Anonymous
Post 01/07/2026 23:09     Subject: Why do some people say "woman-owned" or "woman President" when we don't say "man-owned" or "man President"?
Anonymous wrote:The term I am truly outraged over is ‘manhole cover.”

What sort of misogynistic, patriarchal, chauvinistic, phallocentric, sexist, discriminatory, nonsense in 2026 is this?!?


The female ones are called sewer hole covers, of course.
Anonymous
Post 01/07/2026 23:07     Subject: Why do some people say "woman-owned" or "woman President" when we don't say "man-owned" or "man President"?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Good luck, OP! LOL


+1
What and idiot thing to ask. Yes, OP, there are stupid questions - you just asked one.


Ahem, female questions.
Anonymous
Post 01/07/2026 22:58     Subject: Why do some people say "woman-owned" or "woman President" when we don't say "man-owned" or "man President"?
We have a mail woman. Should we call her a mail female or a female mailman?
Anonymous
Post 01/07/2026 18:17     Subject: Why do some people say "woman-owned" or "woman President" when we don't say "man-owned" or "man President"?
Anonymous wrote:The term I am truly outraged over is ‘manhole cover.”

What sort of misogynistic, patriarchal, chauvinistic, phallocentric, sexist, discriminatory, nonsense in 2026 is this?!?


Not surprisingly, you've totally missed the point which was NOT about sexist/discriminatory terms at all. It was simply about grammar.
Anonymous
Post 01/07/2026 15:38     Subject: Why do some people say "woman-owned" or "woman President" when we don't say "man-owned" or "man President"?
You gotta love underemployed English majors arguing over the correct use of the word. And the ones saying that the incorrect usage is correct are just hilarious! lol
Anonymous
Post 01/07/2026 13:42     Subject: Why do some people say "woman-owned" or "woman President" when we don't say "man-owned" or "man President"?
The term I am truly outraged over is ‘manhole cover.”

What sort of misogynistic, patriarchal, chauvinistic, phallocentric, sexist, discriminatory, nonsense in 2026 is this?!?
Anonymous
Post 01/06/2026 21:55     Subject: Why do some people say "woman-owned" or "woman President" when we don't say "man-owned" or "man President"?
Anonymous wrote:Same reasons lots of people still say things like “male nurse”


That's not what I'm talking about. We don't say "man nurse," so of course we would say "male nurse". So why can't we also say, "female pilot" rather than the absurd, "woman pilot"?
Anonymous
Post 01/06/2026 21:54     Subject: Why do some people say "woman-owned" or "woman President" when we don't say "man-owned" or "man President"?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It drives me crazy. It should be "female-owned," just as it would be "male-owned" or "male President". Why do some persist in using this grammatically incorrect construction?
Other examples:
"woman author, woman chef, woman architect, woman doctor," etc. Why has "female" become a bad word among some?


I don't understand -- is your complaint one of grammar or about the use of a modifier at all?

If it's about the use of a modifier, surely you understand that ties to both affinity marketing and also the fact that the presumption that most businesses are owned by men, so there's some value in pointing out exceptions.

If it's about grammar, get over it. There are a LOT of things that break grammar rules for effect -- this is just one of them. And if you don't understand that, you're not the grammarian you think you are.


Sure, and we should start using "man teacher, man beauty salon owner, man tightrope walker" - right? I mean, it's totally grammatically incorrect, but if it doesn't bother you to use "woman" in those instances, then no biggie.
Anonymous
Post 01/06/2026 21:51     Subject: Why do some people say "woman-owned" or "woman President" when we don't say "man-owned" or "man President"?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think I kind of agree with the basic point the OP made here, but it also seems like this was/is just flamebait.

Whether it is things like the examples the OP cited here, or the person that complained MCPS created a short secular Christmas video for social media, it often feels like some people
are just looking for ways to be offended.


OP here. I was not posting this as "flamebait". I did consider the DCUM audience here before I posted, but this has annoyed me for so long I guess I really don't care. To be clear: I'm not offended by either words - female or woman. They are both perfectly acceptable and I think anyone considering "female" a pejorative has a few screws loose. The point of my post was to ask why *others* are offended by the use of "female," so much so that they consider it a great offense to correctly refer to someone as a "female author/president/taxi driver," and insist on the ungrammatical use of "woman author/president/taxi driver, etc".


The reason for the offense around the work “female” is (I think) this word being frequently used by red-pill content creators who put out a lot of misogynistic and demeaning content targeting women. They, for whatever reason, really liked using this word and it started to become associated with their rants against women or, as they would say, “females”. In this bizarre context, the word was actually meant to be a pejorative because the belief system centers around hating women so “female” is intended to be an insult.

I am not offended by this word and agree that we should be using it as appropriate but this is where the association comes from. It’s a very terminally online discourse. I do hope we can now reclaim the word and use it normally, especially given that these men intentionally overused to word to offend and annoy and I really hope we can all stop giving them attention.


OP here. Thank you for this explanation, it makes sense. I appreciate you taking the time to write it. I also plan to continue using the word "female" where appropriate as there's nothing at all offensive about it, any more than there is with the word "male".
Anonymous
Post 01/06/2026 10:30     Subject: Why do some people say "woman-owned" or "woman President" when we don't say "man-owned" or "man President"?
Same reasons lots of people still say things like “male nurse”
Anonymous
Post 01/06/2026 07:49     Subject: Why do some people say "woman-owned" or "woman President" when we don't say "man-owned" or "man President"?
Anonymous wrote:It drives me crazy. It should be "female-owned," just as it would be "male-owned" or "male President". Why do some persist in using this grammatically incorrect construction?
Other examples:
"woman author, woman chef, woman architect, woman doctor," etc. Why has "female" become a bad word among some?


I don't understand -- is your complaint one of grammar or about the use of a modifier at all?

If it's about the use of a modifier, surely you understand that ties to both affinity marketing and also the fact that the presumption that most businesses are owned by men, so there's some value in pointing out exceptions.

If it's about grammar, get over it. There are a LOT of things that break grammar rules for effect -- this is just one of them. And if you don't understand that, you're not the grammarian you think you are.
Anonymous
Post 01/06/2026 07:43     Subject: Why do some people say "woman-owned" or "woman President" when we don't say "man-owned" or "man President"?
In procurement SWaM is an important distinction

It means Small, Woman and Minority owned
Anonymous
Post 01/06/2026 03:51     Subject: Why do some people say "woman-owned" or "woman President" when we don't say "man-owned" or "man President"?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Good luck, OP! LOL


+1
What and idiot thing to ask. Yes, OP, there are stupid questions - you just asked one.


But I see you're unable to answer the question.

Good rebuttal!
Anonymous
Post 01/06/2026 00:46     Subject: Why do some people say "woman-owned" or "woman President" when we don't say "man-owned" or "man President"?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think I kind of agree with the basic point the OP made here, but it also seems like this was/is just flamebait.

Whether it is things like the examples the OP cited here, or the person that complained MCPS created a short secular Christmas video for social media, it often feels like some people
are just looking for ways to be offended.


OP here. I was not posting this as "flamebait". I did consider the DCUM audience here before I posted, but this has annoyed me for so long I guess I really don't care. To be clear: I'm not offended by either words - female or woman. They are both perfectly acceptable and I think anyone considering "female" a pejorative has a few screws loose. The point of my post was to ask why *others* are offended by the use of "female," so much so that they consider it a great offense to correctly refer to someone as a "female author/president/taxi driver," and insist on the ungrammatical use of "woman author/president/taxi driver, etc".


The reason for the offense around the work “female” is (I think) this word being frequently used by red-pill content creators who put out a lot of misogynistic and demeaning content targeting women. They, for whatever reason, really liked using this word and it started to become associated with their rants against women or, as they would say, “females”. In this bizarre context, the word was actually meant to be a pejorative because the belief system centers around hating women so “female” is intended to be an insult.

I am not offended by this word and agree that we should be using it as appropriate but this is where the association comes from. It’s a very terminally online discourse. I do hope we can now reclaim the word and use it normally, especially given that these men intentionally overused to word to offend and annoy and I really hope we can all stop giving them attention.
Anonymous
Post 01/05/2026 23:50     Subject: Why do some people say "woman-owned" or "woman President" when we don't say "man-owned" or "man President"?
Anonymous wrote:I think I kind of agree with the basic point the OP made here, but it also seems like this was/is just flamebait.

Whether it is things like the examples the OP cited here, or the person that complained MCPS created a short secular Christmas video for social media, it often feels like some people
are just looking for ways to be offended.


OP here. I was not posting this as "flamebait". I did consider the DCUM audience here before I posted, but this has annoyed me for so long I guess I really don't care. To be clear: I'm not offended by either words - female or woman. They are both perfectly acceptable and I think anyone considering "female" a pejorative has a few screws loose. The point of my post was to ask why *others* are offended by the use of "female," so much so that they consider it a great offense to correctly refer to someone as a "female author/president/taxi driver," and insist on the ungrammatical use of "woman author/president/taxi driver, etc".