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Anonymous wrote:Minnesota is planning a general strike on Friday, January 23. The call is for people to stay home and do nothing for 24 hours.

No idea if there is any effort to spread it to other states. Worth keeping an eye on. Regardless I will not be participating in the US economy on Friday.

I'm guessing you don't have kids in school?

Jesus Christ people. Freedom is a constant struggle. Every freedom you have is because someone fought and died for it. You can sacrifice just a tiny bit to continue enjoying the freedoms you have because others sacrificed for you.

Anonymous wrote:Because not going to work, which will cost you personally in either lost wages or in expended paid leave, or by reducing business income for a day, will actually lead to a change in government policy? What a bizarre and irrational presumption. Why does the government care if you go to work or not? Nor does the government care if you spend money. The linkage between employee/consumer behavior and government policy in this way is totally absent.

The entire system, the entire economy, depends on us going to work. I assure you that the government has a vested interest in us going to work. It's why every social program is tied to whether you work or have a justification for why you don't work. Otherwise, it's work or starve/become homeless/go to jail. Our labor is the most valuable leverage we as workers have. And general strikes work. That's why they are technically illegal in the US.

Think about that. It is technically illegal for all of us to collectively decide to withhold our labor. And that's exactly why now is exactly the time we MUST do so.

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Anonymous wrote:Anything to distract from the fraud.

Way to go! That'll show 'em! Hope you don't need any car or home repairs that day, or need a doctors appt, or emergency room visit, or childcare, etc.

That’s the point though. Absence makes the heart grow fonder, right?

You also don’t seem to understand the notion of community. I’m sure that people will help their neighbors for most urgent needs. And don’t forget, thanks to Musk and Trump lots of rural healthcare has been scrapped and that doesn’t seem to be a problem for MAGA.

Please. You sound so ignorant snd/or naive. The ""community" cannot handle emergency needs. You're only hurting the poor and middle class workers snd their families.

No. ICE is. Who do you think is bringing poor people groceries and warning them about ICE raids? ICE dragged some poor woman on her way to the doctor out of her car. ICE is hurting many poor and middle class workers and their families. Talk about ignorant and/or naive.

Not working will not make a difference to ICE.

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Anonymous wrote:Anything to distract from the fraud.

Way to go! That'll show 'em! Hope you don't need any car or home repairs that day, or need a doctors appt, or emergency room visit, or childcare, etc.

That’s the point though. Absence makes the heart grow fonder, right?

You also don’t seem to understand the notion of community. I’m sure that people will help their neighbors for most urgent needs. And don’t forget, thanks to Musk and Trump lots of rural healthcare has been scrapped and that doesn’t seem to be a problem for MAGA.

Please. You sound so ignorant snd/or naive. The ""community" cannot handle emergency needs. You're only hurting the poor and middle class workers snd their families.

No. ICE is. Who do you think is bringing poor people groceries and warning them about ICE raids? ICE dragged some poor woman on her way to the doctor out of her car. ICE is hurting many poor and middle class workers and their families. Talk about ignorant and/or naive.

Yes, the general strike is nationwide. I believe it is actually the 20-23. I took a personal day for Tuesday and plan to spend no money those days. If you are able to participate in any way, please do so. Many people cannot, and that's okay. Imo, things are going to have to get a lot worse to really get national strikes going in a major way. I consider this a practice run.

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Anonymous wrote:Anything to distract from the fraud.

Way to go! That'll show 'em! Hope you don't need any car or home repairs that day, or need a doctors appt, or emergency room visit, or childcare, etc.

That’s the point though. Absence makes the heart grow fonder, right?

You also don’t seem to understand the notion of community. I’m sure that people will help their neighbors for most urgent needs. And don’t forget, thanks to Musk and Trump lots of rural healthcare has been scrapped and that doesn’t seem to be a problem for MAGA.

Please. You sound so ignorant snd/or naive. The ""community" cannot handle emergency needs. You're only hurting the poor and middle class workers snd their families.

Anonymous wrote:We need this at the national level, too. Repeatedly.

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Anonymous wrote:Because not going to work, which will cost you personally in either lost wages or in expended paid leave, or by reducing business income for a day, will actually lead to a change in government policy? What a bizarre and irrational presumption. Why does the government care if you go to work or not? Nor does the government care if you spend money. The linkage between employee/consumer behavior and government policy in this way is totally absent.

Then name some ways to draw attention to an overreaching federal government. If you had your way, we would all be speaking the King's english and enjoying kidney beans and yorkshire pie.

DP. Yet at least some of us might have been better off today if the war of 1812 or the Revolutionary War had resulted in different outcomes.

As to the first comment though — The government is financed in large part by taxes of different sorts. Consumer behavior impacts several types of taxes and tax carve outs — linkages that are far from being “totally absent”. Consumer behavior and the productivity of businesses both directly impact tax revenue — something that the government “cares” about inasmuch as tax revenues impact the ability to implement policies.

true, but while "blue states" subsidize "red states" in most cases, it isn't like there is a mechanis for blue taxpayers to withhold taxes and not draw the wrath of the remaining IRS agents out there, so I agree that a general strike is a good move, but I wish it were national and not just in Minnesota. I also agree with a PP that there is no appetite or culture of this sort of form of protest in the US.

Not yet anyway, but the blue states are working on it.

This is a good idea. Escrow it all until Congress asserts its privileges and authority over the power of the purse.

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Anonymous wrote:Because not going to work, which will cost you personally in either lost wages or in expended paid leave, or by reducing business income for a day, will actually lead to a change in government policy? What a bizarre and irrational presumption. Why does the government care if you go to work or not? Nor does the government care if you spend money. The linkage between employee/consumer behavior and government policy in this way is totally absent.

Then name some ways to draw attention to an overreaching federal government. If you had your way, we would all be speaking the King's english and enjoying kidney beans and yorkshire pie.

DP. Yet at least some of us might have been better off today if the war of 1812 or the Revolutionary War had resulted in different outcomes.

As to the first comment though — The government is financed in large part by taxes of different sorts. Consumer behavior impacts several types of taxes and tax carve outs — linkages that are far from being “totally absent”. Consumer behavior and the productivity of businesses both directly impact tax revenue — something that the government “cares” about inasmuch as tax revenues impact the ability to implement policies.

true, but while "blue states" subsidize "red states" in most cases, it isn't like there is a mechanis for blue taxpayers to withhold taxes and not draw the wrath of the remaining IRS agents out there, so I agree that a general strike is a good move, but I wish it were national and not just in Minnesota. I also agree with a PP that there is no appetite or culture of this sort of form of protest in the US.

Not yet anyway, but the blue states are working on it.

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Anonymous wrote:Because not going to work, which will cost you personally in either lost wages or in expended paid leave, or by reducing business income for a day, will actually lead to a change in government policy? What a bizarre and irrational presumption. Why does the government care if you go to work or not? Nor does the government care if you spend money. The linkage between employee/consumer behavior and government policy in this way is totally absent.

Yeah I hope I'm proven wrong but I don't get how doing this in MN helps.

If we could bring the NYSE and a number of airports to a halt, that would hurt the people Trump listens to. Would one day hurt though?

Why don’t you head out to DCA that day PP, with your little sign taped to a yardstick? I’m sure you would get a lot of attention.

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Anonymous wrote:Because not going to work, which will cost you personally in either lost wages or in expended paid leave, or by reducing business income for a day, will actually lead to a change in government policy? What a bizarre and irrational presumption. Why does the government care if you go to work or not? Nor does the government care if you spend money. The linkage between employee/consumer behavior and government policy in this way is totally absent.

Then name some ways to draw attention to an overreaching federal government. If you had your way, we would all be speaking the King's english and enjoying kidney beans and yorkshire pie.

As if there is complete ignorance that some people don't like current government policies, and this will suddenly make that apparent? What, exactly, are you trying to draw attention to that is not already well known? There have always been people who dislike whatever the current government is, no surprise there. This adds exactly nothing to that awareness. It is futile and self-defeating, because it costs proponents their day's wages.

Strikes draw attention to the fact that you need all parts of society. When people who are ignoring what is going on are inconvenienced perhaps they will pay better attention. As Trump has shown us all time and again, negative attention is better than no attention.

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Anonymous wrote:Anything to distract from the fraud.

Way to go! That'll show 'em! Hope you don't need any car or home repairs that day, or need a doctors appt, or emergency room visit, or childcare, etc.

That’s the point though. Absence makes the heart grow fonder, right?

You also don’t seem to understand the notion of community. I’m sure that people will help their neighbors for most urgent needs. And don’t forget, thanks to Musk and Trump lots of rural healthcare has been scrapped and that doesn’t seem to be a problem for MAGA.

Anonymous wrote:Anything to distract from the fraud.

Way to go! That'll show 'em! Hope you don't need any car or home repairs that day, or need a doctors appt, or emergency room visit, or childcare, etc.

Anonymous wrote:Minnesota is planning a general strike on Friday, January 23. The call is for people to stay home and do nothing for 24 hours.

No idea if there is any effort to spread it to other states. Worth keeping an eye on. Regardless I will not be participating in the US economy on Friday.

I'm guessing you don't have kids in school?

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Anonymous wrote:Minnesota is planning a general strike on Friday, January 23. The call is for people to stay home and do nothing for 24 hours.

No idea if there is any effort to spread it to other states. Worth keeping an eye on. Regardless I will not be participating in the US economy on Friday.

Lazy liberals do this every day. How is this any different?

75% of the GDP in this country are from blue, liberal cities and states. Let's just stop with the gaslighting.

75% IS from blue cities, not are from blue cities