Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My husband is from Minnesota. He shoveled first thing yesterday morning then again around 2pm, then salted. We still have a glacier of ice in the driveway. He has been out there for 3 hours this morning chipping away at it. He has given up on clearing anything except the driveway (no sidewalk, sorry).
With all due respect, MN snow isn't like this icy, wet mid-atlantic snow
Anonymous wrote:Ok good to know, I felt like an idiot when I got up this morning, and it looked like I had never shoveled and all my neighbors’ walks were cleared already. I salted early because I was afraid that there would be too much accumulation and it would freeze to the ground, and I wouldn’t be able to shovel it at all. I’m a hospital worker and so my shifts are 12 hours: I was worried about what I would come home and find. But duly noted. Pretty sure there’s nowhere to get ice melt now so I’m totally out and crossing fingers since it will be cold this week.
Anonymous wrote:Michigander here. This was a very difficult storm for shoveling. If you missed the Sunday am shovel, you were toast, but most people woudn't know that.
I did a light salt layer day before. Out early to shovel Sunday morning when snow was soft and fluffy (still a lot of it). And then two other shovels throughout the day. 2 inches of a sleet layer feels like 6-8 in snow. It's so flipping heavy.
I've lived here 10+ yrs now. The sleet is unusual but so is the week of no thaw after. Up north, you have to make your plan for weeks at a time. Here, it's not usually that critical, because it melts off once we warm back up. Just not happening this time.
TLDR: Midwesterners grant you grace, this storm was tough to get right!
Anonymous wrote:There was no win-win for this one, OP.
Here's the gist:
1. Use the appropriate salt chemical for appropriate temperatures. It's too cold for pet-friendly crystals You have to use sodium chloride, effective until 15F (and we're mostly at that temp), or the more toxic calcium chloride (effective until well below 0F). You can use coarse sand for traction.
2. If more than a couple of inches are in the forecast, you never salt beforehand, since salt cannot melt tons of snow. You salt right after shoveling, and by shoveling, I mean when you hit pavement, so they don't become icy when snow melt refreezes.
3. When conditions are difficult like yesterday, it's better to shovel a little portion at a time and salt that, before going on to the next portion.
4. But here precipitation lasted 20hrs or so, with fast accumulation at times. If you went out at the wrong time, it was impossible to get to bare pavement and salt.
5. So you need to adapt to the event you have, carefully listen to last minute forecasts by actual met offices (not random influencers on social media) and have a stock of everything early in winter just in case.
6. For this storm, many chose not to shovel at all. If you know you need to get out right after the storm, you park your car at the very edge of your driveway, shovel what you can, salt if you get to bare pavement, or put down sand, and don't forget to clean the roof of your car. If you have sidewalks, you must legally clear them, but lots of people don't.
Anonymous wrote:We didn't put down salt first and we didn't shovel until this morning.
There was a hard 3'' layer of crust on the top, which was hard to break through and really heavy.
My method was to crouch down and physically chunk off huge pieces of the crust and heave it to the side of the driveway. Like pizza box sized chunks. I'd do that for 10 linear feet or so for the whole driveway then shovel the soft snow underneath. I feel ok now, but we'll see how my back feels tomorrow. My forearms aren't buff enough to shovel the heavy stuff. My DH did ok with shoveling it all in one swoop though, and he's finishing while I'm on calls.
Anonymous wrote:My husband is from Minnesota. He shoveled first thing yesterday morning then again around 2pm, then salted. We still have a glacier of ice in the driveway. He has been out there for 3 hours this morning chipping away at it. He has given up on clearing anything except the driveway (no sidewalk, sorry).
Anonymous wrote:I shoveled for the first time this morning. It was a breeze. Break up the crust with feet or shovel, lift away with fluffy snow underneath. Reminded me of cutting a cake with thick fondant. The sun is already melting where I shoveled so no need for sand, salt, or anything