Anonymous wrote:


Citation please. I am 100% solar (panels on my roof) and my Tesla is charged via solar so I'm taking zero away from you. So don't judge me sitting in traffic with my Tesla. TIA.

I'll judge you because it's a Tesla plenty of other electric vehicles out there.

Judge that I am a diehard Trump supporter or what? I bought the car years ago before there were "plenty of other electric vehicles out there". You will judge that I am not interested in trading in my car just to make a political statement??? Or I should do it just to please you??

All I know is I turn on my EV and don’t smell noxious gas exhaust. If MAGA likes that smell, more power to them. Breathe deeply.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because electricity to my home for lights and refrigerators is more important than your sitting in traffic with your Tesla.

I mean transportation is important, but when push comes to shove, there is so much wasted energy running around that people can easily prioritize. But plugging in that EV sends energy bills through the roof.

Really when I plug in my EV I get the equivalent of a tank of gas for $15. A friend said they spent $85 on a tank of gas today.

You also do not seem to understand how EVs works. Sit in traffic does not waste energy in an EV. EVs are 95% efficient vs a gas car that wastes 2/3 of the energy in a gallon of gas due to thermal loss.

I’ll admit to knowing nothing about how cars work beyond “this pedal makes it go,” but that claim seemed sketchy to me too.

We have one gas-powered car and just got one EV, and we do almost all our driving in heavy DC traffic. The gas car has great MPG on the highway but terrible in the city because of how much it burns through when sitting at lights or otherwise in heavy traffic. We have to ignore the “25 miles left” type countdown when the gas tank gets low because even though it automatically adjusts for highway vs city, it doesn’t adjust enough and drops precipitously on the 2-mile round trip to school dropoff. Meanwhile when the EV isn’t actively driving, it just powers down and waits.

Since I’m weighing in, though, I will say that owning an EV in DC without the option of home charging has been a bigger headache than we expected. The charging infrastructure just isn’t there, so what IS there is always taken. It has been a constant battle, and I don’t think we’ve made it all the way to a full “tank” a single time in the month that we’ve had the car. DC announced a pilot program for curbside chargers, and even that is both some point in the future and ONE unit per ward, so I don’t anticipate this getting much better any time soon.

Anonymous wrote:Because electricity to my home for lights and refrigerators is more important than your sitting in traffic with your Tesla.

I mean transportation is important, but when push comes to shove, there is so much wasted energy running around that people can easily prioritize. But plugging in that EV sends energy bills through the roof.

What are you effing talking about???

My friend has 4 EVs, all powered by solar. He does not pay a dime for gasoline. His entire house is powered by solar.

His EV ownership does not affect anyone's energy bills. It likely lowers them. He sells back the extra energy from his solar panels to the electric co.

Anonymous wrote:

Because electricity to my home for lights and refrigerators is more important than your sitting in traffic with your Tesla.

I mean transportation is important, but when push comes to shove, there is so much wasted energy running around that people can easily prioritize. But plugging in that EV sends energy bills through the roof.

Citation please. I am 100% solar (panels on my roof) and my Tesla is charged via solar so I'm taking zero away from you. So don't judge me sitting in traffic with my Tesla. TIA.

I'll judge you because it's a Tesla plenty of other electric vehicles out there.

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jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because electricity to my home for lights and refrigerators is more important than your sitting in traffic with your Tesla.

I mean transportation is important, but when push comes to shove, there is so much wasted energy running around that people can easily prioritize. But plugging in that EV sends energy bills through the roof.

Like the earlier poster, we are charging with electricity generated by our solar panels. So, no impact on your electrical bill. Moreover, home charging can be scheduled for the middle of the night when very little electricity is being used. EVs are really impacting your electrical bill. But wait until you hear about all the data centers that are being built.

I call virtue signaling BS. I grew up on a solar/wind powered farm. There is no way you are living in DC and charging a tesla to any substantive amount. It takes acres of panels, and you'd still end up only driving a couple days a week. We knew people that tried to do it. It would be an ecological disaster to do that at scale.

Shame on you.

Hilarious! I live in Arlington and my neighbors haven’t had an electricity bill in years due to solar panels. Maybe get out more. Were you living on that farm in 1810?

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because electricity to my home for lights and refrigerators is more important than your sitting in traffic with your Tesla.

I mean transportation is important, but when push comes to shove, there is so much wasted energy running around that people can easily prioritize. But plugging in that EV sends energy bills through the roof.

Like the earlier poster, we are charging with electricity generated by our solar panels. So, no impact on your electrical bill. Moreover, home charging can be scheduled for the middle of the night when very little electricity is being used. EVs are really impacting your electrical bill. But wait until you hear about all the data centers that are being built.

I call virtue signaling BS. I grew up on a solar/wind powered farm. There is no way you are living in DC and charging a tesla to any substantive amount. It takes acres of panels, and you'd still end up only driving a couple days a week. We knew people that tried to do it. It would be an ecological disaster to do that at scale.

Shame on you.

What are you talking about? First of all, I don't have a Tesla. My solar panels are a 9.20 kW system. It can easily charge a car. You probably are not familiar with modern technology. Panels have improved a lot in recent years.

So, shame on you.

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because electricity to my home for lights and refrigerators is more important than your sitting in traffic with your Tesla.

I mean transportation is important, but when push comes to shove, there is so much wasted energy running around that people can easily prioritize. But plugging in that EV sends energy bills through the roof.

Like the earlier poster, we are charging with electricity generated by our solar panels. So, no impact on your electrical bill. Moreover, home charging can be scheduled for the middle of the night when very little electricity is being used. EVs are really impacting your electrical bill. But wait until you hear about all the data centers that are being built.

I call virtue signaling BS. I grew up on a solar/wind powered farm. There is no way you are living in DC and charging a tesla to any substantive amount. It takes acres of panels, and you'd still end up only driving a couple days a week. We knew people that tried to do it. It would be an ecological disaster to do that at scale.

Shame on you.

Electricity for EVs to replace all US cars could be provided simply by replacing existing ethanol corn fields (10% of USA ICE car fuel) by fields of solar panels.

This is how stupid and evil right wingers are.

+1 But Trump was bought by the oil companies.

Electricity for EVs to replace all US cars could be provided simply by replacing existing ethanol corn fields (10% of USA ICE car fuel) by fields of solar panels.

This is how stupid and evil right wingers are.

Anonymous wrote:

Because electricity to my home for lights and refrigerators is more important than your sitting in traffic with your Tesla.

I mean transportation is important, but when push comes to shove, there is so much wasted energy running around that people can easily prioritize. But plugging in that EV sends energy bills through the roof.

And the gas for your ICE car is heavily subsidized.
If all subsidies—including tax breaks, environmental, and defense costs—were removed, a gallon of gas could cost between $7 and $15+ per gallon. So don't tell me that you are paying for my EV to be charged! I am paying for you to drive your ICE car!

It is funny. Every EV that replaces a gas car reduces oil demand by the equivalent of two gas cars being taken off the roads. The people who want to drive gas car should cheer EVs because it reduces gas prices,

Anonymous wrote:Because electricity to my home for lights and refrigerators is more important than your sitting in traffic with your Tesla.

I mean transportation is important, but when push comes to shove, there is so much wasted energy running around that people can easily prioritize. But plugging in that EV sends energy bills through the roof.

Like the earlier poster, we are charging with electricity generated by our solar panels. So, no impact on your electrical bill. Moreover, home charging can be scheduled for the middle of the night when very little electricity is being used. EVs are really impacting your electrical bill. But wait until you hear about all the data centers that are being built.

Anonymous wrote:Because electricity to my home for lights and refrigerators is more important than your sitting in traffic with your Tesla.

I mean transportation is important, but when push comes to shove, there is so much wasted energy running around that people can easily prioritize. But plugging in that EV sends energy bills through the roof.

Really when I plug in my EV I get the equivalent of a tank of gas for $15. A friend said they spent $85 on a tank of gas today.

You also do not seem to understand how EVs works. Sit in traffic does not waste energy in an EV. EVs are 95% efficient vs a gas car that wastes 2/3 of the energy in a gallon of gas due to thermal loss.

Because electricity to my home for lights and refrigerators is more important than your sitting in traffic with your Tesla.

I mean transportation is important, but when push comes to shove, there is so much wasted energy running around that people can easily prioritize. But plugging in that EV sends energy bills through the roof.

And the gas for your ICE car is heavily subsidized.
If all subsidies—including tax breaks, environmental, and defense costs—were removed, a gallon of gas could cost between $7 and $15+ per gallon. So don't tell me that you are paying for my EV to be charged! I am paying for you to drive your ICE car!

Because electricity to my home for lights and refrigerators is more important than your sitting in traffic with your Tesla.

I mean transportation is important, but when push comes to shove, there is so much wasted energy running around that people can easily prioritize. But plugging in that EV sends energy bills through the roof.

Citation please. I am 100% solar (panels on my roof) and my Tesla is charged via solar so I'm taking zero away from you. So don't judge me sitting in traffic with my Tesla. TIA.