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Purdue and UMD are very good schools. Why the angst?

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Anonymous wrote:I feel sorry for these schools. Purdue is a highly ranked engineering program. UMD too. Oh well.

You … feel sorry for them? I feel fairly certain that most great engineering schools would rather have high-scoring students and a lower yield rate. They probably feel bad for their colleagues at the small prestige schools that admit a bunch of test optional kids in ED and then don’t have room for high-scoring kids.

Incredible schools. But no, if you take a look at Purdue’s incoming students profile (matriculates), their test scores are very low.

1360 median SAT and 32 ACT is hardly “very low” when you’re test required.

The middle 50% SAT for Purdue College of Engineering (West Lafayette) is roughly 1380–1510, ACT 32–35, and weighted GPA typically 3.9–4.0. Purdue enrolls 2,800–3,100 first-year engineering students per year at the main campus.

That means roughly 700–800 incoming engineering students each year have a 1510+ SAT. No Ivy comes close to matching that raw number of high-stats engineering admits in a single class.

What separates Purdue is the rigor: tough grading curves, limited grade inflation, and success earned through actual college performance rather than high-school GPA momentum. Some schools are elite because of the strength of the students they admit; Purdue is elite because of both the strength of their students class and the strength of the curriculum that a curriculum filters them regardless of incoming stats.

As long as you are aware… that 1510 is the 25 percentile line at many many schools, whereas it’s the 75 percentile line at Purdue Engineering.

As long as you are aware...many, many schools are still test optional so far fewer students actually meet that 75% score you reference. For context, from a recent thread here about schools "hovering up 1530 SAT students":

Percent of students who submitted an SAT score:
Princeton: 56%
Cornell: 45%
Northwestern: 46%
Michigan: 51%
Tufts: 38%
Amherst: 39%

Purdue: 97%!
Purdue's freshmen class hovers around 9,500 so the number of students at 75% is larger than many smaller "top" schools often mentioned here.

Additionally,
The admit rate for Purdue CS is 43% but the 75% score is 1530.
The admit for Purdue Engineering is 35% and the 75% score is 1520
The admit for Purdue School of Science is 46% and the 75% score is 1510

Also, from another thread here about "where do NMF go"...The number of NMF at each school:
Purdue - 260
Mit - 154
Princeton - 116
Cornell - 54
Northwestern - 75
Tufts - 63

Again, Purdue is a large school...and it attracts many high stats kids. If you consider the sheer number of students who fit in each of these categories, it adds up to many, many very qualified students.

So, OP, it seems they actually DO attend!

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Anonymous wrote:I feel sorry for these schools. Purdue is a highly ranked engineering program. UMD too. Oh well.

You … feel sorry for them? I feel fairly certain that most great engineering schools would rather have high-scoring students and a lower yield rate. They probably feel bad for their colleagues at the small prestige schools that admit a bunch of test optional kids in ED and then don’t have room for high-scoring kids.

Incredible schools. But no, if you take a look at Purdue’s incoming students profile (matriculates), their test scores are very low.

1360 median SAT and 32 ACT is hardly “very low” when you’re test required.

The middle 50% SAT for Purdue College of Engineering (West Lafayette) is roughly 1380–1510, ACT 32–35, and weighted GPA typically 3.9–4.0. Purdue enrolls 2,800–3,100 first-year engineering students per year at the main campus.

That means roughly 700–800 incoming engineering students each year have a 1510+ SAT. No Ivy comes close to matching that raw number of high-stats engineering admits in a single class.

What separates Purdue is the rigor: tough grading curves, limited grade inflation, and success earned through actual college performance rather than high-school GPA momentum. Some schools are elite because of the strength of the students they admit; Purdue is elite because of both the strength of their students class and the strength of the curriculum that a curriculum filters them regardless of incoming stats.

As long as you are aware… that 1510 is the 25 percentile line at many many schools, whereas it’s the 75 percentile line at Purdue Engineering.

Everyone saying “test optional is over,” this comment is why you’re wrong. This person is absolutely convinced that a 1200 is a higher test score than a 1510, provided the 1200 is not reported. There are many, many people who think this way, and all of them are willing to pay 2-3 times as much to send their kid to the test-optional school.

omg By now there are many test required schools, and many of them have 1510 as the 25 percentile line.

Purdue Engineering has 1510 as the 75 percentile line. It's low!

Fine, you don't want to compare to private schools. How about G-tech?

You’re moving the goalposts. The claim you need to defend to win your point is that “1510 is the 25 percentile line at many many (test mandatory) schools.” Please feel free to list the “many many” schools currently reporting a 25th percentile number of 1510 or better based on an entering class admitted on a test-mandatory basis.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel sorry for these schools. Purdue is a highly ranked engineering program. UMD too. Oh well.

You … feel sorry for them? I feel fairly certain that most great engineering schools would rather have high-scoring students and a lower yield rate. They probably feel bad for their colleagues at the small prestige schools that admit a bunch of test optional kids in ED and then don’t have room for high-scoring kids.

Incredible schools. But no, if you take a look at Purdue’s incoming students profile (matriculates), their test scores are very low.

1360 median SAT and 32 ACT is hardly “very low” when you’re test required.

The middle 50% SAT for Purdue College of Engineering (West Lafayette) is roughly 1380–1510, ACT 32–35, and weighted GPA typically 3.9–4.0. Purdue enrolls 2,800–3,100 first-year engineering students per year at the main campus.

That means roughly 700–800 incoming engineering students each year have a 1510+ SAT. No Ivy comes close to matching that raw number of high-stats engineering admits in a single class.

What separates Purdue is the rigor: tough grading curves, limited grade inflation, and success earned through actual college performance rather than high-school GPA momentum. Some schools are elite because of the strength of the students they admit; Purdue is elite because of both the strength of their students class and the strength of the curriculum that a curriculum filters them regardless of incoming stats.

As long as you are aware… that 1510 is the 25 percentile line at many many schools, whereas it’s the 75 percentile line at Purdue Engineering.

Everyone saying “test optional is over,” this comment is why you’re wrong. This person is absolutely convinced that a 1200 is a higher test score than a 1510, provided the 1200 is not reported. There are many, many people who think this way, and all of them are willing to pay 2-3 times as much to send their kid to the test-optional school.

omg By now there are many test required schools, and many of them have 1510 as the 25 percentile line.

Purdue Engineering has 1510 as the 75 percentile line. It's low!

Fine, you don't want to compare to private schools. How about G-tech?

DP. No, you are wrong. Overwhelmingly the schools that abandoned test required and have since shifted back have not published a CDS for a class that requires it yet. They will not have 1510 as the 25th percentile. Harvard, Yale, and Princeton are all at or below 1510 for the 25th percentile currently and that’s with only 55-65% reporting SAT scores.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel sorry for these schools. Purdue is a highly ranked engineering program. UMD too. Oh well.

You … feel sorry for them? I feel fairly certain that most great engineering schools would rather have high-scoring students and a lower yield rate. They probably feel bad for their colleagues at the small prestige schools that admit a bunch of test optional kids in ED and then don’t have room for high-scoring kids.

Incredible schools. But no, if you take a look at Purdue’s incoming students profile (matriculates), their test scores are very low.

1360 median SAT and 32 ACT is hardly “very low” when you’re test required.

The middle 50% SAT for Purdue College of Engineering (West Lafayette) is roughly 1380–1510, ACT 32–35, and weighted GPA typically 3.9–4.0. Purdue enrolls 2,800–3,100 first-year engineering students per year at the main campus.

That means roughly 700–800 incoming engineering students each year have a 1510+ SAT. No Ivy comes close to matching that raw number of high-stats engineering admits in a single class.

What separates Purdue is the rigor: tough grading curves, limited grade inflation, and success earned through actual college performance rather than high-school GPA momentum. Some schools are elite because of the strength of the students they admit; Purdue is elite because of both the strength of their students class and the strength of the curriculum that a curriculum filters them regardless of incoming stats.

As long as you are aware… that 1510 is the 25 percentile line at many many schools, whereas it’s the 75 percentile line at Purdue Engineering.

Everyone saying “test optional is over,” this comment is why you’re wrong. This person is absolutely convinced that a 1200 is a higher test score than a 1510, provided the 1200 is not reported. There are many, many people who think this way, and all of them are willing to pay 2-3 times as much to send their kid to the test-optional school.

omg By now there are many test required schools, and many of them have 1510 as the 25 percentile line.

Purdue Engineering has 1510 as the 75 percentile line. It's low!

Fine, you don't want to compare to private schools. How about G-tech?

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Anonymous wrote:I feel sorry for these schools. Purdue is a highly ranked engineering program. UMD too. Oh well.

You … feel sorry for them? I feel fairly certain that most great engineering schools would rather have high-scoring students and a lower yield rate. They probably feel bad for their colleagues at the small prestige schools that admit a bunch of test optional kids in ED and then don’t have room for high-scoring kids.

Incredible schools. But no, if you take a look at Purdue’s incoming students profile (matriculates), their test scores are very low.

1360 median SAT and 32 ACT is hardly “very low” when you’re test required.

The middle 50% SAT for Purdue College of Engineering (West Lafayette) is roughly 1380–1510, ACT 32–35, and weighted GPA typically 3.9–4.0. Purdue enrolls 2,800–3,100 first-year engineering students per year at the main campus.

That means roughly 700–800 incoming engineering students each year have a 1510+ SAT. No Ivy comes close to matching that raw number of high-stats engineering admits in a single class.

What separates Purdue is the rigor: tough grading curves, limited grade inflation, and success earned through actual college performance rather than high-school GPA momentum. Some schools are elite because of the strength of the students they admit; Purdue is elite because of both the strength of their students class and the strength of the curriculum that a curriculum filters them regardless of incoming stats.

As long as you are aware… that 1510 is the 25 percentile line at many many schools, whereas it’s the 75 percentile line at Purdue Engineering.

Everyone saying “test optional is over,” this comment is why you’re wrong. This person is absolutely convinced that a 1200 is a higher test score than a 1510, provided the 1200 is not reported. There are many, many people who think this way, and all of them are willing to pay 2-3 times as much to send their kid to the test-optional school.

+1. This is exactly why schools don’t want to go back to test required.

is purdue or wisconsin eng harder to get in from oos? what about micg and gtech from the dmv/?

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Anonymous wrote:People tend to focus on the engineering and computer science programs at these schools, but the truth is the majority of students at these schools are not enrolled in these majors.

I don’t know much about Purdue, but the last time I looked outcomes for UMD humanities majors weren’t impressive.

Humanities majors don't do well as well, period.

And yet, we will still need people to do the humanities-related jobs; but somehow they’re valued SO low. It would be a boring world if everyone were engineers and computer programmers.

Anonymous wrote:People tend to focus on the engineering and computer science programs at these schools, but the truth is the majority of students at these schools are not enrolled in these majors.

I don’t know much about Purdue, but the last time I looked outcomes for UMD humanities majors weren’t impressive.

Humanities majors don't do well as well, period.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel sorry for these schools. Purdue is a highly ranked engineering program. UMD too. Oh well.

You … feel sorry for them? I feel fairly certain that most great engineering schools would rather have high-scoring students and a lower yield rate. They probably feel bad for their colleagues at the small prestige schools that admit a bunch of test optional kids in ED and then don’t have room for high-scoring kids.

Incredible schools. But no, if you take a look at Purdue’s incoming students profile (matriculates), their test scores are very low.

1360 median SAT and 32 ACT is hardly “very low” when you’re test required.

The middle 50% SAT for Purdue College of Engineering (West Lafayette) is roughly 1380–1510, ACT 32–35, and weighted GPA typically 3.9–4.0. Purdue enrolls 2,800–3,100 first-year engineering students per year at the main campus.

That means roughly 700–800 incoming engineering students each year have a 1510+ SAT. No Ivy comes close to matching that raw number of high-stats engineering admits in a single class.

What separates Purdue is the rigor: tough grading curves, limited grade inflation, and success earned through actual college performance rather than high-school GPA momentum. Some schools are elite because of the strength of the students they admit; Purdue is elite because of both the strength of their students class and the strength of the curriculum that a curriculum filters them regardless of incoming stats.

As long as you are aware… that 1510 is the 25 percentile line at many many schools, whereas it’s the 75 percentile line at Purdue Engineering.

Everyone saying “test optional is over,” this comment is why you’re wrong. This person is absolutely convinced that a 1200 is a higher test score than a 1510, provided the 1200 is not reported. There are many, many people who think this way, and all of them are willing to pay 2-3 times as much to send their kid to the test-optional school.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel sorry for these schools. Purdue is a highly ranked engineering program. UMD too. Oh well.

You … feel sorry for them? I feel fairly certain that most great engineering schools would rather have high-scoring students and a lower yield rate. They probably feel bad for their colleagues at the small prestige schools that admit a bunch of test optional kids in ED and then don’t have room for high-scoring kids.

Incredible schools. But no, if you take a look at Purdue’s incoming students profile (matriculates), their test scores are very low.

1360 median SAT and 32 ACT is hardly “very low” when you’re test required.

The middle 50% SAT for Purdue College of Engineering (West Lafayette) is roughly 1380–1510, ACT 32–35, and weighted GPA typically 3.9–4.0. Purdue enrolls 2,800–3,100 first-year engineering students per year at the main campus.

That means roughly 700–800 incoming engineering students each year have a 1510+ SAT. No Ivy comes close to matching that raw number of high-stats engineering admits in a single class.

What separates Purdue is the rigor: tough grading curves, limited grade inflation, and success earned through actual college performance rather than high-school GPA momentum. Some schools are elite because of the strength of the students they admit; Purdue is elite because of both the strength of their students class and the strength of the curriculum that a curriculum filters them regardless of incoming stats.

As long as you are aware… that 1510 is the 25 percentile line at many many schools, whereas it’s the 75 percentile line at Purdue Engineering.

Anonymous wrote:People tend to focus on the engineering and computer science programs at these schools, but the truth is the majority of students at these schools are not enrolled in these majors.

I don’t know much about Purdue, but the last time I looked outcomes for UMD humanities majors weren’t impressive.

Where did you look?

People tend to focus on the engineering and computer science programs at these schools, but the truth is the majority of students at these schools are not enrolled in these majors.

I don’t know much about Purdue, but the last time I looked outcomes for UMD humanities majors weren’t impressive.

Anonymous wrote:First, congrats to all accepted!

Will your DC really attend these schools?
The yield rate is like around 20%, which means the vast majority admits will not attend these schools.

Why attend? Because there is not enough room at the top.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel sorry for these schools. Purdue is a highly ranked engineering program. UMD too. Oh well.

You … feel sorry for them? I feel fairly certain that most great engineering schools would rather have high-scoring students and a lower yield rate. They probably feel bad for their colleagues at the small prestige schools that admit a bunch of test optional kids in ED and then don’t have room for high-scoring kids.

Incredible schools. But no, if you take a look at Purdue’s incoming students profile (matriculates), their test scores are very low.

1360 median SAT and 32 ACT is hardly “very low” when you’re test required.

The middle 50% SAT for Purdue College of Engineering (West Lafayette) is roughly 1380–1510, ACT 32–35, and weighted GPA typically 3.9–4.0. Purdue enrolls 2,800–3,100 first-year engineering students per year at the main campus.

That means roughly 700–800 incoming engineering students each year have a 1510+ SAT. No Ivy comes close to matching that raw number of high-stats engineering admits in a single class.

What separates Purdue is the rigor: tough grading curves, limited grade inflation, and success earned through actual college performance rather than high-school GPA momentum. Some schools are elite because of the strength of the students they admit; Purdue is elite because of both the strength of their students class and the strength of the curriculum that a curriculum filters them regardless of incoming stats.