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Anonymous wrote:$3,800/month for an apartment in Italy is… certainly a choice. About double the cost of a basic one br in DC.

I’m really confused by this. What part of the city was it in? I almost moved to Rome with my family and we were looking at very large apartments that cost not much more than that. Did you rent them a 3br overlooking a monument or something?

Not that poster, but imagine there is a premium to rent a fully furnished apartment for only four months.

Anonymous wrote:Food and estimated personal expenses (which the schools often underestimate in their published cost of attendance) alone for a semester at UVA are $5k. The same at Georgetown are over $5k. Not sure why people are freaking out about a $7-10k total spend (sans housing) when you take into account the extra travel and unique experiences that you wouldn’t be doing at your home campus.

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Anonymous wrote:PP again ^^ - I should mention that all of the traveling my DC did was sharing inexpensive AirBnBs and hostels. Nothing was luxurious at all, it just costs a ton to travel in Europe. And about half of DC’s spending money came from their own savings. Not a “spoiled rich kid”.

You're so out of touch it's not even funny. No normal student can afford to travel around like that. It's nice your kid was able to earn and save so much of their own money, but he was able to keep that money for fun spending because YOU are rich, don't need his help and are paying for his education! Many students earn money for their families, PP and many students pay for their education. The money they earn they need to spend on serious things. I was a teaching assistant at a large research university and some of my undergrad students worked very long hours to afford some of their tuition.

You seriously need some perspective, and the other PP does as well. For shame. It's not just the kids who are spoiled in your families, it's YOU.

Look - the OP asked and we answered. There are tons of students who going on study abroad and find ways to see the countries and cities around them when they have free time. Ever heard of backpacking around Europe?

But most importantly, I don't need a lecture about kids who work hard to pay for their own education - both my spouse and I WERE those kids! We have worked hard and are now happy to have the means to send our kid on a study abroad program and help pay for some of his spending money - and I feel no need whatsoever to apologize for that. If anyone needs some perspective here, it's YOU. Those students you describe are no doubt parents now and proud to help their own children experience what they weren't able to. For shame, indeed.

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Not really. These parents are in weird denial that their kids are not privileged. Posters are telling them that they need to recognize their privilege. Schlepping around Europe is not given to most young adults, even in hostels, and the fact that the parents, back in the day, backpacked across Europe, has nothing to do with their children's more comfortable lifestyle. I mean, this is so blindingly obvious. But apparently a nerve was hit and that poster is pushing back, which is incredibly irrational

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Anonymous wrote:PP again ^^ - I should mention that all of the traveling my DC did was sharing inexpensive AirBnBs and hostels. Nothing was luxurious at all, it just costs a ton to travel in Europe. And about half of DC’s spending money came from their own savings. Not a “spoiled rich kid”.

You're so out of touch it's not even funny. No normal student can afford to travel around like that. It's nice your kid was able to earn and save so much of their own money, but he was able to keep that money for fun spending because YOU are rich, don't need his help and are paying for his education! Many students earn money for their families, PP and many students pay for their education. The money they earn they need to spend on serious things. I was a teaching assistant at a large research university and some of my undergrad students worked very long hours to afford some of their tuition.

You seriously need some perspective, and the other PP does as well. For shame. It's not just the kids who are spoiled in your families, it's YOU.

Look - the OP asked and we answered. There are tons of students who going on study abroad and find ways to see the countries and cities around them when they have free time. Ever heard of backpacking around Europe?

But most importantly, I don't need a lecture about kids who work hard to pay for their own education - both my spouse and I WERE those kids! We have worked hard and are now happy to have the means to send our kid on a study abroad program and help pay for some of his spending money - and I feel no need whatsoever to apologize for that. If anyone needs some perspective here, it's YOU. Those students you describe are no doubt parents now and proud to help their own children experience what they weren't able to. For shame, indeed.

Nope, you are still in the wrong. You do not complain about how expensive it is in the same breath as detailing a wealthy student's life. You do not pretend that your student isn't a spoiled rich kid just because he "slummed" it while doing extra travel he did just for fun.

I am wealthy. My kids are "spoiled rich kids" because they were born into my family (very nice ones, and they volunteer and are aware of their privilege). I would NEVER write what you wrote, or what the other PP wrote. We can afford some luxuries. We do not complain about how expensive they are. We do not pretend that our extras in life, however modest they might seem to our circle, are anything but privilege.

Most of the US is suffering under inflation and struggling to buy what they need, let alone what they want. Get out of your bubble and choose your words more carefully.

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Anonymous wrote:PP again ^^ - I should mention that all of the traveling my DC did was sharing inexpensive AirBnBs and hostels. Nothing was luxurious at all, it just costs a ton to travel in Europe. And about half of DC’s spending money came from their own savings. Not a “spoiled rich kid”.

You're so out of touch it's not even funny. No normal student can afford to travel around like that. It's nice your kid was able to earn and save so much of their own money, but he was able to keep that money for fun spending because YOU are rich, don't need his help and are paying for his education! Many students earn money for their families, PP and many students pay for their education. The money they earn they need to spend on serious things. I was a teaching assistant at a large research university and some of my undergrad students worked very long hours to afford some of their tuition.

You seriously need some perspective, and the other PP does as well. For shame. It's not just the kids who are spoiled in your families, it's YOU.

Dp, this is a very strange response. Everyone gets to chose their own priorities in life. Spending on travel, if one can afford it, is one of the better ways.

Another clueless rich person. Most of the American population has no such option. They spend their money on necessities, not luxuries.

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Anonymous wrote:$3,800/month for an apartment in Italy is… certainly a choice. About double the cost of a basic one br in DC.

I’m really confused by this. What part of the city was it in? I almost moved to Rome with my family and we were looking at very large apartments that cost not much more than that. Did you rent them a 3br overlooking a monument or something?

Anonymous wrote:$3,800/month for an apartment in Italy is… certainly a choice. About double the cost of a basic one br in DC.

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Anonymous wrote:PP again ^^ - I should mention that all of the traveling my DC did was sharing inexpensive AirBnBs and hostels. Nothing was luxurious at all, it just costs a ton to travel in Europe. And about half of DC’s spending money came from their own savings. Not a “spoiled rich kid”.

You're so out of touch it's not even funny. No normal student can afford to travel around like that. It's nice your kid was able to earn and save so much of their own money, but he was able to keep that money for fun spending because YOU are rich, don't need his help and are paying for his education! Many students earn money for their families, PP and many students pay for their education. The money they earn they need to spend on serious things. I was a teaching assistant at a large research university and some of my undergrad students worked very long hours to afford some of their tuition.

You seriously need some perspective, and the other PP does as well. For shame. It's not just the kids who are spoiled in your families, it's YOU.

Look - the OP asked and we answered. There are tons of students who going on study abroad and find ways to see the countries and cities around them when they have free time. Ever heard of backpacking around Europe?

But most importantly, I don't need a lecture about kids who work hard to pay for their own education - both my spouse and I WERE those kids! We have worked hard and are now happy to have the means to send our kid on a study abroad program and help pay for some of his spending money - and I feel no need whatsoever to apologize for that. If anyone needs some perspective here, it's YOU. Those students you describe are no doubt parents now and proud to help their own children experience what they weren't able to. For shame, indeed.

+ a million to all of the above

Not really. These parents are in weird denial that their kids are not privileged. Posters are telling them that they need to recognize their privilege. Schlepping around Europe is not given to most young adults, even in hostels, and the fact that the parents, back in the day, backpacked across Europe, has nothing to do with their children's more comfortable lifestyle. I mean, this is so blindingly obvious. But apparently a nerve was hit and that poster is pushing back, which is incredibly irrational

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Anonymous wrote:PP again ^^ - I should mention that all of the traveling my DC did was sharing inexpensive AirBnBs and hostels. Nothing was luxurious at all, it just costs a ton to travel in Europe. And about half of DC’s spending money came from their own savings. Not a “spoiled rich kid”.

You're so out of touch it's not even funny. No normal student can afford to travel around like that. It's nice your kid was able to earn and save so much of their own money, but he was able to keep that money for fun spending because YOU are rich, don't need his help and are paying for his education! Many students earn money for their families, PP and many students pay for their education. The money they earn they need to spend on serious things. I was a teaching assistant at a large research university and some of my undergrad students worked very long hours to afford some of their tuition.

You seriously need some perspective, and the other PP does as well. For shame. It's not just the kids who are spoiled in your families, it's YOU.

Look - the OP asked and we answered. There are tons of students who going on study abroad and find ways to see the countries and cities around them when they have free time. Ever heard of backpacking around Europe?

But most importantly, I don't need a lecture about kids who work hard to pay for their own education - both my spouse and I WERE those kids! We have worked hard and are now happy to have the means to send our kid on a study abroad program and help pay for some of his spending money - and I feel no need whatsoever to apologize for that. If anyone needs some perspective here, it's YOU. Those students you describe are no doubt parents now and proud to help their own children experience what they weren't able to. For shame, indeed.

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