Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Seriously, the proportion of posters who say biglaw is out of wack. Why is that?
Because being a big law lawyer in DC kind of sucks. Most everyone I know hates or hated it. It's a grind, and for many people, it's not sustainable for any sort of work-life balance.
+1 and some of the posters, like me, are older. 20+ years ago when tech was not as advanced and remote work was what you did from an airplane on paper while traveling out of town to see a client in person. Investing in newly emerging tech (cell phones, lap tops, broadband) was very expensive, and law was slow to adopt.
Before I had kids, what I saw and learned from partners who were parents was not good. They delegated everything related to their lives outside of work, and in attempts to get home, sometimes delegated even more to the people who worked under them, making those lawyers lives even more miserable as you waited in the office for the partner to call in after the kids were in bed. Several only ever talked to thier kids by phone before bedtime. Partners had drivers for them and their kids, chefs, three shifts of nannies, housekeepers, and cleaners. Most ended up divorced. Everyone drank too much. I attended a few funerals where the eulogies from the adult children of these parents gutted me.
Many associates left when they became parents. The year after I left, the firm instituted a committee to explore ways to keep parents and a program to keep those who left engaged in the hopes that they'd come back some day.
Not all of those things are big. We work in big tech and small law, and we have a driver, one nanny, not really a chef, but someone who delivers meals that we can reheat, a weekly housekeeper, a gardener, and a responsive handyman. We don't drink. We spend a good amount of time with our kids. We use our nanny to clean and do their laundry, and we prioritize making it to as much of their stuff as we can. The big thing we are lacking is time for ourselves. Like, exercising 3 days a week is really hard right now, and I used to run two marathons a year before kids. If I quit, it would be to give myself time. I don't think that by working, I am failing my kids.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Seriously, the proportion of posters who say biglaw is out of wack. Why is that?
Because being a big law lawyer in DC kind of sucks. Most everyone I know hates or hated it. It's a grind, and for many people, it's not sustainable for any sort of work-life balance.
+1 and some of the posters, like me, are older. 20+ years ago when tech was not as advanced and remote work was what you did from an airplane on paper while traveling out of town to see a client in person. Investing in newly emerging tech (cell phones, lap tops, broadband) was very expensive, and law was slow to adopt.
Before I had kids, what I saw and learned from partners who were parents was not good. They delegated everything related to their lives outside of work, and in attempts to get home, sometimes delegated even more to the people who worked under them, making those lawyers lives even more miserable as you waited in the office for the partner to call in after the kids were in bed. Several only ever talked to thier kids by phone before bedtime. Partners had drivers for them and their kids, chefs, three shifts of nannies, housekeepers, and cleaners. Most ended up divorced. Everyone drank too much. I attended a few funerals where the eulogies from the adult children of these parents gutted me.
Many associates left when they became parents. The year after I left, the firm instituted a committee to explore ways to keep parents and a program to keep those who left engaged in the hopes that they'd come back some day.
Anonymous wrote:I also think being attorney is way more all or nothing than some other careers. Sure, part time opportunities exist, but I know very few people who have them and feel that they are actually a downshift. Even lower paying lawyer jobs are still stressful.
- attorney who'd love to quit, haha
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Seriously, the proportion of posters who say biglaw is out of wack. Why is that?
Because being a big law lawyer in DC kind of sucks. Most everyone I know hates or hated it. It's a grind, and for many people, it's not sustainable for any sort of work-life balance.
Anonymous wrote:20+ years ago, law partner, $250 base, plus equity bonus. At the time DH made less than I did (but now makes many multiples of that), so we walked away from the higher of our two salaries.
Yes, we are happy with our decision financially, and we would not change a thing. It's been a great run. Sure, we'd have a lot more money if I had kept working, but I cannot guarantee we'd have a happier life, and we love our life. We don't need more money.
And personally, I am a lot more fulfilled with the way I have been able to use my time and talents for others than I was when practicing law. I liked being a lawyer, but I love what I have have been able to do since resigning, and frankly it's better for world.
Anonymous wrote:$60k. No regrets. Went back to work when my kid was in high school.
Anonymous wrote:I peaked at $180k, downshifted to $125k in hopes less responsibility and stress would be the solution (it wasn’t), then stayed at home the past 15 years. Zero regrets. The unfortunate truth that makes my feminist heart hurt is that my DH’s career was able to thrive and more than made up my income in a couple years and the kids were way better off. And our marriage and household thrived. And now my parents will benefit.
I would absolutely do it again and advise it to anyone for quality of life, but it also worked because 1) no surprises in the marriage and he’s still by favorite person 2) his career had that much potential to grow.
Anonymous wrote:I also think being attorney is way more all or nothing than some other careers. Sure, part time opportunities exist, but I know very few people who have them and feel that they are actually a downshift. Even lower paying lawyer jobs are still stressful.
- attorney who'd love to quit, haha
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:$60k. No regrets. Went back to work when my kid was in high school.
Same scenario.. 62K when I left working.
Which field are you in currently?
mAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Seriously, the proportion of posters who say biglaw is out of wack. Why is that?
Because being a big law lawyer in DC kind of sucks. Most everyone I know hates or hated it. It's a grind, and for many people, it's not sustainable for any sort of work-life balance.
This.