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Anonymous wrote:Please don't. That is against the entire point of the group. If my DD were participating, I'd be super pissed at you. You aren't respecting the purpose of this organization.

But won't someone think of the boooyyyyysssssss

/sarcasm

Someone in our third grade chat asked if there was a Boys on the Run. Bro....

I mean, in my kid’s elementary school, there in fact was no club for boys running. There was zero that was just for boys, but a lot that was just for girls. The boys notice, and you better be prepared for how you will explain it.

It's very easy to explain. If boys were allowed into "Girls on the Run" they would undermine the empowerment message and safe space for girls to build confidence and self-esteem in a girls-only environment. Boys don't need that sort of empowerment -- they are empowered by society and as they grow older they will internalize that in ways subtle and overt. This is also a useful lesson in what is equal and what is fair are not the same thing. No one is stopping them from running themselves or even organizing their own boys club to run if that's what they want to do. But any sense of entitlement that they should be allowed into a girls-only club only reinforces why that exclusive club exists in the first place.

that is a terrible explanation for a boy who doesn’t see the actual girls around him suffering from any kind of disadvantage.

It’s best if they overcome their cognitive dissonance when they are young. Otherwise they might grow up to be insufferable dipshits like Charlie Kirk.

Anonymous wrote:If I decided to start a boys’ exercise and “empowerment” club at my child’s school that specifically excluded girls, heads would roll. And before you say boys don’t need empowerment and emotional support, check the latest high school dropout rates, college attendance rates, suicide rates, and think again.

Heads would not roll. Eyes might, but not heads.

Why not test your theory instead of indulging in your straw man scenario?

Anonymous wrote:If I decided to start a boys’ exercise and “empowerment” club at my child’s school that specifically excluded girls, heads would roll. And before you say boys don’t need empowerment and emotional support, check the latest high school dropout rates, college attendance rates, suicide rates, and think again.

Won’t someone think of the boys?

/sarcasm

Anonymous wrote:Our school has Girls on the Run and Boys Gotta Run. Both are great. I don’t know if anyone had ever tried to enroll in the gender-opposite program.

NP. Many many schools only have GotR and no option is allowed for boys. That is the issue here.

There is one of these every season. Sad #boymoms upset that their boys don't "get the same opportunities as girls".

Our school has Girls on the Run and Boys Gotta Run. Both are great. I don’t know if anyone had ever tried to enroll in the gender-opposite program.

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Anonymous wrote:Please don't. That is against the entire point of the group. If my DD were participating, I'd be super pissed at you. You aren't respecting the purpose of this organization.

But won't someone think of the boooyyyyysssssss

/sarcasm

Someone in our third grade chat asked if there was a Boys on the Run. Bro....

I mean, in my kid’s elementary school, there in fact was no club for boys running. There was zero that was just for boys, but a lot that was just for girls. The boys notice, and you better be prepared for how you will explain it.

It's very easy to explain. If boys were allowed into "Girls on the Run" they would undermine the empowerment message and safe space for girls to build confidence and self-esteem in a girls-only environment. Boys don't need that sort of empowerment -- they are empowered by society and as they grow older they will internalize that in ways subtle and overt. This is also a useful lesson in what is equal and what is fair are not the same thing. No one is stopping them from running themselves or even organizing their own boys club to run if that's what they want to do. But any sense of entitlement that they should be allowed into a girls-only club only reinforces why that exclusive club exists in the first place.

This is not true for non-white boys.

It's fine to say it's just for girls. Many sports are that way in ES, by gender. But per PPs a lot of the rest rings hollow when you look at academic achievement by gender these days.

Sounds like it’s time for the 2 kids to have some separate interests before they get to middle school and you can’t place them in every class together.

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Anonymous wrote:No. And use the opportunity to help him understand the motivation behind programs like this for girls. If he is elementary age, he can understand it.

Sort of like Cub Scouts used to be just for boys, until parents of girls ruined that?

Cub scouts let girls in because they were in financial trouble and needed a way to boost membership. And no, it hasn't ruined it for the boys at all. -Mom of a (boy) Cub scout.

Of course it has. The entire premise of the organization changed. Just because you have told your son that it’s good and normal doesn’t mean that it is.

Literally none of the Scout laws have changed. And thinking that it's not "good and normal" because there were girls at Pinewood Derby today is pretty bonkers.

So why can’t boys be at GOTR then? The girls (and boys) can still get exercise and learn leadership skills. Just like by allowing girls into cub scouts, the boys can still race pinewood derby cars.

You can’t have it both ways and roll your eyes and say of course it’s fine to allow girls to join a boys only organization, and simultaneously insist boys can’t join a girls only organization.

Last time I checked, girls could do both Girl Scouts and cub scouts, but boys couldn’t do Girl Scouts. So the message here is that girls can do anything and boys cannot. Look at the best students, the leaders, the art competition winners, the class presidents in your child’s elementary school. Then tell me if it’s girls or boys who are losing their way and losing their sense of belonging right now.

Oh and check the suspension rate for girls vs boys while you’re at it.

Anonymous wrote:If I decided to start a boys’ exercise and “empowerment” club at my child’s school that specifically excluded girls, heads would roll. And before you say boys don’t need empowerment and emotional support, check the latest high school dropout rates, college attendance rates, suicide rates, and think again.

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If I decided to start a boys’ exercise and “empowerment” club at my child’s school that specifically excluded girls, heads would roll. And before you say boys don’t need empowerment and emotional support, check the latest high school dropout rates, college attendance rates, suicide rates, and think again.

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Anonymous wrote:No. And use the opportunity to help him understand the motivation behind programs like this for girls. If he is elementary age, he can understand it.

Sort of like Cub Scouts used to be just for boys, until parents of girls ruined that?

Cub scouts let girls in because they were in financial trouble and needed a way to boost membership. And no, it hasn't ruined it for the boys at all. -Mom of a (boy) Cub scout.

Of course it has. The entire premise of the organization changed. Just because you have told your son that it’s good and normal doesn’t mean that it is.

Literally none of the Scout laws have changed. And thinking that it's not "good and normal" because there were girls at Pinewood Derby today is pretty bonkers.

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Anonymous wrote:No. And use the opportunity to help him understand the motivation behind programs like this for girls. If he is elementary age, he can understand it.

Sort of like Cub Scouts used to be just for boys, until parents of girls ruined that?

Cub scouts let girls in because they were in financial trouble and needed a way to boost membership. And no, it hasn't ruined it for the boys at all. -Mom of a (boy) Cub scout.

Of course it has. The entire premise of the organization changed. Just because you have told your son that it’s good and normal doesn’t mean that it is.

And stop making class requests

No, and you will be shamed and reviled for even suggesting that boys have the opportunity to enter such a program.

Then slide yourself over to the college & university forum where they are crying because they'll never have grandchildren because after 13 years of advancing the "girls rule, boys drool" mentality there somehow aren't any eligible men to marry.

You can't lift up one group by pushing another down.