Anonymous wrote:How did Obama deport so many people without needing to do this?

Supposedly, this was due to record numbers at the border (we know this part is true), and many (proportionally) turned away which was counted as a “deportation” instead of “entry denial”. I don’t know whether the latter is correct.

Anonymous wrote:Just what Hagerstown needs, a whole bunch of detained legal and undocumented immigrants who are released, have no money on them, and now can't afford to travel back to their homes in the US or abroad and are stuck in Hagerstown.

Maybe it is exactly what Hagerstown needs. They voted for a show, they can have it right in their own front yards.

Just what Hagerstown needs, a whole bunch of detained legal and undocumented immigrants who are released, have no money on them, and now can't afford to travel back to their homes in the US or abroad and are stuck in Hagerstown.

Baltimore Sun reporting that Howard County government revoked a building permit Monday that had been issued for a planned federal immigration detention facility in Elkridge, County Executive Calvin Ball announced Monday.

The detention center has been under construction in a former warehouse building in an office park at 6522 Meadowridge Road in Elkridge, according to Ball, who proposed emergency legislation late Friday to block permitting in the county for privately owned buildings to operate as detention centers.

What do they needs beds for if they can shoot anyone they want?

That’s what they want right? They want to pretend they are in a video game war…

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Anonymous wrote:How did Obama deport so many people without needing to do this?

He has more than a room temperature IQ, and surrounded himself with competent people.

I remember when federal officials were forced out for detaining Obama's Aunt who was here illegally.

This is false. Nobody was "forced out"

Zeituni Onyango’s case moved through the immigration courts the same way thousands of asylum cases do: an initial denial, years of appeals, and ultimately a judge granting asylum in 2010. No DHS or ICE officials were fired, reassigned, or pressured over her file; there isn’t a single credible report, whistleblower claim, or inspector general finding to support that narrative. The only irregularity was the leak of her confidential case during the 2008 campaign, which investigators traced to internal misconduct, not political protection. Using her situation as supposed evidence of corruption or hypocrisy ignores the documented facts and replaces them with a conspiracy theory that never materialized.

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Anonymous wrote:How did Obama deport so many people without needing to do this?

I've been around law enforcement for almost 35 years -- there was backlash against Obama when he took office and adopted "Secure Communities" to significantly expand deportation. It was his program that automatically checks everyone's fingerprints in local jails to identify individuals violating immigration law. Because of the backlash, the federal government switched Security Communitites to a "Priority Enforcement Program," which just targeted the worst offenders. Trump overturned that in 2016 and it's gone downhill ever since.

There are definitely some bad actors we need to get out of the country. But they are such a small minority of all undocumented immigrants. And they are known to law enforcement. The huge resource dump we've put into this is ridiculous. The inhumane tactics we use are unspeakable.

Exactly. Most Americans, including most Democrats are not opposed to deporting violent criminals - the rapists, murderers and so on. But that's not what's going on. Instead we see US citizens being shot, we see little 5 year old children in bunny hats being detained. We see warrantless invasions of homes and businesses, we see ICE behaving brutally, violently and lawlessly, and we see endless lies about it all from this administration. It's awful and it needs to stop.

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Anonymous wrote:Ok what's the alternative? They need to go somewhere?

If they’ve committed a violent crime, they should already be in jail or prison same as if a citizen did it. If their only offense is being in the country illegally, deport them right away. There’s no reason to round up nonviolent offenders and store them in a warehouse like chattel.

The problem is that the lib judges won't let ice deport right away they keep stopping them. So to avoid having to reimport the illegals for phony trials they need to house them here and wait for the stupid trials.

They should make a ruling that there is no need for due process for illegals that would fix all these and then they can fly them out immediately no need for detainment

No due process? So, how exactly do you suggest that legal status be determined without some sort of formal due process? Are you, like Kavanaugh, comfortable with some untrained ICE agent using their own judgement being the sole determinant? Papers don’t matter as long as ICE decides that someone looks “illegal” to them?

Anonymous wrote:I think I read someplace they're also setting up detention centers in central Virginia, possibly the Richmond area.

Hagerstown has turned into a crime-ridden hellscape. Commerce has left that area. There's a big jail complex just outside of town. When inmates get released, they often linger in the area. That jail system has really hurt that town. If something isn't nailed down, it gets stolen. Residents are not amused, but what can they do?

Maybe Van Hollen can turn his attention to ongoing crime in Hagerstown in addition to "sexy" news like a detention centers for illegal aliens. Taxpayers could really use a helping hand from someone they elected to office. So far - zero, zilch, nada, nothing. But he sure was eager to help Abrego-Garcia, an MS-13 gang banger.

Do you have a cite for the gang banger charge? Or does it just feel good to make stuff up on a Saturday night?

Anonymous wrote:Is there a way to find out what companies sold or leased them the warehouse space. I would like to know which companies are this sick and despicable. I assume it’s public record?

This article has more info on who sold it https://www.wypr.org/wypr-news/2026-01-27/dhs-buys-warehouse-in-maryland-to-possibly-hold-detained-immigrants

And apparently the holding company has the same address as RSE Capital which seems to have an office in DuPont Circle: https://www.rsecap.com/

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Anonymous wrote:Ok what's the alternative? They need to go somewhere?

If they’ve committed a violent crime, they should already be in jail or prison same as if a citizen did it. If their only offense is being in the country illegally, deport them right away. There’s no reason to round up nonviolent offenders and store them in a warehouse like chattel.

The problem is that the lib judges won't let ice deport right away they keep stopping them. So to avoid having to reimport the illegals for phony trials they need to house them here and wait for the stupid trials.

They should make a ruling that there is no need for due process for illegals that would fix all these and then they can fly them out immediately no need for detainment

Change the constitution then. But in the meantime, rounding people in concentration camps is not a solution.

You should not want the government to be able to just “make a ruling” to take away a constitutional right.

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Anonymous wrote:Ok what's the alternative? They need to go somewhere?

If they’ve committed a violent crime, they should already be in jail or prison same as if a citizen did it. If their only offense is being in the country illegally, deport them right away. There’s no reason to round up nonviolent offenders and store them in a warehouse like chattel.

The problem is that the lib judges won't let ice deport right away they keep stopping them. So to avoid having to reimport the illegals for phony trials they need to house them here and wait for the stupid trials.

They should make a ruling that there is no need for due process for illegals that would fix all these and then they can fly them out immediately no need for detainment

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Anonymous wrote:Ok what's the alternative? They need to go somewhere?

If they’ve committed a violent crime, they should already be in jail or prison same as if a citizen did it. If their only offense is being in the country illegally, deport them right away. There’s no reason to round up nonviolent offenders and store them in a warehouse like chattel.

As always with Republicans today, the cruelty is the point. Not efficiency. Not good policy. Not what works. The opportunity to be cruel is the driving energy of MAGA Republicans.

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Anonymous wrote:Hanover VA has convinced the Canadian company not to sell to ICE.

Looks like Hagerstown is going to get one of these "warehouses" / camps and probably get more immigrants who are actually here legally released on the streets with no money and no way to get home.

I live here and I swear the warehouse was built specifically for ICE. It was recently completed. It's owned by Canadian billionaire Jim Pattison, who also owns "Great Wolf Lodge" locations. Local reaction was strong and the Board of Supervisors voted ICE down on the theory that there would be too much drain on local law enforcement and it's in a retail/residential area. Protestors repeatedly called Pattison's company in Vancouver. He backed out of the sale but probably not out of the goodness of his heart. I'd be interested to know whether he's built other warehouses for ICE. News articles are making Pattison sound benevolent while he sounds like the Canadian Trump. His name is on everything.
https://www.jimpattison.com/

I'm also in the area and while I was happy to hear the Hanover Board of Supervisors voted against the project, it was mainly on the premise of the use of the warehouse didn't fit the area. And it didn't. It's right across from a Bass Pro Shop. There are hotels and even townhouses on the same road just about in viewing distance. It would have been a mess. But, Hanover did sound like, if you find a better location, well, then, ok. I just saw that the owner has decided not to sell to the Feds, so we will see.

The warehouse was built to be a distribution center for some sort of food packaging company and then that fell through. I do believe that there are still plans for a MASSIVE location in Stafford - Hanover in 500k SQFT was to hold 1500. The Stafford location is 10k detainees!

The protests against this were pretty large - there were hundreds outside of the Board of Supervisors meeting when their oppostition was released. Pretty nice to see.