Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They may be abstinent? Wow. The world would be such a better place if people could just embrace who they actually are (i.e. gay, trans, etc.). Instead kids who were teased or bullied by peer or family members for being different are driven by deep shame to suspend their rational faculties so that they can deny what they know to be true about themselves. They tell themselves that everyone secretly shares the same struggles. They twist themselves into pretezels to accord with rigid, bizarre, and extremist beliefs that help them to suppress their natural inclinations. And worst of all, they turn all that self-loathing outward towards the condemnation of others. Anyone who is as focused as Opus Dei is on other peoples' sexual behavior is suppressing their own shameful (to their mind) truth about themselves. Time and time again leaders who have rabidly condemned others' sexual behaviors are revealed to be secretly gay or to be attracted to children, yet the lesson is never learned. I feel very sorry for those people who hate themselves so much. If you could just let yourself be yourself, you could save yourself (and others) a lot of pain.
I’d say the average Opus Dei participant is way less concerned with other people’s sexual behavior than people here seem to be with the behavior of Opus Dei participants.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oh gosh. You must not know much about Opus Dei. I’d do your research. Even Catholics find Opus Dei to be … too much.
Here’s a thread worth reading, but there are many more.
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/229287.page
Speak for yourself, heretic.
Ick. Seriously. If you are a Roman Catholic, then your church is led by a the Pope, whom you are supposed to believe is infallible when speaking ex cathedra. Both of the last two Popes have been clear that Opus Dei theology departs signifcantly from Roman Catholic Church doctrine. In other words, if you, OP (and the others on this thread who are giving the same vibes), believe in Opus Dei, then you aren't really a Roman Catholic at all. You are in cult that has splintered from the Roman Catholic Church.
No, this is not correct. Opus Dei is in good standing with the Catholic Church. It is not schismatic and not a splinter group. I am not a member of Opus Dei, but know people from it who are very good people. I do not expect it (or the Catholic Church, for that matter) to get any sort of fair treatment on a forum like this.
Yes, DCUM frowns on cults trying to force their beliefs on everyone.
DCUM frowns on anything not adhering to the pro-abortion, liberal narrative. Talk about forcing beliefs.
Anonymous wrote:Catholics can use natural family planning to space their children and work with life situations like unemployment, family hardship, medical conditions. It respects the dignity of both partners, brings Christ into the marriage through prayer and discernment, views children as a gift and allows for family planning. Birth control isn’t the only way. There are no hormones or anything artificial and it is completely free. For many couples it has gotten a lot easier with wings and watches offering biometric data. To state that all Heights parents use birth control is so strange. I would also offer that people get married much later than our grandparents. There’s less time to have 10-13 children when you marry at 30.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oh gosh. You must not know much about Opus Dei. I’d do your research. Even Catholics find Opus Dei to be … too much.
Here’s a thread worth reading, but there are many more.
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/229287.page
Speak for yourself, heretic.
Ick. Seriously. If you are a Roman Catholic, then your church is led by a the Pope, whom you are supposed to believe is infallible when speaking ex cathedra. Both of the last two Popes have been clear that Opus Dei theology departs signifcantly from Roman Catholic Church doctrine. In other words, if you, OP (and the others on this thread who are giving the same vibes), believe in Opus Dei, then you aren't really a Roman Catholic at all. You are in cult that has splintered from the Roman Catholic Church.
No, this is not correct. Opus Dei is in good standing with the Catholic Church. It is not schismatic and not a splinter group. I am not a member of Opus Dei, but know people from it who are very good people. I do not expect it (or the Catholic Church, for that matter) to get any sort of fair treatment on a forum like this.
Yes, DCUM frowns on cults trying to force their beliefs on everyone.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oh gosh. You must not know much about Opus Dei. I’d do your research. Even Catholics find Opus Dei to be … too much.
Here’s a thread worth reading, but there are many more.
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/229287.page
Yes, I know all about Opus Dei, thank you.
Then you would agree that it would be pretty unusual to find lightweight or non practicing Opus Dei Catholics, right? It's a silly question. Opus Dei is rather intense.
You are the silky one. There are non-Catholics at the Heoghts. We were one such family. There were three in our small third grade class
Anonymous wrote:They may be abstinent? Wow. The world would be such a better place if people could just embrace who they actually are (i.e. gay, trans, etc.). Instead kids who were teased or bullied by peer or family members for being different are driven by deep shame to suspend their rational faculties so that they can deny what they know to be true about themselves. They tell themselves that everyone secretly shares the same struggles. They twist themselves into pretezels to accord with rigid, bizarre, and extremist beliefs that help them to suppress their natural inclinations. And worst of all, they turn all that self-loathing outward towards the condemnation of others. Anyone who is as focused as Opus Dei is on other peoples' sexual behavior is suppressing their own shameful (to their mind) truth about themselves. Time and time again leaders who have rabidly condemned others' sexual behaviors are revealed to be secretly gay or to be attracted to children, yet the lesson is never learned. I feel very sorry for those people who hate themselves so much. If you could just let yourself be yourself, you could save yourself (and others) a lot of pain.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oh gosh. You must not know much about Opus Dei. I’d do your research. Even Catholics find Opus Dei to be … too much.
Here’s a thread worth reading, but there are many more.
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/229287.page
Speak for yourself, heretic.
Ick. Seriously. If you are a Roman Catholic, then your church is led by a the Pope, whom you are supposed to believe is infallible when speaking ex cathedra. Both of the last two Popes have been clear that Opus Dei theology departs signifcantly from Roman Catholic Church doctrine. In other words, if you, OP (and the others on this thread who are giving the same vibes), believe in Opus Dei, then you aren't really a Roman Catholic at all. You are in cult that has splintered from the Roman Catholic Church.
And the said, alleged, Papal pronouncements were not made “ex cathedra,” and this can be taken as mere expressions of opinion, lacking any vestige of doctrinal authority.
This is sad to read. You do know that the Pope recently a new series of catecheses (teachings) on the Second Vatican Council (Vatican II), calling it the Church's "guiding star" and urging Catholics to rediscover its documents for guidance in today's world. Vatican II is this year's entire catechesis focus. And you do know that Opus Dei's whole thing is they only believe in Vatican I not Vatican II, right? Here's a picture of the Pope literally sitting in the chair (i.e. ex cathedra) while announcing this, in case you were wondering if this counted as "mere opinion." https://www.usccb.org/news/2026/pope-leo-xiv-calls-catholics-rediscover-vatican-ii-teachings
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Heights families are considered super-duper old school Catholics that go so far above and beyond to embrace outdated conservative beliefs not commonly held by most practicing Catholics.
It’s a big choice that says something about your family if you opt to send your kid there.
Signed,
Cradle Catholic from the area with many decades of visibility
“Outdated” lol.
Begone, troll.
Not only outdated, but (more significantly from a moral perspective) Opus Dei types are deeply hypocritical. They condemn mainstream Pope-following Roman Catholics for being cafeteria Catholics, yet they themselves pick and choose among the Vatican I ideas they embrace. Almost all of them use birth control. My parents grew up in neighborhoods were 12 was normal. My dad was one of seven, and that's only because his mother died in childbirth giving birth to his youngest twin sisters. Modern day Opus Dei venerate things like latin mass, but they still use birth control. [b]The average Heights family has 2-4 kids. In addition to this hypocracy, they also refuse to welcome the stranger, love the neighbor, or feed the hungry. It's a value system that embraces the opposite of everything the Gospels actually say. while centering their festering, self-congratulatory, authoritarian, condemnation on issues the Gospels never ONCE mention, like abortion (which, incidentally was legal under both Roman and Jewish law until the quickening [at ~16 weeks] at the time that Jesus lived, yet Jesus never once thought to mention it; fortunately these modern Opus Dei folks know better than Jesus what the top priorities should be!).
Of course, you have no idea what, if any mode, of family planning any given Opus Dei member might use. Some may be infertile. Some may be abstinent. Some may have been sterilized and later had a religious conversion or have repented. Some may be on hormonal therapy for legitimate reasons that incidentally interferes with fertility. What is it about Opus Dei that makes you feel so guilty that you feel the need to attack its members?
This is typical cult-member self-delusion. It is seriously your belief that current Opus Dei members have greater incidents of infertility and reproductive ailments than prior generations? That's your explanation for why they don't have 10 or 11 kids on average?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oh gosh. You must not know much about Opus Dei. I’d do your research. Even Catholics find Opus Dei to be … too much.
Here’s a thread worth reading, but there are many more.
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/229287.page
Speak for yourself, heretic.
Ick. Seriously. If you are a Roman Catholic, then your church is led by a the Pope, whom you are supposed to believe is infallible when speaking ex cathedra. Both of the last two Popes have been clear that Opus Dei theology departs signifcantly from Roman Catholic Church doctrine. In other words, if you, OP (and the others on this thread who are giving the same vibes), believe in Opus Dei, then you aren't really a Roman Catholic at all. You are in cult that has splintered from the Roman Catholic Church.
No, this is not correct. Opus Dei is in good standing with the Catholic Church. It is not schismatic and not a splinter group. I am not a member of Opus Dei, but know people from it who are very good people. I do not expect it (or the Catholic Church, for that matter) to get any sort of fair treatment on a forum like this.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Heights families are considered super-duper old school Catholics that go so far above and beyond to embrace outdated conservative beliefs not commonly held by most practicing Catholics.
It’s a big choice that says something about your family if you opt to send your kid there.
Signed,
Cradle Catholic from the area with many decades of visibility
“Outdated” lol.
Begone, troll.
Not only outdated, but (more significantly from a moral perspective) Opus Dei types are deeply hypocritical. They condemn mainstream Pope-following Roman Catholics for being cafeteria Catholics, yet they themselves pick and choose among the Vatican I ideas they embrace. Almost all of them use birth control. My parents grew up in neighborhoods were 12 was normal. My dad was one of seven, and that's only because his mother died in childbirth giving birth to his youngest twin sisters. Modern day Opus Dei venerate things like latin mass, but they still use birth control. [b]The average Heights family has 2-4 kids. In addition to this hypocracy, they also refuse to welcome the stranger, love the neighbor, or feed the hungry. It's a value system that embraces the opposite of everything the Gospels actually say. while centering their festering, self-congratulatory, authoritarian, condemnation on issues the Gospels never ONCE mention, like abortion (which, incidentally was legal under both Roman and Jewish law until the quickening [at ~16 weeks] at the time that Jesus lived, yet Jesus never once thought to mention it; fortunately these modern Opus Dei folks know better than Jesus what the top priorities should be!).
Of course, you have no idea what, if any mode, of family planning any given Opus Dei member might use. Some may be infertile. Some may be abstinent. Some may have been sterilized and later had a religious conversion or have repented. Some may be on hormonal therapy for legitimate reasons that incidentally interferes with fertility. What is it about Opus Dei that makes you feel so guilty that you feel the need to attack its members?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Heights families are considered super-duper old school Catholics that go so far above and beyond to embrace outdated conservative beliefs not commonly held by most practicing Catholics.
It’s a big choice that says something about your family if you opt to send your kid there.
Signed,
Cradle Catholic from the area with many decades of visibility
“Outdated” lol.
Begone, troll.
Not only outdated, but (more significantly from a moral perspective) Opus Dei types are deeply hypocritical. They condemn mainstream Pope-following Roman Catholics for being cafeteria Catholics, yet they themselves pick and choose among the Vatican I ideas they embrace. Almost all of them use birth control. My parents grew up in neighborhoods were 12 was normal. My dad was one of seven, and that's only because his mother died in childbirth giving birth to his youngest twin sisters. Modern day Opus Dei venerate things like latin mass, but they still use birth control. [b]The average Heights family has 2-4 kids. In addition to this hypocracy, they also refuse to welcome the stranger, love the neighbor, or feed the hungry. It's a value system that embraces the opposite of everything the Gospels actually say. while centering their festering, self-congratulatory, authoritarian, condemnation on issues the Gospels never ONCE mention, like abortion (which, incidentally was legal under both Roman and Jewish law until the quickening [at ~16 weeks] at the time that Jesus lived, yet Jesus never once thought to mention it; fortunately these modern Opus Dei folks know better than Jesus what the top priorities should be!).
Of course, you have no idea what, if any mode, of family planning any given Opus Dei member might use. Some may be infertile. Some may be abstinent. Some may have been sterilized and later had a religious conversion or have repented. Some may be on hormonal therapy for legitimate reasons that incidentally interferes with fertility. What is it about Opus Dei that makes you feel so guilty that you feel the need to attack its members?