Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't need or expect emotional support. But downright callousness and lack of empathy is pretty frightening.
When my parents were advanced in age, one with serious terminal issues, they were scared. To act as if they should still act like parents is absurd. Sometimes the child needs to provide the comfort.
I think with serious medical issues and related fears one needs professional support. Most of us are not trained in psychology, therapy, medical science etc. etc. Sometimes adult kids start avoiding a parent because they don't know what to do. The elderly parent has high expectations and expects the adult child to solve all their problems and take away the pain... and realistically, it's simply impossible. Then the guilt-tripping starts, making it even more impossible. Unfortunately a lot of elders have not made peace with their mortality and turn excessively selfish and demanding as the end nears.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yes, yes it is. Because it implies that the parent has no-one else to get emotional support from. Nobody starts demanding emotional support from adult children who has a functioning network of about same-aged friends and relatives/siblings, with whom they have kept up functional relationships. Sure, when there's an illness or grieving, it's normal to reach out short-term. The problem becomes when it's expected long-term and/or there's literally nobody else the parent can turn to. Also agree with PP and felt it myself (as did my siblings), that when we lost our dad, it all became about mom's grief. She didn't even realize (at least never verbalized) that we, the adult kids, were also grieving.
The bolded is too severe. It can be hard to maintain a network of same-age emotionally, supportive friends and family as you age. What if your sister has Alzheimer's? What if your closest friends move away to be near their grandkids? People die, get sick, become more distant as they care for a declining spouse or a sick child, etc. Sometimes people wind up somewhat isolated through no fault of their own, especially as they age.
I'm not saying this would justify dumbing all your problems on your adult child, but I don't think it's unreasonable for functional adult children to be PART of an emotional support network, especially for people in their 60s, 70s, and 80s. Not doing all the heavy lifting, but being present, providing companionship, sometimes listening to troubles and providing validation and support. The idea that a person is going to be able to maintain a separate support system of same-age people their entire life is just not realistic.
I am sorry your mom has been unable or unwilling to support you in your grief. I have seen a similar dynamic with my MIL and my DH -- she never acknowledges that DH lost his dad and is grieving too. But in her case, she absolutely has siblings nearby and friends who can support her. She's just never been particularly emotionally supportive of DH, even when he was a child, and I think has narcissistic tendencies that lead to her always centering her pain and her experiences. It's not about her being isolated or failing to maintain relationships, it's about how she approaches her relationship with DH, specifically, and the dysfunction in that dynamic.
I don't think it's unrealistic at all to keep or develop your own support system. What if you don't have kids? We all move around and have to find things to do and meet new people and develop new support systems throughout our lives. It's not like you made friends in elementary school and that's it. From my experience the ones who heavily rely on their adult children for emotional support have exhausted their other relationships with their unpleasant or personality disordered or somewhat narcissistic behavior: meaning everybody else has walked away and/or is not picking up the phone. Then the adult kids are there, because they are the last ones to walk away, and as some say, the phone gets blown up because they have no coping skills themselves.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yes, yes it is. Because it implies that the parent has no-one else to get emotional support from. Nobody starts demanding emotional support from adult children who has a functioning network of about same-aged friends and relatives/siblings, with whom they have kept up functional relationships. Sure, when there's an illness or grieving, it's normal to reach out short-term. The problem becomes when it's expected long-term and/or there's literally nobody else the parent can turn to. Also agree with PP and felt it myself (as did my siblings), that when we lost our dad, it all became about mom's grief. She didn't even realize (at least never verbalized) that we, the adult kids, were also grieving.
The bolded is too severe. It can be hard to maintain a network of same-age emotionally, supportive friends and family as you age. What if your sister has Alzheimer's? What if your closest friends move away to be near their grandkids? People die, get sick, become more distant as they care for a declining spouse or a sick child, etc. Sometimes people wind up somewhat isolated through no fault of their own, especially as they age.
I'm not saying this would justify dumbing all your problems on your adult child, but I don't think it's unreasonable for functional adult children to be PART of an emotional support network, especially for people in their 60s, 70s, and 80s. Not doing all the heavy lifting, but being present, providing companionship, sometimes listening to troubles and providing validation and support. The idea that a person is going to be able to maintain a separate support system of same-age people their entire life is just not realistic.
I am sorry your mom has been unable or unwilling to support you in your grief. I have seen a similar dynamic with my MIL and my DH -- she never acknowledges that DH lost his dad and is grieving too. But in her case, she absolutely has siblings nearby and friends who can support her. She's just never been particularly emotionally supportive of DH, even when he was a child, and I think has narcissistic tendencies that lead to her always centering her pain and her experiences. It's not about her being isolated or failing to maintain relationships, it's about how she approaches her relationship with DH, specifically, and the dysfunction in that dynamic.
I don't think it's unrealistic at all to keep or develop your own support system. What if you don't have kids? We all move around and have to find things to do and meet new people and develop new support systems throughout our lives. It's not like you made friends in elementary school and that's it. From my experience the ones who heavily rely on their adult children for emotional support have exhausted their other relationships with their unpleasant or personality disordered or somewhat narcissistic behavior: meaning everybody else has walked away and/or is not picking up the phone. Then the adult kids are there, because they are the last ones to walk away, and as some say, the phone gets blown up because they have no coping skills themselves.
Anonymous wrote:I don't need or expect emotional support. But downright callousness and lack of empathy is pretty frightening.
When my parents were advanced in age, one with serious terminal issues, they were scared. To act as if they should still act like parents is absurd. Sometimes the child needs to provide the comfort.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yes, yes it is. Because it implies that the parent has no-one else to get emotional support from. Nobody starts demanding emotional support from adult children who has a functioning network of about same-aged friends and relatives/siblings, with whom they have kept up functional relationships. Sure, when there's an illness or grieving, it's normal to reach out short-term. The problem becomes when it's expected long-term and/or there's literally nobody else the parent can turn to. Also agree with PP and felt it myself (as did my siblings), that when we lost our dad, it all became about mom's grief. She didn't even realize (at least never verbalized) that we, the adult kids, were also grieving.
The bolded is too severe. It can be hard to maintain a network of same-age emotionally, supportive friends and family as you age. What if your sister has Alzheimer's? What if your closest friends move away to be near their grandkids? People die, get sick, become more distant as they care for a declining spouse or a sick child, etc. Sometimes people wind up somewhat isolated through no fault of their own, especially as they age.
I'm not saying this would justify dumbing all your problems on your adult child, but I don't think it's unreasonable for functional adult children to be PART of an emotional support network, especially for people in their 60s, 70s, and 80s. Not doing all the heavy lifting, but being present, providing companionship, sometimes listening to troubles and providing validation and support. The idea that a person is going to be able to maintain a separate support system of same-age people their entire life is just not realistic.
I am sorry your mom has been unable or unwilling to support you in your grief. I have seen a similar dynamic with my MIL and my DH -- she never acknowledges that DH lost his dad and is grieving too. But in her case, she absolutely has siblings nearby and friends who can support her. She's just never been particularly emotionally supportive of DH, even when he was a child, and I think has narcissistic tendencies that lead to her always centering her pain and her experiences. It's not about her being isolated or failing to maintain relationships, it's about how she approaches her relationship with DH, specifically, and the dysfunction in that dynamic.
Anonymous wrote:I don’t think it’s normal for parents to seek emotional support from their (adult) children, but I do think it’s normal for (adult) children to offer some emotional support when their parents are experiencing trying times. I don’t go to my children with my problems, but they should give a damn about my welfare.
Anonymous wrote:Yes, mom did that and I hated it. She told me I was her best friend, which I told her was sad. It was cruel of me to say, but it was wrong of her to put some of that sh*t on me.
Anonymous wrote:I'm an adult. My mother is very supportive of me, and I don't mind supporting her when she needs it.
She was nervous about something recently, and I gave her a pep talk and tried to make her feel more confident.
And we comforted each other when an older relative passed away recently.