therapy needs. Infinitely more valuable and even more valuable than a diagnosis.
For just one example - my kid (who has an ASD dx) has been struggling in math. The knee jerk reaction was initially that the school based on neuropsych testing and their flawed understanding of autism wanted to say that because of autism he would struggle with higher level math that required conceptual understanding vs rote memorizing needed for younger years. Well that was totally and completely wrong. We got him into math tutoring and after 6 months with a fantastic tutor who really understands math and has tutored or taught many kids, the tutor was able to explain that the issue had nothing to do with kid’s ability to learn math concepts and that he didn’t even need any additional practice or repetition compared to other kids and completes work in a normal time period when he has heard the lesson. The issue was that he was missing the classroom explanation of concepts (zoning out or doing something else). Tutor’s theory (which I agree with) is that the lack of structure in the class and lack of written materials meant he was missing the cues about when to focus and then did not have any structure or written materials to easily go back and figure out what he had missed when he realized he didn’t know how to do the assignment.
That insight from someone who actually knows my kid was incredibly, incredibly valuable - not just for math but for everything going forward. You could say it was just ADHD (although the neuropsychs *never found ADHD* and teachers consistently said his focus was age appropriate) but even that label would not have identified with such concreteness what this issue is - which is an interplay between attention, attending to social cues, need for structure, playing out in an educational system that has gotten rid of major ways that they help kids self-monitor their learning (books! Syllabi!).
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We found it helpful. One DS was tested at six years old and it put us on the right track immediately. He has dyslexia and it was very helpful to push us to get the right intervention and really lean into it. It’s made all the difference in the world.
The 2nd DS was a bit of a surprise. We didn’t know what the heck was going on with him and got him tested when he was 10 because we thought he had dyslexia because of the genetic factor. Nope. Very very much ADHD. We didn’t know what ADHD could look like and thought it was x when it can be y, z, and m. Almost off the charts. Reading intervention/tutoring would do zero for all that and the only thing that helped him academically and socially is stimulants. He’s in such a better place now and he has an improved understanding of his reactions and impulses.
None of the above would have been possible without the neuro-psych.
You don’t need a “full neuropsych” to diagnose the issues you listed.
You are correct. With the first one, we did the psycho educational testing instead. But with the second one, we absolutely needed the full neuropysch. Trust me.
Not sure why? ADHD is not actually diagnosed through neuropsychological tests (or exclusively that way).
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We found it helpful. One DS was tested at six years old and it put us on the right track immediately. He has dyslexia and it was very helpful to push us to get the right intervention and really lean into it. It’s made all the difference in the world.
The 2nd DS was a bit of a surprise. We didn’t know what the heck was going on with him and got him tested when he was 10 because we thought he had dyslexia because of the genetic factor. Nope. Very very much ADHD. We didn’t know what ADHD could look like and thought it was x when it can be y, z, and m. Almost off the charts. Reading intervention/tutoring would do zero for all that and the only thing that helped him academically and socially is stimulants. He’s in such a better place now and he has an improved understanding of his reactions and impulses.
None of the above would have been possible without the neuro-psych.
You don’t need a “full neuropsych” to diagnose the issues you listed.
You are correct. With the first one, we did the psycho educational testing instead. But with the second one, we absolutely needed the full neuropysch. Trust me.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We found it helpful. One DS was tested at six years old and it put us on the right track immediately. He has dyslexia and it was very helpful to push us to get the right intervention and really lean into it. It’s made all the difference in the world.
The 2nd DS was a bit of a surprise. We didn’t know what the heck was going on with him and got him tested when he was 10 because we thought he had dyslexia because of the genetic factor. Nope. Very very much ADHD. We didn’t know what ADHD could look like and thought it was x when it can be y, z, and m. Almost off the charts. Reading intervention/tutoring would do zero for all that and the only thing that helped him academically and socially is stimulants. He’s in such a better place now and he has an improved understanding of his reactions and impulses.
None of the above would have been possible without the neuro-psych.
You don’t need a “full neuropsych” to diagnose the issues you listed.
Anonymous wrote:We found it helpful. One DS was tested at six years old and it put us on the right track immediately. He has dyslexia and it was very helpful to push us to get the right intervention and really lean into it. It’s made all the difference in the world.
The 2nd DS was a bit of a surprise. We didn’t know what the heck was going on with him and got him tested when he was 10 because we thought he had dyslexia because of the genetic factor. Nope. Very very much ADHD. We didn’t know what ADHD could look like and thought it was x when it can be y, z, and m. Almost off the charts. Reading intervention/tutoring would do zero for all that and the only thing that helped him academically and socially is stimulants. He’s in such a better place now and he has an improved understanding of his reactions and impulses.
None of the above would have been possible without the neuro-psych.
Anonymous wrote:What’s weird about neuropsych testing is that it is a lot of money and professional time spent on not actually getting to understand the kid as an individual. I have the money to pay for another round of private testing but I don’t find it worthwhile at all to pay for. I would absolutely pay that much money for someone who would sit with my kid, observe him at school and with friends, talk to teachers, talk to parents, look at school records, and then provide actual tailored advice about supports and school choices and additional therapy needs. Infinitely more valuable and even more valuable than a diagnosis.
For just one example - my kid (who has an ASD dx) has been struggling in math. The knee jerk reaction was initially that the school based on neuropsych testing and their flawed understanding of autism wanted to say that because of autism he would struggle with higher level math that required conceptual understanding vs rote memorizing needed for younger years. Well that was totally and completely wrong. We got him into math tutoring and after 6 months with a fantastic tutor who really understands math and has tutored or taught many kids, the tutor was able to explain that the issue had nothing to do with kid’s ability to learn math concepts and that he didn’t even need any additional practice or repetition compared to other kids and completes work in a normal time period when he has heard the lesson. The issue was that he was missing the classroom explanation of concepts (zoning out or doing something else). Tutor’s theory (which I agree with) is that the lack of structure in the class and lack of written materials meant he was missing the cues about when to focus and then did not have any structure or written materials to easily go back and figure out what he had missed when he realized he didn’t know how to do the assignment.
That insight from someone who actually knows my kid was incredibly, incredibly valuable - not just for math but for everything going forward. You could say it was just ADHD (although the neuropsychs *never found ADHD* and teachers consistently said his focus was age appropriate) but even that label would not have identified with such concreteness what this issue is - which is an interplay between attention, attending to social cues, need for structure, playing out in an educational system that has gotten rid of major ways that they help kids self-monitor their learning (books! Syllabi!).
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No! I wish I could do one on my neurotypical kids. Such wonderful insights into what makes them tick, their strengths and weaknesses. So helpful.
Huh. Like how? I already knew all do these going in with my kid with significant challenges so I honestly found them useless. Like no utility served at all. And we already had an ADHD diagnosis and did all the therapy. I think it completely depends on your kid and the issues. Most parents of kids with issues to the degree of mine have also said they’re pretty redundant.
What a lie. My adult and teen kids both have diagnoses and we've been in the special needs sphere for 15+ years. Not a single parent ever said the neuropsych was redundant. In fact, most said they wished they could have done it sooner.