Anonymous wrote:A couple of my daughter's friends begged to shovel our driveway. DH had already cleared it on Sunday, but there was an inch or inch and a half of packed sleet left. Although we didn't need it (have 4WDs), we agreed. It took two older teens, 7 hours (including breaks), and they did about 2/3rds of it. What they did, they did really well, so although the agreed upon price was $300, I paid $400. It was backbreaking work.
Anonymous wrote:I would never hire a teen.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My teen is getting 20$/hr (and some tips.) But he said some of his other friends are charging 50$/house (which is bizarre to me because houses are all different sizes) which ends up being 50$/hr.
Many people's houses take more than an hour.
My kids have discovered that if they let the person paying pick the price, it's almost always more than they would have felt comfortable asking for. This year, in particular, people are very generous.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My teen is getting 20$/hr (and some tips.) But he said some of his other friends are charging 50$/house (which is bizarre to me because houses are all different sizes) which ends up being 50$/hr.
Many people's houses take more than an hour.
My kids have discovered that if they let the person paying pick the price, it's almost always more than they would have felt comfortable asking for. This year, in particular, people are very generous.
And many people’s houses take far less than an hour-particularly if you don’t live in Exurblandia with McMansions. I do agree that letting people decide what to pay is typically more generous that what a teenager should expect.
But there are exceptions. My poor kid ended up getting 10$ after shoveling a house for an hour for an elderly neighbor last year. It’s not always that people are generous and elderly people in particular sometimes have a frame of reference from 30 years ago.
Elderly people are also often on fixed incomes. Honestly, I shovel my elderly's neighbor for free because I'm neighborly.
Young people are on fixed incomes too, and those incomes pay elderly fixed incomes
If you are a teen going door to door shoveling, that's the opposite of fixed income.
Also, the young people are almost certainly not paying taxes on the cash they get for snow shoveling, so they are not paying for the elderly.
That doesn’t mean that old people should pay young people 10$/hr for work they don’t want to do. Unless they’re senile they should know the prevailing wage is higher.
How would they know? Or, be decent and just do it.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My teen is getting 20$/hr (and some tips.) But he said some of his other friends are charging 50$/house (which is bizarre to me because houses are all different sizes) which ends up being 50$/hr.
Many people's houses take more than an hour.
My kids have discovered that if they let the person paying pick the price, it's almost always more than they would have felt comfortable asking for. This year, in particular, people are very generous.
And many people’s houses take far less than an hour-particularly if you don’t live in Exurblandia with McMansions. I do agree that letting people decide what to pay is typically more generous that what a teenager should expect.
But there are exceptions. My poor kid ended up getting 10$ after shoveling a house for an hour for an elderly neighbor last year. It’s not always that people are generous and elderly people in particular sometimes have a frame of reference from 30 years ago.
Elderly people are also often on fixed incomes. Honestly, I shovel my elderly's neighbor for free because I'm neighborly.
Young people are on fixed incomes too, and those incomes pay elderly fixed incomes
If you are a teen going door to door shoveling, that's the opposite of fixed income.
Also, the young people are almost certainly not paying taxes on the cash they get for snow shoveling, so they are not paying for the elderly.
That doesn’t mean that old people should pay young people 10$/hr for work they don’t want to do. Unless they’re senile they should know the prevailing wage is higher.
How would they know? Or, be decent and just do it.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My teen is getting 20$/hr (and some tips.) But he said some of his other friends are charging 50$/house (which is bizarre to me because houses are all different sizes) which ends up being 50$/hr.
Many people's houses take more than an hour.
My kids have discovered that if they let the person paying pick the price, it's almost always more than they would have felt comfortable asking for. This year, in particular, people are very generous.
And many people’s houses take far less than an hour-particularly if you don’t live in Exurblandia with McMansions. I do agree that letting people decide what to pay is typically more generous that what a teenager should expect.
But there are exceptions. My poor kid ended up getting 10$ after shoveling a house for an hour for an elderly neighbor last year. It’s not always that people are generous and elderly people in particular sometimes have a frame of reference from 30 years ago.
Elderly people are also often on fixed incomes. Honestly, I shovel my elderly's neighbor for free because I'm neighborly.
Young people are on fixed incomes too, and those incomes pay elderly fixed incomes
If you are a teen going door to door shoveling, that's the opposite of fixed income.
Also, the young people are almost certainly not paying taxes on the cash they get for snow shoveling, so they are not paying for the elderly.
That doesn’t mean that old people should pay young people 10$/hr for work they don’t want to do. Unless they’re senile they should know the prevailing wage is higher.