So what, would Americans go to universities there? If anything it is usually the other way around

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Anonymous wrote:Well duh. When you shut down research, that’s what’ll happen.

They have been and still are stealing technologies and patents from US. Why are they sending millions of foreign students and stealing our trade secrets if their universities are better? They can all stay there and attend their "great" universities.

Couldn’t agree more!

Guess what’s next. The people who do the rankings will be threatened.

Anonymous wrote:I work in engineering R&D. Whenever I see a scientific paper published by US/Europe/Japanese organizations that give a promising result, I'm able to reproduce the results. For the Chinese organizations, for the vast majority of time, I'm either unable to reproduce the results or once I invest time on the paper, I realize that the authors did not present the full picture that would unveil the cons of their solution.

This.

Anonymous wrote:Well duh. When you shut down research, that’s what’ll happen.

Please go read the study first and its algorithms before trying to play sage political pundit.

Nothing surprising about this. Trump is a tool of Russia and is making the United States a backwater nation in every respect. Our universities have been a beacon for talent from all over the globe, and he's made the United States a place that many Americans would love to flee and foreigners want to avoid.

Anonymous wrote:Most of the research is AI generated and then peer reviewed by AI bots. Circular reference errors. Good luck China.

Didn’t they just translate research papers from English to Chinese and count those as a publications?

It started with ending affirmative action…then defunding.

Anonymous wrote:I work in engineering R&D. Whenever I see a scientific paper published by US/Europe/Japanese organizations that give a promising result, I'm able to reproduce the results. For the Chinese organizations, for the vast majority of time, I'm either unable to reproduce the results or once I invest time on the paper, I realize that the authors did not present the full picture that would unveil the cons of their solution.

Utter BS go back to your hole MAGA

Anonymous wrote:I am not surprised. Saw it coming with the anti intellectual stance of this administration

This is an idiotic stance. This did not just happen this January. This started years ago.

Anonymous wrote:The upward trend of Chinese university/research output predates trump research cuts. China is playing the long game - in all sectors of industry, defense, influence, etc. This is has been happening for decades (under both republican and democratic leadership) and is not unexpectedly news.

And with the way we treat education in this country, as a race to the bottom, it will continue.

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Anonymous wrote:The ranking methodology emphasizes volume of research output, which means that Chinese universities will naturally dominate. There are simply 4X the number of people in China and probably 10X the number of STEM students compared to the US. While most of this stuff is dreck, the quality of research from China is also improving rapidly. I would not be surprised if (at least in science and engineering), Beijing, Fudan, USTC etc supplant MIT/Harvard/Stanford in the next few years.

And now the folks in OSTP want to fund non-University research institutions, which will undermine the research base at universities further. The war on wokeness is going to have some stark consequences.....

It’s a school ranking. How does that have anything to do with population? You just demonstrated why American education failed.

Let's say 2% of a population is genius level. The number of geniuses coming out of a country with a population 6x larger than another country will have 6x the number of geniuses more than that other country.
Let's say countries typically have universities that meet the demand of its genius talent. You will have roughly 6x the number of universities that meet that tier of students then.
Obviously the latter is a stretch because look at India - their universities aren't competitive. But China's invested in its higher education and the highest scoring students end up at the highest tier schools (that's the system there).

Anonymous wrote:Why does this need to be a competition. It’s good that there are outstanding business schools all over the world. China can improve its standard of living at the same time we improve ours.

But the military industrial complex doesn’t see it this way.

I mean they're literally creating starch from carbon dioxide -- suggesting the possibility of CREATING FOOD FROM THIN AIR.

Did any of you sour-mouthe actually read the article???

(Sure lab results may not necessarily be scaled or even useful for humans sometimes but they are indicative of expertise at least....)

The same thing happened with Canadian Universities and British Universities when funding was cut.