Instead of name calling or being "tough," maybe Ds should re-think stuff like the following. Then they might have a long-term chance.

- letting illegal immigrants enter and stay
- affirmative action
- ignoring middle america
- teaching elementary and middle school kids about gay and trans stuff

Instead, they can focus on making sure everyone in america has economic opportunity and worker protections, access to high quality schools, access to good health care, good infrastructure, and national security.

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Anonymous wrote:These threads are so transparent. Trump starts foundering, threatens to steal an island, and confuses Norway for Denmark, and we get a thread about how Democrats are weak.

Do you think no one sees through the grift?

I don't disagree that these are generally attempts to move attention away from whatever stupid/atrocious/evil thing this administration is doing, but one cannot argue with the premise that Democrats ARE weak.

I don't know how it is that Democrats can't get anything done when they're the majority party because of Republican obstruction, but the Republicans can get shit done when they're the majority party even when their margins are identical. This I believe is why the approval ratings of Democratic party is abysmal. Because people like me who consistently vote D still do not approve of the party, and especially its leadership. The old guard needs to step down so some flamethrowers can be in charge. Obviously, the R approvals would be subterranean with us.

Yes, this. Trump has shown us Sh*t can get done. The bipartisan Obamacare has failed to curtail costs (for both the individual as well as the healthcare system as a whole) or produce healthier outcomes (Americans are more unhealthy than ever). The next time we have the Presidency and Congress I hope we have the courage to make change

I’m sorry, but what has Trump done to improve health care costs? Illegal deals with big pharma that lower prices for no one and expire in a year don’t count.

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Anonymous wrote:Democrats are a rather diverse lot but at least they pro democracy. Can’t say that about the GOP. Also the democrats don’t want to take Greenland, Venezuela, or start WW3.

Aren't Democrats eager to fight Russia?

Democrats want to defend freedom. That's why they worked to isolate the former Soviet Union (and seriously let's stop pretending Russia hasn't regressed back to that) and China. But they never needed to make threats to intimidate anyone.

Everything just ran smoother when Democrats were in charge.

Anonymous wrote:Democrats are a rather diverse lot but at least they pro democracy. Can’t say that about the GOP. Also the democrats don’t want to take Greenland, Venezuela, or start WW3.

Aren't Democrats eager to fight Russia?

Anonymous wrote:No backbone, no spine.

Cannot call a pedophile a pedophile

Look at bought out Hackeem Jefferies. A line of lobbyists at his front door.

And when Bernie, who spoke the truth, began liberating the party, all the deep state billionaires donors who decide elections got behind bought out shill Hillary.

When Zohran gained grass root popularity, the party worked overtime to get him to lose.

This party sucks.

They aren't so much losers that they have to resort to lying, cheating, voter suppression and violence to "win"

I’ll repost this. I didn’t write it but is spot on



The party worked in overdrive to get Zohran unelected. They got Eric Adams to drop out and Crooked Cuomo to ran as an indepdent.

The party couldnt call children being killed and starved a genocide.

When a worker making $10/hr asks for a living wage because everything is unaffordable, they never speak up. the corporate lobbyist money gets them back in line.

The Democrats dont offer anything. They win because the alterntive gets voted out not because they offered anything.

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Anonymous wrote:The party worked in overdrive to get Zohran unelected. They got Eric Adams to drop out and Crooked Cuomo to ran as an indepdent.

The party couldnt call children being killed and starved a genocide.

When a worker making $10/hr asks for a living wage because everything is unaffordable, they never speak up. the corporate lobbyist money gets them back in line.

The Democrats dont offer anything. They win because the alterntive gets voted out not because they offered anything.

Most of this is BS. Mainstream Democratic positions are vastly more effective and humane than anything Republicans are doing. If you really think Democrats offer nothing, then you are blind.

Lifelong Dem here. Not blind but also not stupid enough to not see that Dems have been extremely disappointing. Pretend they are for the people, but aligned with corporate interests. And I agree, almost none of them could call the murder of thousands of children using our military a genocide, and the ones who did were primaried out of office by AIPAC. Enough already.

Democrats are pragmatists. They don't blow up existing structures and alliances. They work within the system to enact positive change. Biden was doing exactly that, it's just not thrown in your face witb a bunch of "only I can do xyz, and have succeeded like no one else ever".

If the Dems deserve a criticism it's that they don't let people know about the good stuff their doing and why.

This is nonsense. They were attached to AIPAC money. Pragmatism is not their problem. If it was, why did they push out Al Franken over nonsense?

But I’ll agree, they’re bad at good PR

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Anonymous wrote:The party worked in overdrive to get Zohran unelected. They got Eric Adams to drop out and Crooked Cuomo to ran as an indepdent.

The party couldnt call children being killed and starved a genocide.

When a worker making $10/hr asks for a living wage because everything is unaffordable, they never speak up. the corporate lobbyist money gets them back in line.

The Democrats dont offer anything. They win because the alterntive gets voted out not because they offered anything.

Most of this is BS. Mainstream Democratic positions are vastly more effective and humane than anything Republicans are doing. If you really think Democrats offer nothing, then you are blind.

Lifelong Dem here. Not blind but also not stupid enough to not see that Dems have been extremely disappointing. Pretend they are for the people, but aligned with corporate interests. And I agree, almost none of them could call the murder of thousands of children using our military a genocide, and the ones who did were primaried out of office by AIPAC. Enough already.

Democrats are pragmatists. They don't blow up existing structures and alliances. They work within the system to enact positive change. Biden was doing exactly that, it's just not thrown in your face witb a bunch of "only I can do xyz, and have succeeded like no one else ever".

If the Dems deserve a criticism it's that they don't let people know about the good stuff their doing and why.

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Anonymous wrote:Can you offer an alternative? MAGA is 100x worse

NP here. Run a moderate Democrat in 2028 who has an impressive military record alike Kelly and isn’t going to chase away two-thirds of the party. Democrats have yo love back to the center and stop trying to shove candidates who are too liberal down everyone’s throats.

Dem here. No. The very opposite of this

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Anonymous wrote:The party worked in overdrive to get Zohran unelected. They got Eric Adams to drop out and Crooked Cuomo to ran as an indepdent.

The party couldnt call children being killed and starved a genocide.

When a worker making $10/hr asks for a living wage because everything is unaffordable, they never speak up. the corporate lobbyist money gets them back in line.

The Democrats dont offer anything. They win because the alterntive gets voted out not because they offered anything.

Most of this is BS. Mainstream Democratic positions are vastly more effective and humane than anything Republicans are doing. If you really think Democrats offer nothing, then you are blind.

Lifelong Dem here. Not blind but also not stupid enough to not see that Dems have been extremely disappointing. Pretend they are for the people, but aligned with corporate interests. And I agree, almost none of them could call the murder of thousands of children using our military a genocide, and the ones who did were primaried out of office by AIPAC. Enough already.

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Anonymous wrote:No backbone, no spine.

Cannot call a pedophile a pedophile

Look at bought out Hackeem Jefferies. A line of lobbyists at his front door.

And when Bernie, who spoke the truth, began liberating the party, all the deep state billionaires donors who decide elections got behind bought out shill Hillary.

When Zohran gained grass root popularity, the party worked overtime to get him to lose.

This party sucks.

If you think Bernie Sanders would have done any better against Trump than Hillary Clinton, I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.

Yep he would have easily won. No one is buying what HRC was selling.

That was the first election my eldest voted in and I remember feeling bad that her first chance to cast her ballot was in an election where you had Republicans who were so upset about Trump that they said they were going to vote Democratic AND Democrats who were so upset because they felt Bernie had been cheated out of the nomination that they were going to vote Republican.

A lot of Trump’s appeal is that he portrays himself as something different, and a large portion of the electorate had concluded that the status quo had failed them and they were desperate to grasp at anything new. Hillary was practically the standard bearer for the status quo. Bernie, at least, represented change, and seemed to at least consider the interests of the average, non-elite, citizen.

It certainly didn’t help that Hillary skipped campaigning altogether in some states. They didn’t have big money or many electoral votes, and they tended to go Democrat anyway. It was more efficient to campaign strategically where the stakes were higher. Stopping by to eat rubber chicken, pretending to listen and care about their concerns, and pick up their (smaller) checks, wasn’t worth her time and effort - after all, what choice did they have. It turned out the had the choice to not turn out and vote for her, contributing to her loss. The Democrats took that as a sign that the system was broken and the electoral college system needed to be abolished so that those voters could be completely ignored without consequence. Democrats entirely missed the bigger lesson, the one that the founders embedded in the electoral college that ALL voters are important.

Democrats need to realize that it is the politicians role to serve the voters and not the other way around. Stop telling them what their priorities should be and start listening to them tell you what their priorities actually are. And please, please, stop insulting them. Let them disagree with you on issues without accusing them of being evil and/or stupid and seek enough common ground to give them reason to vote for you anyway. Once you’re in power, you can do whatever you want on whatever issues you want, but without the voters all you can do is complain.

I’m a conservative who has been voting straight Democratic tickets to oppose Trump and MAGA. I realize that this means if my candidate wins, their actions on many issues will be contrary to what I would wish, however at this point, I feel that preserving freedom outweighs any and all specific issues, which we can debate again after the crisis has been resolved. If I, and the many other conservative never-Trumpers, are willing to accept the loss on issues for the greater good, I wish the Democrats were willing to compromise enough to accept the win.

Anonymous wrote:I'm not a fan of Newsom (used to live in CA), but he's been a lot more ballsy lately, which is why his approval ratings have gone up.

This right here is the problem. Do you want a calm nation where you can focus on prosperity? Or do you want ballsy entertainment?

Most people are too stupid to know they've made a choice.

Total BS. Here's a concrete example - when Democrats were in charge they passed the CHIPS act and established the Minerals Security Partnership including GREENLAND.

Never heard of it? That because the Dems get stuff done with minimal drama.

Everyone should know by now that Trump will eventually move on to the next media storm leaving the whole Greenland thing unresolved. Dems get stuff done.

I'm not a fan of Newsom (used to live in CA), but he's been a lot more ballsy lately, which is why his approval ratings have gone up.

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Anonymous wrote:No backbone, no spine.

Cannot call a pedophile a pedophile

Look at bought out Hackeem Jefferies. A line of lobbyists at his front door.

And when Bernie, who spoke the truth, began liberating the party, all the deep state billionaires donors who decide elections got behind bought out shill Hillary.

When Zohran gained grass root popularity, the party worked overtime to get him to lose.

This party sucks.

If you think Bernie Sanders would have done any better against Trump than Hillary Clinton, I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.

Yep he would have easily won. No one is buying what HRC was selling.