Anonymous
Post 03/13/2026 15:25     Subject: Dating as short/unattractive man with decent income
Anonymous wrote:Do you have tattoos?


No I’m not a fan of tattoos
Anonymous
Post 03/13/2026 15:16     Subject: Dating as short/unattractive man with decent income
Some of the same women who turn down OP when he's mid 30s and they're early 30s or late 20s may be a lot more infested in 5-10 years. A ticking biological clock can have a real impact on what a woman wants.
Anonymous
Post 03/13/2026 15:13     Subject: Dating as short/unattractive man with decent income
Anonymous wrote:OP the pretty barista and woman working retail aren’t any more into you than the attractive women in your office are. Their job requires them to engage in a friendly way with you. PLEASE don’t confuse that for romantic interest.

You are asking whether you should date a woman you disdain for her career or for her looks. Neither. Date a woman you admire and respect.


Some of those baristas and retail women actually might be into him. Some women have a primal, physical, sexual reaction to successful men. They're not just gold diggers. They're actually aroused by a man's success. Some are also physically turned off by a man's financial struggles even if he looks good, smells good, etc. Not all women are the same.

Anonymous
Post 03/13/2026 14:03     Subject: Dating as short/unattractive man with decent income
I don't understand why you're dating for looks or money? To find a long term partner you need compatibility and friendship. You already make 300k, so it doesn't much matter what she makes.
Anonymous
Post 03/13/2026 13:58     Subject: Dating as short/unattractive man with decent income
If you don't mind being seen as a meal ticket, then sure, go for the attractive low wage worker. Just go in with your eyes wide open that this will be a transactional relationship.
Anonymous
Post 03/13/2026 13:51     Subject: Dating as short/unattractive man with decent income
1) Whoever you actually enjoy spending time with and look forward to seeing again.

2) Looks aren't everything but they aren't nothing. If you're not already lifting weights 45 minutes, 2-3 times a week, start. It might help you with women, and even if it doesn't, you'll be healthier and probably happier.
Anonymous
Post 03/13/2026 13:08     Subject: Dating as short/unattractive man with decent income
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Honestly, if your selling points are reduced to a height and an income, that’s what is going to limit you. I am only slightly taller and make half what you do and am not conventionally attractive, but have no trouble attracting women. Personality, character, respect, and demeanor matter. So who do you “go for”? The one who doesn’t care about your height and income.


I emphasized my height because it’s a huge deal for most young women these days with respect to overall physical attractiveness. Like you can be handsome but if you aren’t at least a certain height it cancels it out. Overall, probably 80-90% of your dating success is some function of looks and socioeconomic status. I’m also guilty of it so not trying to complain or anything


I applaud OP for being honest about his options and I feel his assessment is entirely correct, based on what is written. Men don't want to date ugly women (OP sure doesn't) and women don't want to date short poor men. It is what it is.

It really depends on what you want OP. Think ahead.

Do you want to be sole-breadwinner for a family (if you want kids), or does that sound stressful?
Do you like the status and prestige that you get from being with a hot girl over the prestige of being married to a high earning doctor type?
What is the race of yourself and the women you like? Latin and Asian men tend to be short. I have seen some very short white guys end up with very attractive Latin/Asian women.


Racist much? You're trying to say that attractive Latin/Asian women would go for losers because they are Latin/Asian? The attractive Latina or Asian women who end up with someone who is short like that person because they find him attractive, charismatic, kind, and all that. I can think of a couple really pretty women I know and one of the men who is short is a very good looking banker and another is an athlete who is a very successful entrepreneur and famous in his field. They could have their pick of tall men and those short men could have their pick of tall women. They wouldn't be dating someone like OP who is insecure and only wants women who can do better for themselves than him whatever that means.


DP. Latin women tend not to care about height. Different cultures have different ideas of what is attractive.
Anonymous
Post 03/13/2026 13:06     Subject: Dating as short/unattractive man with decent income
Anonymous wrote:Honestly, if your selling points are reduced to a height and an income, that’s what is going to limit you. I am only slightly taller and make half what you do and am not conventionally attractive, but have no trouble attracting women. Personality, character, respect, and demeanor matter. So who do you “go for”? The one who doesn’t care about your height and income.


He has no problem attracting women at his level. Problem is he wants to punch above his weight. He is not attracted to women who are similar in attractiveness to him.
Anonymous
Post 03/13/2026 13:03     Subject: Dating as short/unattractive man with decent income
Attraction is overrated. Find a woman who is horny.
Anonymous
Post 03/13/2026 12:43     Subject: Dating as short/unattractive man with decent income
My father was 5'5, Spanish heritage but born in US, charming, intelligent, wrote poetry and songs, worked as a First Mate on a cruise liner. My 5'8" mother was smitten and engaged within 2 weeks. I am 5'7".
Anonymous
Post 03/13/2026 11:07     Subject: Dating as short/unattractive man with decent income
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Honestly, if your selling points are reduced to a height and an income, that’s what is going to limit you. I am only slightly taller and make half what you do and am not conventionally attractive, but have no trouble attracting women. Personality, character, respect, and demeanor matter. So who do you “go for”? The one who doesn’t care about your height and income.


I emphasized my height because it’s a huge deal for most young women these days with respect to overall physical attractiveness. Like you can be handsome but if you aren’t at least a certain height it cancels it out. Overall, probably 80-90% of your dating success is some function of looks and socioeconomic status. I’m also guilty of it so not trying to complain or anything


I applaud OP for being honest about his options and I feel his assessment is entirely correct, based on what is written. Men don't want to date ugly women (OP sure doesn't) and women don't want to date short poor men. It is what it is.

It really depends on what you want OP. Think ahead.

Do you want to be sole-breadwinner for a family (if you want kids), or does that sound stressful?
Do you like the status and prestige that you get from being with a hot girl over the prestige of being married to a high earning doctor type?
What is the race of yourself and the women you like? Latin and Asian men tend to be short. I have seen some very short white guys end up with very attractive Latin/Asian women.


Racist much? You're trying to say that attractive Latin/Asian women would go for losers because they are Latin/Asian? The attractive Latina or Asian women who end up with someone who is short like that person because they find him attractive, charismatic, kind, and all that. I can think of a couple really pretty women I know and one of the men who is short is a very good looking banker and another is an athlete who is a very successful entrepreneur and famous in his field. They could have their pick of tall men and those short men could have their pick of tall women. They wouldn't be dating someone like OP who is insecure and only wants women who can do better for themselves than him whatever that means.
Anonymous
Post 03/13/2026 10:07     Subject: Dating as short/unattractive man with decent income
Depends on if the retail women type actually likes you.
Anonymous
Post 03/13/2026 08:24     Subject: Dating as short/unattractive man with decent income
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Honestly, if your selling points are reduced to a height and an income, that’s what is going to limit you. I am only slightly taller and make half what you do and am not conventionally attractive, but have no trouble attracting women. Personality, character, respect, and demeanor matter. So who do you “go for”? The one who doesn’t care about your height and income.


I emphasized my height because it’s a huge deal for most young women these days with respect to overall physical attractiveness. Like you can be handsome but if you aren’t at least a certain height it cancels it out. Overall, probably 80-90% of your dating success is some function of looks and socioeconomic status. I’m also guilty of it so not trying to complain or anything


I applaud OP for being honest about his options and I feel his assessment is entirely correct, based on what is written. Men don't want to date ugly women (OP sure doesn't) and women don't want to date short poor men. It is what it is.

It really depends on what you want OP. Think ahead.

Do you want to be sole-breadwinner for a family (if you want kids), or does that sound stressful?
Do you like the status and prestige that you get from being with a hot girl over the prestige of being married to a high earning doctor type?
What is the race of yourself and the women you like? Latin and Asian men tend to be short. I have seen some very short white guys end up with very attractive Latin/Asian women.


Wow! Mind blown! Is this the answer to all the whining from short guys about how they are discriminated against? And what about Jewish women, since there are also lots of short Jewish men? I think this future lawyer is Latin and Jewish; maybe she would be your cup of tea.



Anonymous
Post 03/13/2026 07:00     Subject: Dating as short/unattractive man with decent income
OP the pretty barista and woman working retail aren’t any more into you than the attractive women in your office are. Their job requires them to engage in a friendly way with you. PLEASE don’t confuse that for romantic interest.

You are asking whether you should date a woman you disdain for her career or for her looks. Neither. Date a woman you admire and respect.
Anonymous
Post 03/13/2026 00:51     Subject: Re:Dating as short/unattractive man with decent income
Since you are a man - - I would advise you to go for the more attractive of the two.

Because as you already know ->> men are prioritizing looks over everything since the beginning of time‼️