Anonymous
02/27/2026 09:17
Subject: Re:Nurul Amin Shah Alam found dead after ICE took him from NY jail and abandoned him on a freezing night.
Anonymous wrote:
Dude was blind. They probably said "we'll drop you here" and when he got out he wouldn't have been able to see that it was closed. And he didn't speak English well enough to articulate his distress presumably.
But the ICE people presumably had their senses around them. I hope this man haunts their dreams nightly--how callous can you be to dump a blind old man at a closed coffee shop in the freezing cold.
I think the ICEe agents should be able to be legally sued by the family for gross negligence...
Anonymous
02/27/2026 09:08
Subject: Re:Nurul Amin Shah Alam found dead after ICE took him from NY jail and abandoned him on a freezing night.
Dude was blind. They probably said "we'll drop you here" and when he got out he wouldn't have been able to see that it was closed. And he didn't speak English well enough to articulate his distress presumably.
But the ICE people presumably had their senses around them. I hope this man haunts their dreams nightly--how callous can you be to dump a blind old man at a closed coffee shop in the freezing cold.
Anonymous
02/27/2026 09:05
Subject: Nurul Amin Shah Alam found dead after ICE took him from NY jail and abandoned him on a freezing night.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This situation is tragic. A man died. That is sad. But what makes me angry is how quickly this turns into a narrative where questioning the system is treated as heartless.
I’m a first generation American. My parents came here with nothing. They did not come for support. They came to work, to serve, to build something, and to give back. They paid taxes. They created jobs. They respected the law. In our home, immigration meant contribution. It meant earning your place here through effort and responsibility.
That is the standard I was raised with.
Asylum is supposed to be about urgent protection from persecution. It is not supposed to be a long term entitlement program. If someone enters under humanitarian protection, later commits crimes, serves a sentence, and still remains in the country with ongoing public support and supervision, it is fair to ask whether the system is aligned with contribution and accountability.
Taxpayers are not an unlimited resource. Americans are already struggling with housing costs, healthcare, and inflation. When the immigration system appears to prioritize continued support for individuals who are not integrating, not contributing economically, and not respecting the law, public trust erodes.
This is not about politics. It is not about attacking refugees as people. It is about whether immigration policy should prioritize safety paired with responsibility and contribution. If we stop expecting contribution altogether, we fundamentally change what immigration to America has historically meant.
We can acknowledge tragedy and still say clearly: immigration must be tied to accountability, lawful behavior, and a good faith effort to contribute to the country that offers protection. Without that, the system becomes unsustainable.
One more thing that really needs to be said.
Asylum is supposed to be about immediate safety from persecution. The core idea is protection, not picking a preferred destination.
Myanmar is bordered by Bangladesh, India, Thailand, China, and Laos. Several of those countries already host refugees from Myanmar. If someone is truly fleeing urgent danger, the nearest safe country is where protection should happen. That is the basic logic of asylum.
So it is completely fair to ask: why travel halfway across the world to the United States when there are neighboring countries providing refuge?
When asylum starts looking less like emergency protection and more like selecting the country with the strongest benefits and long term support systems, people are going to question it. That is not heartless. It is rational.
The United States cannot function as the default endpoint for every crisis across the globe simply because it offers more resources. If proximity and immediate safety are no longer the standard, then asylum stops being about protection and starts being about destination choice.
Compassion matters. But policy still has to make sense.
The US is not the default endpoint of Rohingya refugees. There are approx. 1.3 million Rohingya refugees and about 12,000-15,000 in the US.
That comes out to about 1.2% settled in the US and about 98.8% are elsewhere. Bangladesh alone has over 1,000,000 Rohingya refugees.
According to the UN, the Rohingya are “the most persecuted minority in the world.” The US government officially declared what happened to them in Myanmar as a genocide.
Are you saying the US shouldn't offer asylum to these 12000 - 15000 people? Only about 1% of all the Rohingya refugees?
You can read about some of the crimes of the Myanmar military below in a report put out by the US Holocaust Museum:
https://www.ushmm.org/m/pdfs/201711-atrocity-crimes-rohingya-muslims.pdf
https://www.unrefugees.org/emergencies/rohingya-refugee-crisis/
Anonymous
02/27/2026 08:48
Subject: Nurul Amin Shah Alam found dead after ICE took him from NY jail and abandoned him on a freezing night.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm really not sure when we just completely lost our way.
I just don't remember us being so horrible even 10 or 15 years ago. Maybe I had rose colored glasses.
The police all seem like disgusting thugs and ICE are monsters.
It’s a very good question. Americans used to be the good guys. Hard to believe that any person could be this callous - let alone a well-resourced federal official.
There is no bottom to the Trump administration. None.
There’s a very strong argument to be made that Americans have never actually been the good guys. The idea of Americans being heroic is… not reality, and never has been. As my father in law said “if Americans were so great they never would have made black people use separate water fountains. That’s just insane.”
Look at who Americans voted for.
Twice.
Actually, many voted for him THREE times, even though he lost one of those times.
Anonymous
02/27/2026 08:30
Subject: Nurul Amin Shah Alam found dead after ICE took him from NY jail and abandoned him on a freezing night.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm really not sure when we just completely lost our way.
I just don't remember us being so horrible even 10 or 15 years ago. Maybe I had rose colored glasses.
The police all seem like disgusting thugs and ICE are monsters.
It’s a very good question. Americans used to be the good guys. Hard to believe that any person could be this callous - let alone a well-resourced federal official.
There is no bottom to the Trump administration. None.
There’s a very strong argument to be made that Americans have never actually been the good guys. The idea of Americans being heroic is… not reality, and never has been. As my father in law said “if Americans were so great they never would have made black people use separate water fountains. That’s just insane.”
Look at who Americans voted for.
Twice.
Anonymous
02/27/2026 08:22
Subject: Re:Nurul Amin Shah Alam found dead after ICE took him from NY jail and abandoned him on a freezing night.
Anonymous wrote:These stories make one ask - Where is the humanity and how did the US get to this level of cruelty?
How will it find its way back to humanity, as a country?
Look at all the posters making up excuses for this behavior. There are many others like them who will excuse anything as long as people they don’t like are getting hurt.
Anonymous
02/27/2026 07:53
Subject: Re:Nurul Amin Shah Alam found dead after ICE took him from NY jail and abandoned him on a freezing night.
These stories make one ask - Where is the humanity and how did the US get to this level of cruelty?
How will it find its way back to humanity, as a country?
How will it find its way back to humanity, as a country?
Anonymous
02/27/2026 07:42
Subject: Re:Nurul Amin Shah Alam found dead after ICE took him from NY jail and abandoned him on a freezing night.
If he had been a rich Epstein perv who raped a teenage girl he would have been treated like royalty and given a luxurious robe, slippers and bottle of cognac to enjoy by the fire. Then offered a Cabinet position.
Anonymous
02/27/2026 07:22
Subject: Nurul Amin Shah Alam found dead after ICE took him from NY jail and abandoned him on a freezing night.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You can read about it here , there are many countries nearby that can take them in. No need for for fake refugee status to ship them all the way to the us
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rohingya_people
So you’re good with murdering him?
No one murdered anyone, he was left at a place of his choosing after serving a jail sentence. Why didn't the jail call his family? D
This is a new angle of insane.
Anonymous
02/27/2026 07:10
Subject: Nurul Amin Shah Alam found dead after ICE took him from NY jail and abandoned him on a freezing night.
Anonymous wrote:Very misleading he was a criminal and was released from jail on state charges after serving a sentence. Ice offered to drop him off and he chose the coffee shop . If anything ice helped him as local authorities would have released him on the street
According to the Buffalo mayor Ryan, he wasn’t even given proper shoes. And local police wouldn’t have left him like that:
Ryan said that when Shah Alam was found dead, he was not wearing shoes, but rather the orange booties that are issued to inmates at the holding center.
"So that's bad policing, but it's also bad human beings," Ryan said. "That is an inhumane thing to do."
He said he was confident any Buffalo police officer would have taken the man to a shelter if he had no other place to go.
Anonymous
02/27/2026 02:57
Subject: Re:Nurul Amin Shah Alam found dead after ICE took him from NY jail and abandoned him on a freezing night.
Anonymous wrote:I think Democrats need to stop spreading misinformation. ICE is no way involved in this and if you really believe in the stuff that they are posting in Twitter than I am afraid you’re presenting a skill issue during our Golden Age. Ha ha. Stand with ICE.
Stop with calling people the name of a political party. We are Americans who are disturbed by what’s going on in our country. It’s not democrats it’s every decent human.
Anonymous
02/27/2026 02:54
Subject: Nurul Amin Shah Alam found dead after ICE took him from NY jail and abandoned him on a freezing night.
Anonymous wrote:Very misleading he was a criminal and was released from jail on state charges after serving a sentence. Ice offered to drop him off and he chose the coffee shop . If anything ice helped him as local authorities would have released him on the street
ICE did release him on the street you idiot. And police don’t dump people on the street in frigid weather.
Anonymous
02/27/2026 00:51
Subject: Nurul Amin Shah Alam found dead after ICE took him from NY jail and abandoned him on a freezing night.
He’d been in jail since Feb of 2025 because his family didn't want to bail him out. He trespassed on a patio with two metal poles so the homeowner called police. Police arrive and see him waving two rods, he gets tasered but it didn’t seem to affect him then when police detained him, he bit them.
Maybe he didn’t understand, maybe the police were correct that they smelled alcohol, maybe he couldn’t see them.
The craziest thing about this story is he was kept in jail for a year. It seems like barely anyone is detained anymore. How did this guy end up spending a whole year in jail?
Maybe he didn’t understand, maybe the police were correct that they smelled alcohol, maybe he couldn’t see them.
The craziest thing about this story is he was kept in jail for a year. It seems like barely anyone is detained anymore. How did this guy end up spending a whole year in jail?
Anonymous
02/26/2026 23:25
Subject: Nurul Amin Shah Alam found dead after ICE took him from NY jail and abandoned him on a freezing night.
Anonymous wrote:This situation is tragic. A man died. That is sad. But what makes me angry is how quickly this turns into a narrative where questioning the system is treated as heartless.
I’m a first generation American. My parents came here with nothing. They did not come for support. They came to work, to serve, to build something, and to give back. They paid taxes. They created jobs. They respected the law. In our home, immigration meant contribution. It meant earning your place here through effort and responsibility.
That is the standard I was raised with.
Asylum is supposed to be about urgent protection from persecution. It is not supposed to be a long term entitlement program. If someone enters under humanitarian protection, later commits crimes, serves a sentence, and still remains in the country with ongoing public support and supervision, it is fair to ask whether the system is aligned with contribution and accountability.
Taxpayers are not an unlimited resource. Americans are already struggling with housing costs, healthcare, and inflation. When the immigration system appears to prioritize continued support for individuals who are not integrating, not contributing economically, and not respecting the law, public trust erodes.
This is not about politics. It is not about attacking refugees as people. It is about whether immigration policy should prioritize safety paired with responsibility and contribution. If we stop expecting contribution altogether, we fundamentally change what immigration to America has historically meant.
We can acknowledge tragedy and still say clearly: immigration must be tied to accountability, lawful behavior, and a good faith effort to contribute to the country that offers protection. Without that, the system becomes unsustainable.
One more thing that really needs to be said.
Asylum is supposed to be about immediate safety from persecution. The core idea is protection, not picking a preferred destination.
Myanmar is bordered by Bangladesh, India, Thailand, China, and Laos. Several of those countries already host refugees from Myanmar. If someone is truly fleeing urgent danger, the nearest safe country is where protection should happen. That is the basic logic of asylum.
So it is completely fair to ask: why travel halfway across the world to the United States when there are neighboring countries providing refuge?
When asylum starts looking less like emergency protection and more like selecting the country with the strongest benefits and long term support systems, people are going to question it. That is not heartless. It is rational.
The United States cannot function as the default endpoint for every crisis across the globe simply because it offers more resources. If proximity and immediate safety are no longer the standard, then asylum stops being about protection and starts being about destination choice.
Compassion matters. But policy still has to make sense.
Anonymous
02/26/2026 23:25
Subject: Nurul Amin Shah Alam found dead after ICE took him from NY jail and abandoned him on a freezing night.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm really not sure when we just completely lost our way.
I just don't remember us being so horrible even 10 or 15 years ago. Maybe I had rose colored glasses.
The police all seem like disgusting thugs and ICE are monsters.
It’s a very good question. Americans used to be the good guys. Hard to believe that any person could be this callous - let alone a well-resourced federal official.
There is no bottom to the Trump administration. None.
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