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Anonymous wrote:It's like Chicago, but not controversial, so nothing to discuss.

I don’t think either are controversial, since neither of these ED1 and ED2 schools are top 10 schools. (Yes, I know Chicago also has ED0, EA, and ED3 - don’t want to sell it short.)

ED3? Please. No matter what, you rankings-obsessed parents manage to bring up Chicago. It's actually laughable. And the entire time, its just the same old tired argument that ED rounds negates an entire school's academic merit. You see institutions solely through the lens of their admissions. Chicago & Hopkins are T10 schools. Argue with the wall, Towson alumna.

Not top 10. Because it isn't better than Ivies, Duke, MIT or Cal Tech. So that is already 11. I could argue with you about a few others as well but those are non-negotiable. I would personally choose Vandy or Northwestern over Hopkins but those two are definitely subject to debate and I wouldn't die on that hill.

You're a troll. Give it a rest. While I didn't go there, I had multiple ivy + hopkins as a choice and have chosen hopkins over lower ivies for stem easily. Especially for engineering and physics which is shit at Dartmouth and Brown.

Saying the school is top 15 and not top 10 does not make me a troll. That is far from an insult. And many of us don't see a school solely through the lens of STEM. This obsession with STEM and only STEM is part of the problem a lot of people have with Hopkins. If I'm that obsessed with those areas and want to be surrounded with people like that, I would go to MIT or Cal Tech. No brainer.

I don't want to go to school with all kids who are just STEM types. No thanks. That applies to both STEM kids and non-STEM kids.

People who didn't go to top colleges don't get this. There is more to the experience than the school that has the best science resources. I know it is a huge financial investment but your kids deserve better.

I don't want a doctor who is some STEM obsessed robot. The best doctors who treat me and my family went to Columbia, Duke, Middlebury, Williams and Princeton for undergrad.

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Anonymous wrote:It's like Chicago, but not controversial, so nothing to discuss.

I don’t think either are controversial, since neither of these ED1 and ED2 schools are top 10 schools. (Yes, I know Chicago also has ED0, EA, and ED3 - don’t want to sell it short.)

ED3? Please. No matter what, you rankings-obsessed parents manage to bring up Chicago. It's actually laughable. And the entire time, its just the same old tired argument that ED rounds negates an entire school's academic merit. You see institutions solely through the lens of their admissions. Chicago & Hopkins are T10 schools. Argue with the wall, Towson alumna.

Not top 10. Because it isn't better than Ivies, Duke, MIT or Cal Tech. So that is already 11. I could argue with you about a few others as well but those are non-negotiable. I would personally choose Vandy or Northwestern over Hopkins but those two are definitely subject to debate and I wouldn't die on that hill.

Good thing you can't turn back time to your peak high school days 45 years ago. And choosing Vandy or Northwestern over Hopkins just tells us that you're unacademic.

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Anonymous wrote:It's like Chicago, but not controversial, so nothing to discuss.

I don’t think either are controversial, since neither of these ED1 and ED2 schools are top 10 schools. (Yes, I know Chicago also has ED0, EA, and ED3 - don’t want to sell it short.)

ED3? Please. No matter what, you rankings-obsessed parents manage to bring up Chicago. It's actually laughable. And the entire time, its just the same old tired argument that ED rounds negates an entire school's academic merit. You see institutions solely through the lens of their admissions. Chicago & Hopkins are T10 schools. Argue with the wall, Towson alumna.

Not top 10. Because it isn't better than Ivies, Duke, MIT or Cal Tech. So that is already 11. I could argue with you about a few others as well but those are non-negotiable. I would personally choose Vandy or Northwestern over Hopkins but those two are definitely subject to debate and I wouldn't die on that hill.

You're a troll. Give it a rest. While I didn't go there, I had multiple ivy + hopkins as a choice and have chosen hopkins over lower ivies for stem easily. Especially for engineering and physics which is shit at Dartmouth and Brown.

Saying the school is top 15 and not top 10 does not make me a troll. That is far from an insult. And many of us don't see a school solely through the lens of STEM. This obsession with STEM and only STEM is part of the problem a lot of people have with Hopkins. If I'm that obsessed with those areas and want to be surrounded with people like that, I would go to MIT or Cal Tech. No brainer.

I don't want to go to school with all kids who are just STEM types. No thanks. That applies to both STEM kids and non-STEM kids.

People who didn't go to top colleges don't get this. There is more to the experience than the school that has the best science resources. I know it is a huge financial investment but your kids deserve better.

I don't want a doctor who is some STEM obsessed robot. The best doctors who treat me and my family went to Columbia, Duke, Middlebury, Williams and Princeton for undergrad.

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Anonymous wrote:It is not top 10. Perhaps USN&WR ranks it as such, but it is not. It is definitely top 20. Maybe even top 15. Which is still great.

To that point, I think it has an "Ivy backup" complex. And again, there is absolutely no shame in that. But not a lot of people aspire to go there. It is more like "I'm super risk averse and don't think I can make an Ivy so I will ED to JHU."

I know someone in their early 40s who was not pre-med and is a very nice, fun, interesting person who had a great experience there and has gone on to do very well. So the "grinder Asian pre-med" stereotype is not totally accurate. But it is not based on nothing.

You sound like a miserable shrew. I wonder what that others think of you. Probably not much at all.

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Anonymous wrote:It's like Chicago, but not controversial, so nothing to discuss.

I don’t think either are controversial, since neither of these ED1 and ED2 schools are top 10 schools. (Yes, I know Chicago also has ED0, EA, and ED3 - don’t want to sell it short.)

ED3? Please. No matter what, you rankings-obsessed parents manage to bring up Chicago. It's actually laughable. And the entire time, its just the same old tired argument that ED rounds negates an entire school's academic merit. You see institutions solely through the lens of their admissions. Chicago & Hopkins are T10 schools. Argue with the wall, Towson alumna.

Not top 10. Because it isn't better than Ivies, Duke, MIT or Cal Tech. So that is already 11. I could argue with you about a few others as well but those are non-negotiable. I would personally choose Vandy or Northwestern over Hopkins but those two are definitely subject to debate and I wouldn't die on that hill.

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Anonymous wrote:It's like Chicago, but not controversial, so nothing to discuss.

I don’t think either are controversial, since neither of these ED1 and ED2 schools are top 10 schools. (Yes, I know Chicago also has ED0, EA, and ED3 - don’t want to sell it short.)

ED3? Please. No matter what, you rankings-obsessed parents manage to bring up Chicago. It's actually laughable. And the entire time, its just the same old tired argument that ED rounds negates an entire school's academic merit. You see institutions solely through the lens of their admissions. Chicago & Hopkins are T10 schools. Argue with the wall, Towson alumna.

Not top 10. Because it isn't better than Ivies, Duke, MIT or Cal Tech. So that is already 11. I could argue with you about a few others as well but those are non-negotiable. I would personally choose Vandy or Northwestern over Hopkins but those two are definitely subject to debate and I wouldn't die on that hill.

You're a troll. Give it a rest. While I didn't go there, I had multiple ivy + hopkins as a choice and have chosen hopkins over lower ivies for stem easily. Especially for engineering and physics which is shit at Dartmouth and Brown.

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Anonymous wrote:It's like Chicago, but not controversial, so nothing to discuss.

I don’t think either are controversial, since neither of these ED1 and ED2 schools are top 10 schools. (Yes, I know Chicago also has ED0, EA, and ED3 - don’t want to sell it short.)

ED3? Please. No matter what, you rankings-obsessed parents manage to bring up Chicago. It's actually laughable. And the entire time, its just the same old tired argument that ED rounds negates an entire school's academic merit. You see institutions solely through the lens of their admissions. Chicago & Hopkins are T10 schools. Argue with the wall, Towson alumna.

Not top 10. Because it isn't better than Ivies, Duke, MIT or Cal Tech. So that is already 11. I could argue with you about a few others as well but those are non-negotiable. I would personally choose Vandy or Northwestern over Hopkins but those two are definitely subject to debate and I wouldn't die on that hill.

UChicago is far better than Cornell, Dartmouth, and Brown. I would say better than Duke too, but theyre about equal.

Anonymous wrote:It is not top 10. Perhaps USN&WR ranks it as such, but it is not. It is definitely top 20. Maybe even top 15. Which is still great.

To that point, I think it has an "Ivy backup" complex. And again, there is absolutely no shame in that. But not a lot of people aspire to go there. It is more like "I'm super risk averse and don't think I can make an Ivy so I will ED to JHU."

I know someone in their early 40s who was not pre-med and is a very nice, fun, interesting person who had a great experience there and has gone on to do very well. So the "grinder Asian pre-med" stereotype is not totally accurate. But it is not based on nothing.

Anonymous wrote:I went to Hopkins and took my kid there (TJ student) and he was luke warm to it.

They explicitly said in the admissions presentation that children of divorced or broken families were not welcome which was very shocking to me.

The campus feels more secure than when I went there. I was a TA and student advisor for one of their more "cut throat" programs and it didn't feel cut throat to me (compared to my HYPSM experience). The research opportunities are top notch, music, business and medicine are too.

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Anonymous wrote:It's like Chicago, but not controversial, so nothing to discuss.

I don’t think either are controversial, since neither of these ED1 and ED2 schools are top 10 schools. (Yes, I know Chicago also has ED0, EA, and ED3 - don’t want to sell it short.)

ED3? Please. No matter what, you rankings-obsessed parents manage to bring up Chicago. It's actually laughable. And the entire time, its just the same old tired argument that ED rounds negates an entire school's academic merit. You see institutions solely through the lens of their admissions. Chicago & Hopkins are T10 schools. Argue with the wall, Towson alumna.

Not top 10. Because it isn't better than Ivies, Duke, MIT or Cal Tech. So that is already 11. I could argue with you about a few others as well but those are non-negotiable. I would personally choose Vandy or Northwestern over Hopkins but those two are definitely subject to debate and I wouldn't die on that hill.

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Anonymous wrote:It's like Chicago, but not controversial, so nothing to discuss.

I don’t think either are controversial, since neither of these ED1 and ED2 schools are top 10 schools. (Yes, I know Chicago also has ED0, EA, and ED3 - don’t want to sell it short.)

So if USNWR drops Chicago to the #12 spot, will the Chicago-haters move on? Is this the entire issue that people are so upset about, that a school with multiple ED options made the top 10, probably for a year? Wow.

You think it’s that high? I don’t. JHU isn’t top 10 and JHU is definitely a tougher admit than Chicago ED.

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Anonymous wrote:It's like Chicago, but not controversial, so nothing to discuss.

I don’t think either are controversial, since neither of these ED1 and ED2 schools are top 10 schools. (Yes, I know Chicago also has ED0, EA, and ED3 - don’t want to sell it short.)

So if USNWR drops Chicago to the #12 spot, will the Chicago-haters move on? Is this the entire issue that people are so upset about, that a school with multiple ED options made the top 10, probably for a year? Wow.

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Anonymous wrote:It's like Chicago, but not controversial, so nothing to discuss.

I don’t think either are controversial, since neither of these ED1 and ED2 schools are top 10 schools. (Yes, I know Chicago also has ED0, EA, and ED3 - don’t want to sell it short.)

ED3? Please. No matter what, you rankings-obsessed parents manage to bring up Chicago. It's actually laughable. And the entire time, its just the same old tired argument that ED rounds negates an entire school's academic merit. You see institutions solely through the lens of their admissions. Chicago & Hopkins are T10 schools. Argue with the wall, Towson alumna.

Not top 10. Because it isn't better than Ivies, Duke, MIT or Cal Tech. So that is already 11. I could argue with you about a few others as well but those are non-negotiable. I would personally choose Vandy or Northwestern over Hopkins but those two are definitely subject to debate and I wouldn't die on that hill.

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Anonymous wrote:It's like Chicago, but not controversial, so nothing to discuss.

I don’t think either are controversial, since neither of these ED1 and ED2 schools are top 10 schools. (Yes, I know Chicago also has ED0, EA, and ED3 - don’t want to sell it short.)

So if USNWR drops Chicago to the #12 spot, will the Chicago-haters move on? Is this the entire issue that people are so upset about, that a school with multiple ED options made the top 10, probably for a year? Wow.