Some anecdata from 3 years ago.

My oldest did not get into her ED1 and chose not to ED2. She did not have a clear first choice. She got waitlisted at three top 25 schools where she was in the top 25% for both grades and test scores. She got into other schools and is happy where she landed but in retrospect she would have chosen to ED2 to her favorite that she was waitlisted for.

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Anonymous wrote:The schools who offer ED2 are the ones who would lose in cross-admits to higher rank schools. This includes UChicago, JHU, and Rice.

Duke was mentioned as TO but I believe it’s mostly for athletes and development admits. Most students there actually have very high test scores.

You are substituting popularity for top quality. Not a pageant.
Rice only loses to HYPMS because their admits are at the level.

DP but OMG! This is a crazy claim! DCUM parents are really delusional.

It’s true. Rice admits’ stats are higher than most ivies.

What stats? College admissions isn’t just about GPAs or SAT scores. There’re whole lot more dimensions to measure talent.

Come on. You might need a spike for HYPMS. Outside T5, no. Every one has a construction job or federal judge internship. T20s are mostly about stats.

Anonymous wrote:We know people who have gotten into ED2 for LACS like Vassar and Middlebury - full pay, non-athletes with no hooks. I think it still helps vs. RD, because even though there's a stronger applicant pool, you're not competing with athletes, legacy, Questbridge, etc.

+1 my dc got in ED2 to one of these and then had friends with both equal and higher stats not get in for rd

Anonymous wrote:Regardless, Rice offers ED2 to lock in some of these very top students.

That’s a fallacy. Very top students don’t do ED2.

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Anonymous wrote:The schools who offer ED2 are the ones who would lose in cross-admits to higher rank schools. This includes UChicago, JHU, and Rice.

Duke was mentioned as TO but I believe it’s mostly for athletes and development admits. Most students there actually have very high test scores.

You are substituting popularity for top quality. Not a pageant.
Rice only loses to HYPMS because their admits are at the level.

DP but OMG! This is a crazy claim! DCUM parents are really delusional.

It’s true. Rice admits’ stats are higher than most ivies.

What stats? College admissions isn’t just about GPAs or SAT scores. There’re whole lot more dimensions to measure talent.

Regardless, Rice offers ED2 to lock in some of these very top students.

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Anonymous wrote:The schools who offer ED2 are the ones who would lose in cross-admits to higher rank schools. This includes UChicago, JHU, and Rice.

Duke was mentioned as TO but I believe it’s mostly for athletes and development admits. Most students there actually have very high test scores.

You are substituting popularity for top quality. Not a pageant.
Rice only loses to HYPMS because their admits are at the level.

DP but OMG! This is a crazy claim! DCUM parents are really delusional.

It’s true. Rice admits’ stats are higher than most ivies.

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Anonymous wrote:The schools who offer ED2 are the ones who would lose in cross-admits to higher rank schools. This includes UChicago, JHU, and Rice.

Duke was mentioned as TO but I believe it’s mostly for athletes and development admits. Most students there actually have very high test scores.

You are substituting popularity for top quality. Not a pageant.
Rice only loses to HYPMS because their admits are at the level.

DP but OMG! This is a crazy claim! DCUM parents are really delusional.

Anonymous wrote:The schools who offer ED2 are the ones who would lose in cross-admits to higher rank schools. This includes UChicago, JHU, and Rice.

Duke was mentioned as TO but I believe it’s mostly for athletes and development admits. Most students there actually have very high test scores.

You are substituting popularity for top quality. Not a pageant.
Rice only loses to HYPMS because their admits are at the level.

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Anonymous wrote:Top schools don’t do ES2. Just saying…

Disagree. Chicago and JHU both have ED2. Top 10.

They’re not true top schools.

What’s a true top school

Ivies, MIT, Stanford, Caltech etc, those that are confident enough not to play the ED game or at least not the ED2 game.

By your standard, USC gets to top Rice?
Get a life!

Not the only criterion. Regardless, ED2 schools aren’t top schools. So stop pretending.

It appears that you are using an only criterion here.

I would choose Rice over most of ivies outside HYP. You would too if you are not using a single criterion and be honest.

It’s quite simple. If a school is really top, why do they even need to use ED 2? Ask yourself that!
Look at MIT, no ED, not even REA. That’s the true definition of a top school.

The schools who offer ED2 are the ones who would lose in cross-admits to higher rank schools. This includes UChicago, JHU, and Rice.

Duke was mentioned as TO but I believe it’s mostly for athletes and development admits. Most students there actually have very high test scores.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Top schools don’t do ES2. Just saying…

Disagree. Chicago and JHU both have ED2. Top 10.

They’re not true top schools.

What’s a true top school

Ivies, MIT, Stanford, Caltech etc, those that are confident enough not to play the ED game or at least not the ED2 game.

By your standard, USC gets to top Rice?
Get a life!

Not the only criterion. Regardless, ED2 schools aren’t top schools. So stop pretending.

It appears that you are using an only criterion here.

I would choose Rice over most of ivies outside HYP. You would too if you are not using a single criterion and be honest.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Top schools don’t do ES2. Just saying…

Disagree. Chicago and JHU both have ED2. Top 10.

They’re not true top schools.

What’s a true top school

Ivies, MIT, Stanford, Caltech etc, those that are confident enough not to play the ED game or at least not the ED2 game.

I went to Stanford. I take it you didn't go to a similar school as selectivity is far from the only barometer on school quality. Our school also rightfully got criticized for maintaining legacy admissions when MIT, Caltech, Hopkins do not.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Top schools don’t do ES2. Just saying…

Disagree. Chicago and JHU both have ED2. Top 10.

They’re not true top schools.

What’s a true top school

Ivies, MIT, Stanford, Caltech etc, those that are confident enough not to play the ED game or at least not the ED2 game.

By your standard, USC gets to top Rice?
Get a life!

Not the only criterion. Regardless, ED2 schools aren’t top schools. So stop pretending.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Top schools don’t do ES2. Just saying…

Disagree. Chicago and JHU both have ED2. Top 10.

They’re not true top schools.

What’s a true top school

Ivies, MIT, Stanford, Caltech etc, those that are confident enough not to play the ED game or at least not the ED2 game.

By your standard, USC gets to top Rice?
Get a life!