“ MLS doesn't allow you to do more than 1 ID camp a year which is silly.”. Fake News

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Anonymous wrote:ECNL will also offer nothing or very little to your son once the high school season begins because they allow their players to play high school soccer. ECNL teams barely have enough kids to hold a practice, often needing to combine age groups, once high school soccer starts.

Interesting. Is this a common experience for ECNL parents U-15 and older? We are MLSNext and are considering switching clubs. The other club is ECNL (it just happens to be this way, we don't care whether it's MLSNext or ECNL).

Nope- love that my kid can play both club and HS. Once your kid is in high school it sucks to be prevented from playing for HS (not for the soccer, for the experience). Also once you get to HS, and assuming your kid wants to play college, you want some open time in spring for ID camps, showcases SATs etc. If you have games every weekend you have no time for that--plus MLS doesn't allow you to do more than 1 ID camp a year which is silly. For boys you pretty much have to do ID camps unless your kid is the top .001%.

Appreciate ECNL has flexibility and our coaches have all been quite strong (i.e. the MLS coaches aren't fundamentally different than ECNL coaches).

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Anonymous wrote:Looking for development from your club is not going to be successful. Choose the club that gives your kid the most visibility/opportunity and is convenient for your family life. The differences between the 3 MLSN HG clubs are not massive even though everyone wants to claim one or the other is "wayyy better". It's silly. Develop your player outside of the 3x 90 min sessions a week.

Each team has big variations in age groups. There are too many variables to say who is better.

Over the last 10 years, you can combine SYC, Alexandria and NVA’s pro’s and I think they are less than VDA and Arlington individually.

3 x 90 minute x 40 weeks puts you way behind a coach teaching soccer IQ principles. You are just not knowledgeable enough to know the differences in why certain clubs outproduce other clubs.

Sure thing. You keep banking on groundbreaking, brilliant coaches who (of course) conveniently are always at your child's age group. Let me guess...play out of the back? Move the ball? They play your kid a lot? Most teams are essentially playing the same way or trying to. We don't bank on any club providing what my kid needs for development...that I can see happening at an academy or overseas, but not in this environment. The only value that can come from club practice is if you train against good players in an intense environment. Find that in your age group and you are set.

We use multiple avenues to help develop our son outside of the club environment. He is one of the best players in the DMV so you keep doing you and we will carry on. Take care.

I am 100% sure he is. What age group? We are 2013. If it is close enough in age, I know the majority of the players. Let's keep receipts on your methodology.

Versus your methodology, which is “trust VDA”?

I encourage people to explore all of the clubs and coaches. Do your research. We are not with VDA but respect what their methodology is and their production record.

Anonymous wrote:No one's going to name their kid on this board full of weirdos.

I didn’t ask to name the kid and did not even ask for the club. I just asked just the age group.

Ask you can see, he/she bowed out pretty quickly which shows they are just talk. Easy to have confidence in extra private training. Everybody has that. That is the story of the DMV.

Our youth development system is completely wrong and it is funny that the loudest parents continue to co-sign it. Don’t say you did not get the knowledge though. Good luck to all 💋

Anonymous wrote:What is the amount of time a player has to spend at a club for the club to claim that they developed the player? Example: a player spends four years with one club, then two years with another club, then goes to an academy. What makes it possible for one of the clubs, especially the middle man, to claim that they produced a pro player?

In other countries, the club that has his rights. In this country: no one. Just you, the parent

It was/is for my kids. When everyone plays high school in the spring there is hardly anyone at practice and coaches were not showing up because there would be a combined 16-20 players from the high school aged teams at practice. This lasted the entire Spring and got to the point where my kids didn’t want to attend all four practices in a week because it was repetitive and not everyone was fully invested in the practices.

Anonymous wrote:No one's going to name their kid on this board full of weirdos.

The Instagram stalker

Anonymous wrote:ECNL will also offer nothing or very little to your son once the high school season begins because they allow their players to play high school soccer. ECNL teams barely have enough kids to hold a practice, often needing to combine age groups, once high school soccer starts.

Interesting. Is this a common experience for ECNL parents U-15 and older? We are MLSNext and are considering switching clubs. The other club is ECNL (it just happens to be this way, we don't care whether it's MLSNext or ECNL).

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Looking for development from your club is not going to be successful. Choose the club that gives your kid the most visibility/opportunity and is convenient for your family life. The differences between the 3 MLSN HG clubs are not massive even though everyone wants to claim one or the other is "wayyy better". It's silly. Develop your player outside of the 3x 90 min sessions a week.

Each team has big variations in age groups. There are too many variables to say who is better.

Over the last 10 years, you can combine SYC, Alexandria and NVA’s pro’s and I think they are less than VDA and Arlington individually.

3 x 90 minute x 40 weeks puts you way behind a coach teaching soccer IQ principles. You are just not knowledgeable enough to know the differences in why certain clubs outproduce other clubs.

Sure thing. You keep banking on groundbreaking, brilliant coaches who (of course) conveniently are always at your child's age group. Let me guess...play out of the back? Move the ball? They play your kid a lot? Most teams are essentially playing the same way or trying to. We don't bank on any club providing what my kid needs for development...that I can see happening at an academy or overseas, but not in this environment. The only value that can come from club practice is if you train against good players in an intense environment. Find that in your age group and you are set.

We use multiple avenues to help develop our son outside of the club environment. He is one of the best players in the DMV so you keep doing you and we will carry on. Take care.

I am 100% sure he is. What age group? We are 2013. If it is close enough in age, I know the majority of the players. Let's keep receipts on your methodology.

I don't care what your opinion is or what you believe. But you will know him soon. Have a great day.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Looking for development from your club is not going to be successful. Choose the club that gives your kid the most visibility/opportunity and is convenient for your family life. The differences between the 3 MLSN HG clubs are not massive even though everyone wants to claim one or the other is "wayyy better". It's silly. Develop your player outside of the 3x 90 min sessions a week.

Each team has big variations in age groups. There are too many variables to say who is better.

Over the last 10 years, you can combine SYC, Alexandria and NVA’s pro’s and I think they are less than VDA and Arlington individually.

3 x 90 minute x 40 weeks puts you way behind a coach teaching soccer IQ principles. You are just not knowledgeable enough to know the differences in why certain clubs outproduce other clubs.

Sure thing. You keep banking on groundbreaking, brilliant coaches who (of course) conveniently are always at your child's age group. Let me guess...play out of the back? Move the ball? They play your kid a lot? Most teams are essentially playing the same way or trying to. We don't bank on any club providing what my kid needs for development...that I can see happening at an academy or overseas, but not in this environment. The only value that can come from club practice is if you train against good players in an intense environment. Find that in your age group and you are set.

We use multiple avenues to help develop our son outside of the club environment. He is one of the best players in the DMV so you keep doing you and we will carry on. Take care.

I am 100% sure he is. What age group? We are 2013. If it is close enough in age, I know the majority of the players. Let's keep receipts on your methodology.

Versus your methodology, which is “trust VDA”?

No one's going to name their kid on this board full of weirdos.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Looking for development from your club is not going to be successful. Choose the club that gives your kid the most visibility/opportunity and is convenient for your family life. The differences between the 3 MLSN HG clubs are not massive even though everyone wants to claim one or the other is "wayyy better". It's silly. Develop your player outside of the 3x 90 min sessions a week.

Each team has big variations in age groups. There are too many variables to say who is better.

Over the last 10 years, you can combine SYC, Alexandria and NVA’s pro’s and I think they are less than VDA and Arlington individually.

3 x 90 minute x 40 weeks puts you way behind a coach teaching soccer IQ principles. You are just not knowledgeable enough to know the differences in why certain clubs outproduce other clubs.

Sure thing. You keep banking on groundbreaking, brilliant coaches who (of course) conveniently are always at your child's age group. Let me guess...play out of the back? Move the ball? They play your kid a lot? Most teams are essentially playing the same way or trying to. We don't bank on any club providing what my kid needs for development...that I can see happening at an academy or overseas, but not in this environment. The only value that can come from club practice is if you train against good players in an intense environment. Find that in your age group and you are set.

We use multiple avenues to help develop our son outside of the club environment. He is one of the best players in the DMV so you keep doing you and we will carry on. Take care.

I am 100% sure he is. What age group? We are 2013. If it is close enough in age, I know the majority of the players. Let's keep receipts on your methodology.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Looking for development from your club is not going to be successful. Choose the club that gives your kid the most visibility/opportunity and is convenient for your family life. The differences between the 3 MLSN HG clubs are not massive even though everyone wants to claim one or the other is "wayyy better". It's silly. Develop your player outside of the 3x 90 min sessions a week.

Each team has big variations in age groups. There are too many variables to say who is better.

Over the last 10 years, you can combine SYC, Alexandria and NVA’s pro’s and I think they are less than VDA and Arlington individually.

3 x 90 minute x 40 weeks puts you way behind a coach teaching soccer IQ principles. You are just not knowledgeable enough to know the differences in why certain clubs outproduce other clubs.

Sure thing. You keep banking on groundbreaking, brilliant coaches who (of course) conveniently are always at your child's age group. Let me guess...play out of the back? Move the ball? They play your kid a lot? Most teams are essentially playing the same way or trying to. We don't bank on any club providing what my kid needs for development...that I can see happening at an academy or overseas, but not in this environment. The only value that can come from club practice is if you train against good players in an intense environment. Find that in your age group and you are set.

We use multiple avenues to help develop our son outside of the club environment. He is one of the best players in the DMV so you keep doing you and we will carry on. Take care.