Anonymous wrote:I also think there is an economic equality question here - AP tests allow students at many colleges to skip intro level classes. In an era where private college tuition is north of $75k in many instances, each credit saved is real $$. If GDS actually cared about parents/students and wanted to allow them this opportunity, it would not have added this barrier to taking AP tests (note: I am not talking about AP classes, just the 2 weeks in May where the tests are administered on campus instead of how it is now w/ parents and students having to coordinate with local public schools to go take these tests)
Anonymous wrote:I can understand not offering 20+ APs but there is some value in placing out of some of the core classes the first year. Maxing out at 5-6 core classes seems like a sane balance. Have also heard of schools offering the 20+ APs, but limiting students to 6 as a way to not penalize students for not taking the most rigorous schedule.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I just responded on another post, but I’ll say it again here. Most private schools have stopped offering APs in many cases because they don’t want to report the scores. They will say it is because they want to be able to be flexible and nimble and innovative, and not teach a specific curriculum to a test. But it is also a well-known fact that private school teachers often have no certification or training and so having a clear rigorous curriculum with milestones and Tess is actually a good thing. College is due value APs as well. They are objective and the world is going to go back to prioritizing standardized, test, and scores on them. I think it would be good for private schools to offer a piece again, and it would certainly help lower income students who would like to transfer college credit and spend less in college.
If there were only someplace where a kid of high school age could go, perhaps for free, and take all the AP courses they wanted.
Ha, best answer I've seen in a while.
Seriously though, nothing has been worse for education in the US in general than teachers being forced to teach to tests, and being evaluated by how well their students do on standardized tests. It's the curse of our entire system, so I think it's great for a school to trust their teachers instead.
Except when those teachers have no training and no curriculum. This is why some schools have students reading 1 book and writing no essays in 8th grade. That is what I heard about Maret's 8th grade last year. The teacher "redid" the book list and assignments.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I just responded on another post, but I’ll say it again here. Most private schools have stopped offering APs in many cases because they don’t want to report the scores. They will say it is because they want to be able to be flexible and nimble and innovative, and not teach a specific curriculum to a test. But it is also a well-known fact that private school teachers often have no certification or training and so having a clear rigorous curriculum with milestones and Tess is actually a good thing. College is due value APs as well. They are objective and the world is going to go back to prioritizing standardized, test, and scores on them. I think it would be good for private schools to offer a piece again, and it would certainly help lower income students who would like to transfer college credit and spend less in college.
If there were only someplace where a kid of high school age could go, perhaps for free, and take all the AP courses they wanted.
Ha, best answer I've seen in a while.
Seriously though, nothing has been worse for education in the US in general than teachers being forced to teach to tests, and being evaluated by how well their students do on standardized tests. It's the curse of our entire system, so I think it's great for a school to trust their teachers instead.
Except when those teachers have no training and no curriculum. This is why some schools have students reading 1 book and writing no essays in 8th grade. That is what I heard about Maret's 8th grade last year. The teacher "redid" the book list and assignments.
Then that's on the school to sort out. Or pick a school that's better at that. Switching back to AP's simply lets someone else set the curriculum, and if that's the goal, and you want the AP curriculum across the board, then you may as well send you kid to public.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:By not supporting its students who want to take AP exams, GDS reveals how little they care for the few students on their campus who would materially benefit from being able to get college credit/placement and save some money on tuition.
What does "not supporting" look like? We're at a school that does offer APs, plus makes it relatively simple to take the exam for accelerated-type classes even if they're not officially AP classes.
Anonymous wrote:How common is it for students at GDS high school to take AP exams? We are new there in 10th grade and the college counselor says it doesn't make a difference in college applications because GDS does not offer AP classes nor prep students for the AP exams. To take it, a student would have to prepare for it outside of school. They seem to discourage it. I was just wondering if most kids get prep and do it anyway if they are taking an UL or Honors course in an AP subject? Do they actually get the extra prep to cover the content? Seems like a lot of extra work and cost. And does it really not make a difference to not have taken any AP classes in college applications?
I know a GDS student who intended to major in economics … He self-studied for the AP Economics exams, took them, and scored competitively. Also, he completed a challenging college-level economics course online that he enjoyed a lot. He felt these experiences were worthwhile. Since he was admitted ED to his top-choice university, I don’t know how much they helped with admissions. They certainly solidified and expanded his interests.
At peer schools, I know a few “A” students who self-studied for and took AP exams in STEM fields. Given the rigor of their courses plus grades and references, I felt they didn’t need to. A few students may not feel they did their best in an at-school course, and, therefore, may benefit from submitting a score on a corresponding AP exam or and/other evidence of their mastery of material.
Independent counselor
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If you want to study abroad, you need AP classes (or IB). Not relevant for many people, but I know some that realized too late that they wanted their kids to study abroad, but couldn’t because of no AP classes.
The decision to study abroad should be the kid’s not the parents.
I studied abroad and had zero AP credits. I took 1 AP exam (Latin).