Anonymous wrote:You are letting children intimidate you. When the kids sass you, you SASS BACK but in your most lighthearted manner. I don't care if these kids think I am cool, but I will always push back when they are rude. I try to keep it friendly and say ask for what I want.
So if a kid rolled their eyes when I asked a pizza preference I'd go big and silly "OK THEN! I guess anchovies alllllll arouund because that's Larla's favorite! Right Larla?" and then in a calm voice the say "ok but seriously, I'm getting all cheese unless someone has another request".
But don't let them shrink you with their attitude. If they see that works they do it more.
Anonymous wrote:We know some kids like this, ages 7 and 8. They seem to behave this way when uncomfortable. In our case, it is when we are only offering them analog and unstructured options at our place, like playing outside with our kid. They have come to expect that all activities are scaffolded and prepared for them, and if not, that they should have access to a screen so it’s actually fun. We don’t raise our kid this way at all, but her friends who are used to unfettered YouTube access and messaging apps and Roblox tend to struggle at our place… and also haven’t really asked to come back / be invited back. These same kids also have high expectations for snacks tailored to them and definitely come across as entitled.
Anonymous wrote:I am an elem. school teacher and also have a 4th grade girl, and I have noticed the same thing. If I see her friends treating their parents or other kids that way - we have a conversation on the way home about how it is not acceptable. When her tone of voice shifts I shut it down immediately. Sometimes I think they are oblivious and don't realize how they are being perceived. Just mimicking tone from Youtube or other shows. Sometimes they are doing it for attention from their friends.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yep, I have seen this. I think it's a few things:
1) Kids with older siblings. This is probably the biggest.
2) Kids watching a lot of shows aimed at slightly older tweens. I'm thinking of the Nickelodeon stuff that's on Netflix.
3) Kids whose parents ignore it or even think it's cute. DD has a couple of friends like this. The parents are lovely but clueless and trying to be their kids' friend.
Its this.
My 8 year old boy has a friend who always pulls this stuff. Whining at me about wanting to play Fortnite which we don't have, then mocking my son for it. Insisting on sneaking around in my bedroom when I told him it's off limits. Whining for candy. Basically acting like he hates being at our house. I don't want him over anymore.
But the mom is a total doll. Sweetest lady ever. And she's like that with her son too. Never ever would raise her voice or say a harsh word.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am an elem. school teacher and also have a 4th grade girl, and I have noticed the same thing. If I see her friends treating their parents or other kids that way - we have a conversation on the way home about how it is not acceptable. When her tone of voice shifts I shut it down immediately. Sometimes I think they are oblivious and don't realize how they are being perceived. Just mimicking tone from Youtube or other shows. Sometimes they are doing it for attention from their friends.
OP here. I really appreciate this perspective as I'm sure you encounter a lot of kids. I agree with you that I think the kids are often being oblivious. I wonder about what they think is happening in these interactions with adults where they are being demanding and dismissive. Do they think I'm privately thinking "wow, this kid is cooler than me, I better watch out"? I don't think they realize how much it lowers them in my eyes. If they did, I don't think they'd do it.
Teacher poster here. When I have stopped class for attitude/tone/snarky comments, I usually flat out ask - did you intend for it to come out that way? (Whiny, Bratty, Sarcastic, etc) 9/10 the answer is no. They honestly have no idea that their tone is disrespectful. From overhearing some of my daughters youtube videos - a lot of the skits show teens speaking to each other that way and I think they assume that's what is done. (Think us reading the babysitters club at 8 years old and assuming all teen age girls were laying around in their friends room eating candy and running a business, it seemed like the epitome of cool!) I also stop those shows immediately but I know I am not always around when they are watching. I think at this age (8,9,10) it is more about trying out what they have seen or heard and think is "normal" or "funny" and less about blatant disrespect. But unless we stop them in the moment they assume it is ok.
I have also heard playground comments that are very "mean girl-esque" that we try to stop right away. Those I am more surprised about when parents ignore them at birthday parties etc. And we try to distance ourselves from that when possible.
I will stop her friends in my own house and say something like "Woah, that didnt sound very kind" but it is a fine line right now being the teachers kid and having her lose friendships because I am too "mean."
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am an elem. school teacher and also have a 4th grade girl, and I have noticed the same thing. If I see her friends treating their parents or other kids that way - we have a conversation on the way home about how it is not acceptable. When her tone of voice shifts I shut it down immediately. Sometimes I think they are oblivious and don't realize how they are being perceived. Just mimicking tone from Youtube or other shows. Sometimes they are doing it for attention from their friends.
OP here. I really appreciate this perspective as I'm sure you encounter a lot of kids. I agree with you that I think the kids are often being oblivious. I wonder about what they think is happening in these interactions with adults where they are being demanding and dismissive. Do they think I'm privately thinking "wow, this kid is cooler than me, I better watch out"? I don't think they realize how much it lowers them in my eyes. If they did, I don't think they'd do it.