To say her physical appearance is a train wreck though…just because she’s an average-looking person?

Anonymous wrote:Her physical appearance is a complete train wreck, but so are a lot of people, that alone doesn't make her unlikeable.

The scary part of Lena Denham is that she is psychologically unhinged. She is frighteningly self-destructive, like an emotional suicide bomber floating around normal people, willing to take people out indiscriminately because she had a bad dream the night before.

She is the kind of crazy that you stay 50 feet away from at all times.

Not because she is overweight, it's because of how she treats people. Read her book, it's all in black and white.

She reminds me of a former patient I treated who was quite ill. She basically eroded my desire to help her (and I had a significant amount of it in the beginning). It's a very serious and grave problem...when you continually make people hate you. No joke.

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Anonymous wrote:Her physical appearance is a complete train wreck, but so are a lot of people, that alone doesn't make her unlikeable.

The scary part of Lena Denham is that she is psychologically unhinged. She is frighteningly self-destructive, like an emotional suicide bomber floating around normal people, willing to take people out indiscriminately because she had a bad dream the night before.

She is the kind of crazy that you stay 50 feet away from at all times.

Not because she is overweight, it's because of how she treats people. Read her book, it's all in black and white.

She is constantly trying to get a reaction out of the people around her. These kinds of people are the scariest kinds of people, because you CAN'T ignore them if they land in your orbit for some reason. They push, push, push, until you have to react....and then call the cops on you. She embodies every emotional terrorist we've all had to deal with - in our families, at work, in our communities.
This is why everyone hates Lena Dunham.

Spot on.

They can be scary in part because they often don't know what they feel until they see it reflected outside, in other people. Inside they can feel deadened but the anxiety and social chaos is a defense/distraction from feeling that emptiness...this tracks with her early childhood of anxiety and ocd. Her relaying that she has long found pleasure in annoying people from when she was a little girl ( she does not say it directly but it is inferred...that it gratified her ) also tracks developmentally with the dynamic posted above; A provocateur by nature she has at times acted out the dynamics inherent in sado-masochism. Even now there is an element of masochism in once again putting it all out there in this book, knowing she will garner hate but alas she is driven to do it. I do see growth in her though psychologically...these dynamics are a real bit*h and take years to work through. But yea I vote a masochistic streak....with streaks of sadistic pushing, the opposite side of the same coin. Her self awareness has grown however and I am sure that took a lot of psychological work.

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Anonymous wrote:Her physical appearance is a complete train wreck, but so are a lot of people, that alone doesn't make her unlikeable.

The scary part of Lena Denham is that she is psychologically unhinged. She is frighteningly self-destructive, like an emotional suicide bomber floating around normal people, willing to take people out indiscriminately because she had a bad dream the night before.

She is the kind of crazy that you stay 50 feet away from at all times.

Not because she is overweight, it's because of how she treats people. Read her book, it's all in black and white.

She is constantly trying to get a reaction out of the people around her. These kinds of people are the scariest kinds of people, because you CAN'T ignore them if they land in your orbit for some reason. They push, push, push, until you have to react....and then call the cops on you. She embodies every emotional terrorist we've all had to deal with - in our families, at work, in our communities.
This is why everyone hates Lena Dunham.

Spot on.

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Anonymous wrote:Lol she's been totally off everyone's radar for years, then she pops up with an interview and a project, and you're already "tired" of her.

She really sets people off. I also find her annoying but I find many celebrities annoying. I think the hate against her is much worse because she's not pretty and people do not feel she deserves to be famous as a result.

Agree. I think people are triggered because it seems like a mediocre person with mediocre writing and mediocre looks and mediocre acting is getting her mediocre projects on HBO and Netflix. Writers and actors and producers would kill to get their screenplays picked up by HBO. And it seems to effortlessly happen for Lena Durham, and people can't figure out why. But people are still talking about Girls and Lena Dunham, so she clearly is hitting a nerve. And that's good of course.

I don’t think her writing and ideas are mediocre. Girls was really good, even if the characters were grating at times (or most of the time).

I think she’d garner some level of hate no matter what because she unapologetically mediocre looking. I think it’s actually her defensiveness about it that’s triggering. It’s one thing to admit that you’re unapologetic for not being everyone’s cup of tea, but another to get super mad that everyone isn’t falling all over themselves to disagree with you. And that’s the vibe I get from her.

Anonymous wrote:You can ignore her. She is not your elected-President who makes terrible choices that impact you and the world.

I don't hate Lena Dunham, but the same goes for you and this post? You can ignore this thread, lol. DCUM posters are not your elected officials who make terrible choices that impact you and the world.

Anonymous wrote:Her physical appearance is a complete train wreck, but so are a lot of people, that alone doesn't make her unlikeable.

The scary part of Lena Denham is that she is psychologically unhinged. She is frighteningly self-destructive, like an emotional suicide bomber floating around normal people, willing to take people out indiscriminately because she had a bad dream the night before.

She is the kind of crazy that you stay 50 feet away from at all times.

Not because she is overweight, it's because of how she treats people. Read her book, it's all in black and white.

She is constantly trying to get a reaction out of the people around her. These kinds of people are the scariest kinds of people, because you CAN'T ignore them if they land in your orbit for some reason. They push, push, push, until you have to react....and then call the cops on you. She embodies every emotional terrorist we've all had to deal with - in our families, at work, in our communities.
This is why everyone hates Lena Dunham.

Her physical appearance is a complete train wreck, but so are a lot of people, that alone doesn't make her unlikeable.

The scary part of Lena Denham is that she is psychologically unhinged. She is frighteningly self-destructive, like an emotional suicide bomber floating around normal people, willing to take people out indiscriminately because she had a bad dream the night before.

She is the kind of crazy that you stay 50 feet away from at all times.

Not because she is overweight, it's because of how she treats people. Read her book, it's all in black and white.

Confessing a soft spot for Adam Driver, who could be a double for my ex (or is it vice versa?). Voice, charisma and acting chops -- he has it all.

Anonymous wrote:You can ignore her. She is not your elected-President who makes terrible choices that impact you and the world.

This! And, I really liked "Girls".

Didn’t she molest her little sister?


Only thing good from her is that her show had Adam Driver.

i watched girls but I think she is one of those people who is outrageous just to be outrageous/attention getting. and the whole abortion tweet was just poor form.

You can ignore her. She is not your elected-President who makes terrible choices that impact you and the world.

For those who are like, "Why are you sick of LD?" I would present her recent book tour which resulted in the following piece in the NYT: "The Interview | Lena Dunham Is Still Trying to Figure Out Why People Hated Her So Much"

Great piece, btw, and ironically made me understand her a bit more. Did not, however, make me want to read her memoir. I wish her the best and am happy she seems a bit more stable.

"In hindsight, what do you think the intensity of the loathing of you was really about? I’d be lying if I said I haven’t spent time thinking about this. I’m going to say something that sounds like a cop-out, but I can only phrase it this way: I have annoyed people since I was so small. I was an annoying kid. I was a tryhard. I was loud. I didn’t always know how to move through space with other kids in a way that wasn’t a little off or disruptive. But, also, that was coupled with intense rage about the female sexuality on the show. There was the intense rage about my body, which is so crazy to look back on now, because I was this little slip of a 26-year-old. Had I known my own powers, I would have behaved very differently. And then my own way of moving, whether it was through media or how I handled myself online or even in my writing, didn’t quell it."

My reaction to this is that the discourse on DCUM solely focuses on the rage about female sexuality & her body & attempts to erase the "annoying tryhard" that Dunham herself recognizes. Read the NYT piece though if you're interested in this topic or her at all, tho! It's very well done.

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Anonymous wrote:She wrote a show featuring herself hooking up with handsome men! I actually think it’s kind of endearing. It’s like David Lynch, writing in a scene of himself kissing a beautiful babe because he’s the visionary and he does what he wants. For an old man to do that is one thing, but a young fat woman is beyond the pale!

Not sure about other men, but Adam Driver isn't handsome, and certainly on Girls wasn't more attractive than Lena Dunham.

She said in an interview recently that the audience reception of that character and Driver was different than she intended. People came to see him as a romantic hero, largely because Driver (while not classically handsome) is extremely charismatic onscreen. But she meant for that relationship to be a way to reveal her character, Hannah's, insecurities and flaws to the audience, to create this toxic dynamic that was bad for Hannah but to show how Hannah wouldn't be able to give up on him because she ultimately finds the validation she gets from the relationship too important to her. But audiences fell in love with Driver, which made them root for the character, which was not her goal as a writer.

That was the sort of thing I loved about Girls, though, how they'd write about the realistically idiotic things people do in their 20s, out of insecurity or ego or envy or toxic traits. The show felt very honest at times about how shallow and self-destructive you can be when you are young. My youth wasn't as debauched as the girls on the show, but I saw parallels in the friendship dynamics and the bad choices the women made with regards to men, despite sometimes good intentions.