Can we go back to the 15 minutes that the principal spent on hold when he called the police? Is that really the hold time for 911 these days? The school timeline says the event happened at 12:47. The police timeline says the call was dispatched at 1:14. If the principal was on hold for 15 minutes, did it then take another 12 minutes for the call to be dispatched or was there also a delay in calling police? One of the news outlets needs to use the MPIA to get the 911 call and the police radio traffic. This doesn’t add up.

Anonymous wrote:Jesus, the person didn't go to school there, but other students let them in. There needs to be an administrator standing at the door limiting who is allowing people in!

I've been to Wheaton several times and had to show ID. I'm an adult, tho, who could not blend in as a student.

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At approximately 12:47 p.m., a staff member heard a verbal altercation in a hallway. Upon entering the area, the staff member observed a juvenile with a knife. The staff member immediately intervened, disarmed the individual, and attempted to escort him to the main office. During this process, the individual fled the building and was observed running off campus.

It was wildly inappropriate and against protocol for the teacher to disarm the individual with the knife instead of calling security and/or the police to do that.

Not only could that teacher have been seriously hurt, but because this teacher decided to take things into their own hands instead of calling the appropriate people, the intruder was able to escape the building.

I hope the principal and teacher are held accountable for this.

I understand a teacher not wanting to put their own safety at risk to protect a kid in this situation but I don’t understand you calling it wildly inappropriate that someone did.

I made why it was wildly inappropriate clear:

1) They aren't trained to disarm a violent intruder. This attempt could have led to serious injury to themselves or other students easily.

2) Their lack of training and lack of back-up directly led to the intruder escaping.

Those are really big deals.

I don't think you know what this individual is and is not trained for and are just making šħîť up as you go along.

Just like you. Because you have no idea what I do or don't know.

I know that you know nothing and yet continue to post, that much is clear.

Great. Keep knowing what you think you know on an anonymous online forum. I hope you sleep better at night.

You simply can't not post, can you? Here, I'll give you last word since it seems to be so important to you.

Isn't that the pot calling the kettle black?

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At approximately 12:47 p.m., a staff member heard a verbal altercation in a hallway. Upon entering the area, the staff member observed a juvenile with a knife. The staff member immediately intervened, disarmed the individual, and attempted to escort him to the main office. During this process, the individual fled the building and was observed running off campus.

It was wildly inappropriate and against protocol for the teacher to disarm the individual with the knife instead of calling security and/or the police to do that.

Not only could that teacher have been seriously hurt, but because this teacher decided to take things into their own hands instead of calling the appropriate people, the intruder was able to escape the building.

I hope the principal and teacher are held accountable for this.

I understand a teacher not wanting to put their own safety at risk to protect a kid in this situation but I don’t understand you calling it wildly inappropriate that someone did.

I made why it was wildly inappropriate clear:

1) They aren't trained to disarm a violent intruder. This attempt could have led to serious injury to themselves or other students easily.

2) Their lack of training and lack of back-up directly led to the intruder escaping.

Those are really big deals.

I don't think you know what this individual is and is not trained for and are just making šħîť up as you go along.

Just like you. Because you have no idea what I do or don't know.

I know that you know nothing and yet continue to post, that much is clear.

Great. Keep knowing what you think you know on an anonymous online forum. I hope you sleep better at night.

You simply can't not post, can you? Here, I'll give you last word since it seems to be so important to you.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

At approximately 12:47 p.m., a staff member heard a verbal altercation in a hallway. Upon entering the area, the staff member observed a juvenile with a knife. The staff member immediately intervened, disarmed the individual, and attempted to escort him to the main office. During this process, the individual fled the building and was observed running off campus.

It was wildly inappropriate and against protocol for the teacher to disarm the individual with the knife instead of calling security and/or the police to do that.

Not only could that teacher have been seriously hurt, but because this teacher decided to take things into their own hands instead of calling the appropriate people, the intruder was able to escape the building.

I hope the principal and teacher are held accountable for this.

I understand a teacher not wanting to put their own safety at risk to protect a kid in this situation but I don’t understand you calling it wildly inappropriate that someone did.

I made why it was wildly inappropriate clear:

1) They aren't trained to disarm a violent intruder. This attempt could have led to serious injury to themselves or other students easily.

2) Their lack of training and lack of back-up directly led to the intruder escaping.

Those are really big deals.

I don't think you know what this individual is and is not trained for and are just making šħîť up as you go along.

Just like you. Because you have no idea what I do or don't know.

I know that you know nothing and yet continue to post, that much is clear.

Great. Keep knowing what you think you know on an anonymous online forum. I hope you sleep better at night.

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Anonymous wrote:

At approximately 12:47 p.m., a staff member heard a verbal altercation in a hallway. Upon entering the area, the staff member observed a juvenile with a knife. The staff member immediately intervened, disarmed the individual, and attempted to escort him to the main office. During this process, the individual fled the building and was observed running off campus.

It was wildly inappropriate and against protocol for the teacher to disarm the individual with the knife instead of calling security and/or the police to do that.

Not only could that teacher have been seriously hurt, but because this teacher decided to take things into their own hands instead of calling the appropriate people, the intruder was able to escape the building.

I hope the principal and teacher are held accountable for this.

I understand a teacher not wanting to put their own safety at risk to protect a kid in this situation but I don’t understand you calling it wildly inappropriate that someone did.

I made why it was wildly inappropriate clear:

1) They aren't trained to disarm a violent intruder. This attempt could have led to serious injury to themselves or other students easily.

2) Their lack of training and lack of back-up directly led to the intruder escaping.

Those are really big deals.

So you’re saying people “trained to disarm” are the only people who should intervene? You have been watching too much TV.

This teacher prevented a student from being stabbed, potentially killed. Do you think the intruder had a knife out just for fun? If an intruder has a weapon out, you need to believe they plan on using it.

Yes, I absolutely am. And I don't think I'm the one who's been watching too much TV if you think people aren't trained to disarm people safely should give it a shot and let the chips fall where they may.

Again, I'm glad it didn't end tragically this time, but it could have easily. Which is why MCPS has safety protocols for people to follow in cases like this.

The teacher's job is to call for help when a someone with a weapon enters the building. Not attempt to disarm the intruder and then frog march them to the office. That's literally security or the police's job.

You have no common sense. Did you not hear the news - an untrained person grabbed the rifle from the attacker in Australia and more deaths were prevented at Bondi beach.

Any untrained person can do what they need to do when an attack is going on. They are the real heroes. I applaud this teacher.

This is a ridiculous analogy. The beach is an open public space that does not bind citizens utilizing the beach to adhere to specific safety protocols in the event of a person with a weapon appearing. A school building has specialized security staff trained to deal with threats like this. There are protocols to be followed by teachers on who to call and want to do in these scenarios for a reason.

If the safety protocols are to be dismissed and ignored, why do we train teachers and admin on them and why do we have security staff in the building? Unarmed teachers can handle it all, right? And we should applaud them for it. That's your argument, right?

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At approximately 12:47 p.m., a staff member heard a verbal altercation in a hallway. Upon entering the area, the staff member observed a juvenile with a knife. The staff member immediately intervened, disarmed the individual, and attempted to escort him to the main office. During this process, the individual fled the building and was observed running off campus.

It was wildly inappropriate and against protocol for the teacher to disarm the individual with the knife instead of calling security and/or the police to do that.

Not only could that teacher have been seriously hurt, but because this teacher decided to take things into their own hands instead of calling the appropriate people, the intruder was able to escape the building.

I hope the principal and teacher are held accountable for this.

I understand a teacher not wanting to put their own safety at risk to protect a kid in this situation but I don’t understand you calling it wildly inappropriate that someone did.

I made why it was wildly inappropriate clear:

1) They aren't trained to disarm a violent intruder. This attempt could have led to serious injury to themselves or other students easily.

2) Their lack of training and lack of back-up directly led to the intruder escaping.

Those are really big deals.

I don't think you know what this individual is and is not trained for and are just making šħîť up as you go along.

Just like you. Because you have no idea what I do or don't know.

I know that you know nothing and yet continue to post, that much is clear.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

At approximately 12:47 p.m., a staff member heard a verbal altercation in a hallway. Upon entering the area, the staff member observed a juvenile with a knife. The staff member immediately intervened, disarmed the individual, and attempted to escort him to the main office. During this process, the individual fled the building and was observed running off campus.

It was wildly inappropriate and against protocol for the teacher to disarm the individual with the knife instead of calling security and/or the police to do that.

Not only could that teacher have been seriously hurt, but because this teacher decided to take things into their own hands instead of calling the appropriate people, the intruder was able to escape the building.

I hope the principal and teacher are held accountable for this.

I understand a teacher not wanting to put their own safety at risk to protect a kid in this situation but I don’t understand you calling it wildly inappropriate that someone did.

I made why it was wildly inappropriate clear:

1) They aren't trained to disarm a violent intruder. This attempt could have led to serious injury to themselves or other students easily.

2) Their lack of training and lack of back-up directly led to the intruder escaping.

Those are really big deals.

I don't think you know what this individual is and is not trained for and are just making šħîť up as you go along.

Just like you. Because you have no idea what I do or don't know.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

At approximately 12:47 p.m., a staff member heard a verbal altercation in a hallway. Upon entering the area, the staff member observed a juvenile with a knife. The staff member immediately intervened, disarmed the individual, and attempted to escort him to the main office. During this process, the individual fled the building and was observed running off campus.

It was wildly inappropriate and against protocol for the teacher to disarm the individual with the knife instead of calling security and/or the police to do that.

Not only could that teacher have been seriously hurt, but because this teacher decided to take things into their own hands instead of calling the appropriate people, the intruder was able to escape the building.

I hope the principal and teacher are held accountable for this.

I understand a teacher not wanting to put their own safety at risk to protect a kid in this situation but I don’t understand you calling it wildly inappropriate that someone did.

I made why it was wildly inappropriate clear:

1) They aren't trained to disarm a violent intruder. This attempt could have led to serious injury to themselves or other students easily.

2) Their lack of training and lack of back-up directly led to the intruder escaping.

Those are really big deals.

And let the person continue the assault while waiting for police to arrive? What is wrong with you?

And what if in the struggle to disarm this person, another student had been stabbed as a result? What would you have said then? Would it have been worth it?

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Anonymous wrote:

At approximately 12:47 p.m., a staff member heard a verbal altercation in a hallway. Upon entering the area, the staff member observed a juvenile with a knife. The staff member immediately intervened, disarmed the individual, and attempted to escort him to the main office. During this process, the individual fled the building and was observed running off campus.

It was wildly inappropriate and against protocol for the teacher to disarm the individual with the knife instead of calling security and/or the police to do that.

Not only could that teacher have been seriously hurt, but because this teacher decided to take things into their own hands instead of calling the appropriate people, the intruder was able to escape the building.

I hope the principal and teacher are held accountable for this.

I understand a teacher not wanting to put their own safety at risk to protect a kid in this situation but I don’t understand you calling it wildly inappropriate that someone did.

I made why it was wildly inappropriate clear:

1) They aren't trained to disarm a violent intruder. This attempt could have led to serious injury to themselves or other students easily.

2) Their lack of training and lack of back-up directly led to the intruder escaping.

Those are really big deals.

I don't think you know what this individual is and is not trained for and are just making šħîť up as you go along.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

At approximately 12:47 p.m., a staff member heard a verbal altercation in a hallway. Upon entering the area, the staff member observed a juvenile with a knife. The staff member immediately intervened, disarmed the individual, and attempted to escort him to the main office. During this process, the individual fled the building and was observed running off campus.

It was wildly inappropriate and against protocol for the teacher to disarm the individual with the knife instead of calling security and/or the police to do that.

Not only could that teacher have been seriously hurt, but because this teacher decided to take things into their own hands instead of calling the appropriate people, the intruder was able to escape the building.

I hope the principal and teacher are held accountable for this.

I understand a teacher not wanting to put their own safety at risk to protect a kid in this situation but I don’t understand you calling it wildly inappropriate that someone did.

I made why it was wildly inappropriate clear:

1) They aren't trained to disarm a violent intruder. This attempt could have led to serious injury to themselves or other students easily.

2) Their lack of training and lack of back-up directly led to the intruder escaping.

Those are really big deals.

So you’re saying people “trained to disarm” are the only people who should intervene? You have been watching too much TV.

This teacher prevented a student from being stabbed, potentially killed. Do you think the intruder had a knife out just for fun? If an intruder has a weapon out, you need to believe they plan on using it.

Yes, I absolutely am. And I don't think I'm the one who's been watching too much TV if you think people aren't trained to disarm people safely should give it a shot and let the chips fall where they may.

Again, I'm glad it didn't end tragically this time, but it could have easily. Which is why MCPS has safety protocols for people to follow in cases like this.

The teacher's job is to call for help when a someone with a weapon enters the building. Not attempt to disarm the intruder and then frog march them to the office. That's literally security or the police's job.

You have no common sense. Did you not hear the news - an untrained person grabbed the rifle from the attacker in Australia and more deaths were prevented at Bondi beach.

Any untrained person can do what they need to do when an attack is going on. They are the real heroes. I applaud this teacher.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

At approximately 12:47 p.m., a staff member heard a verbal altercation in a hallway. Upon entering the area, the staff member observed a juvenile with a knife. The staff member immediately intervened, disarmed the individual, and attempted to escort him to the main office. During this process, the individual fled the building and was observed running off campus.

It was wildly inappropriate and against protocol for the teacher to disarm the individual with the knife instead of calling security and/or the police to do that.

Not only could that teacher have been seriously hurt, but because this teacher decided to take things into their own hands instead of calling the appropriate people, the intruder was able to escape the building.

I hope the principal and teacher are held accountable for this.

I understand a teacher not wanting to put their own safety at risk to protect a kid in this situation but I don’t understand you calling it wildly inappropriate that someone did.

I made why it was wildly inappropriate clear:

1) They aren't trained to disarm a violent intruder. This attempt could have led to serious injury to themselves or other students easily.

2) Their lack of training and lack of back-up directly led to the intruder escaping.

Those are really big deals.

And let the person continue the assault while waiting for police to arrive? What is wrong with you?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

At approximately 12:47 p.m., a staff member heard a verbal altercation in a hallway. Upon entering the area, the staff member observed a juvenile with a knife. The staff member immediately intervened, disarmed the individual, and attempted to escort him to the main office. During this process, the individual fled the building and was observed running off campus.

It was wildly inappropriate and against protocol for the teacher to disarm the individual with the knife instead of calling security and/or the police to do that.

Not only could that teacher have been seriously hurt, but because this teacher decided to take things into their own hands instead of calling the appropriate people, the intruder was able to escape the building.

I hope the principal and teacher are held accountable for this.

I understand a teacher not wanting to put their own safety at risk to protect a kid in this situation but I don’t understand you calling it wildly inappropriate that someone did.

I made why it was wildly inappropriate clear:

1) They aren't trained to disarm a violent intruder. This attempt could have led to serious injury to themselves or other students easily.

2) Their lack of training and lack of back-up directly led to the intruder escaping.

Those are really big deals.

Yes, and we see this week's tragic outcome, a minor had injury, when we could have had a professional police response like at Sandy Hook, Douglas, or Uvalde

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Anonymous wrote:Jesus, the person didn't go to school there, but other students let them in. There needs to be an administrator standing at the door limiting who is allowing people in!

This happens at every school. You can't possibly have staff sit at all of the school doors during the entire day to prevent students from letting others in. That's a ridiculous idea.

And what's your idea, genius?
-NP

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

At approximately 12:47 p.m., a staff member heard a verbal altercation in a hallway. Upon entering the area, the staff member observed a juvenile with a knife. The staff member immediately intervened, disarmed the individual, and attempted to escort him to the main office. During this process, the individual fled the building and was observed running off campus.

It was wildly inappropriate and against protocol for the teacher to disarm the individual with the knife instead of calling security and/or the police to do that.

Not only could that teacher have been seriously hurt, but because this teacher decided to take things into their own hands instead of calling the appropriate people, the intruder was able to escape the building.

I hope the principal and teacher are held accountable for this.

I understand a teacher not wanting to put their own safety at risk to protect a kid in this situation but I don’t understand you calling it wildly inappropriate that someone did.

I made why it was wildly inappropriate clear:

1) They aren't trained to disarm a violent intruder. This attempt could have led to serious injury to themselves or other students easily.

2) Their lack of training and lack of back-up directly led to the intruder escaping.

Those are really big deals.

So you’re saying people “trained to disarm” are the only people who should intervene? You have been watching too much TV.

This teacher prevented a student from being stabbed, potentially killed. Do you think the intruder had a knife out just for fun? If an intruder has a weapon out, you need to believe they plan on using it.

Yes, I absolutely am. And I don't think I'm the one who's been watching too much TV if you think people aren't trained to disarm people safely should give it a shot and let the chips fall where they may.

Again, I'm glad it didn't end tragically this time, but it could have easily. Which is why MCPS has safety protocols for people to follow in cases like this.

The teacher's job is to call for help when a someone with a weapon enters the building. Not attempt to disarm the intruder and then frog march them to the office. That's literally security or the police's job.