Anonymous
Post 12/16/2025 11:00     Subject: The End of an Era: Taylor Swift Documentary

[quote]
Okay. Why does everything have to be a public show? Why can anything not be in person without a camera present? That is my question. I get serious self glorification vibes from a person who has to make themselves the center of every "charitable" act they do instead of just quietly doing the charity and not having to show it to the entire world. Yes it is generous but it is also hugely self serving because the story everywhere is about her. Once again she could have sent these people money off camera but then the story would not be about Taylor, which is what she craves. She gives serious Opra love and admire me vibes.

And the response is she has to normalize how awesome she is. Because it is not "normal" to be that awesome. I hope she can Work through the pain. I know it cannot be easy.[/quote]

You have zero idea what she has done without cameras.

The bonuses are a business decision. And it came out last year.
Anonymous
Post 12/16/2025 10:50     Subject: The End of an Era: Taylor Swift Documentary

If you do it in secret then it doesn't create a new normal to pay people for their full worth.
Anonymous
Post 12/16/2025 10:49     Subject: The End of an Era: Taylor Swift Documentary

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote]"There is no need to normalize giving away money. You just do it. Is she suggesting there is a stigma against giving away money? That's preposterous. People give away money all the time- they are called philanthropists. What would we do without Taylor to "normalize" the concept of philanthropy?"[/quote]


Philanthropy has nothing to do with compensation for work. Charity and and employee pay (including bonuses) are two very different things - she is not haphazardly "giving money away." What she is normalizing is monetarily treating employees like valued members of a team. They put on the one of the most successful shows of all time and she is acknowledging that through compensation from the earnings of that tour. She's saying "we succeeded together." [/quote]

Well said. [/quote]

Okay. Why does everything have to be a public show? Why can anything not be in person without a camera present? That is my question. I get serious self glorification vibes from a person who has to make themselves the center of every "charitable" act they do instead of just quietly doing the charity and not having to show it to the entire world. Yes it is generous but it is also hugely self serving because the story everywhere is about her. Once again she could have sent these people money off camera but then the story would not be about Taylor, which is what she craves. She gives serious Opra love and admire me vibes.

And the response is she has to normalize how awesome she is. Because it is not "normal" to be that awesome. I hope she can Work through the pain. I know it cannot be easy.
Anonymous
Post 12/16/2025 10:19     Subject: The End of an Era: Taylor Swift Documentary

[quote=Anonymous][quote]"There is no need to normalize giving away money. You just do it. Is she suggesting there is a stigma against giving away money? That's preposterous. People give away money all the time- they are called philanthropists. What would we do without Taylor to "normalize" the concept of philanthropy?"[/quote]


Philanthropy has nothing to do with compensation for work. Charity and and employee pay (including bonuses) are two very different things - she is not haphazardly "giving money away." What she is normalizing is monetarily treating employees like valued members of a team. They put on the one of the most successful shows of all time and she is acknowledging that through compensation from the earnings of that tour. She's saying "we succeeded together." [/quote]

Well said.
Anonymous
Post 12/16/2025 10:16     Subject: The End of an Era: Taylor Swift Documentary

[quote]"There is no need to normalize giving away money. You just do it. Is she suggesting there is a stigma against giving away money? That's preposterous. People give away money all the time- they are called philanthropists. What would we do without Taylor to "normalize" the concept of philanthropy?"[/quote]


Philanthropy has nothing to do with compensation for work. Charity and and employee pay (including bonuses) are two very different things - she is not haphazardly "giving money away." What she is normalizing is monetarily treating employees like valued members of a team. They put on the one of the most successful shows of all time and she is acknowledging that through compensation from the earnings of that tour. She's saying "we succeeded together."
Anonymous
Post 12/16/2025 10:13     Subject: The End of an Era: Taylor Swift Documentary

Paying artists their worth starts with the record companies. You are arguing the same damn point.
Anonymous
Post 12/16/2025 10:12     Subject: The End of an Era: Taylor Swift Documentary

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I hope the dangers also got a free copy of the My Sweater song. That thing is a masterpiece.

And a bottle of her bathwater to drink too


Your level of intellect is staggering.


Thanks
Anonymous
Post 12/16/2025 10:03     Subject: The End of an Era: Taylor Swift Documentary

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]

There is no need to normalize giving away money. You just do it. Is she suggesting there is a stigma against giving away money? That's preposterous. People give away money all the time- they are called philanthropists. What would we do without Taylor to "normalize" the concept of philanthropy? The woman is a magalimaniac if she thinks that rich people need her "help" to understand the concept of giving money away.
[/quote]

She is normalizing paying artists for what they are worth. There is a HUGE gap in the entertainment industry and the term starving artist is there for a reason. [/quote]

Okay. However you realize that a lot of artists, even big acts, are struggling themselves because the record company fronts the costs and they have to pay the company back.

Also many artists only earn literally pennies for each record sold or each download. TLC and the Dixie Chicks both addressed this. TLC members could not pay their rent and lived on Ramen noodles when they had the top selling multi platinum record. The Dixie Chicks gave an interview and stated they had Sony's number one selling record and none of them even had one million dollars to their name.

So normalizing the idea that pop stars have money sitting around to give everyone a 700k bonus is dishonest. Taylor has that money but most other artists do not. Even Michael Jackson went bankrupt. Many singers go bankrupt within years of producing a top record. Two otyer examples are Carnie Wilson and MC Hammer.
Anonymous
Post 12/16/2025 09:23     Subject: The End of an Era: Taylor Swift Documentary

[quote=Anonymous]

There is no need to normalize giving away money. You just do it. Is she suggesting there is a stigma against giving away money? That's preposterous. People give away money all the time- they are called philanthropists. What would we do without Taylor to "normalize" the concept of philanthropy? The woman is a magalimaniac if she thinks that rich people need her "help" to understand the concept of giving money away.
[/quote]

She is normalizing paying artists for what they are worth. There is a HUGE gap in the entertainment industry and the term starving artist is there for a reason.
Anonymous
Post 12/16/2025 09:13     Subject: The End of an Era: Taylor Swift Documentary

Anonymous wrote:I hope the dangers also got a free copy of the My Sweater song. That thing is a masterpiece.

And a bottle of her bathwater to drink too


Your level of intellect is staggering.
Anonymous
Post 12/16/2025 08:46     Subject: The End of an Era: Taylor Swift Documentary

I hope the dangers also got a free copy of the My Sweater song. That thing is a masterpiece.

And a bottle of her bathwater to drink too
Anonymous
Post 12/16/2025 08:45     Subject: The End of an Era: Taylor Swift Documentary

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The Oprah Winfey of pop music. Everything is framed to be about how wonderful and generous she is but the point os really that she is better than everyone. People got sick of Oprah's self centered talk show after about 20 years and people will eventually get sick of tour documentaries with the central theme "Look how amazing snd generous i am."

People who are truly generous do not constantly have to advertise it as an ego and publicity boost.[/quote]

The documentary is all about the tour itself, not about how generous she is. Watch it or don’t, no one cares.[/quote]

The point is that there is an ego element in putting the bonuses in the film because then Taylor giving bonuses becomes a story. Plenty of celebrities give stuff without telling anyone, She could have given it without filming it but that would not get as much publicity. There is always a PR angle.[/quote]

She addressed in the documentary- she wants essentially to challenge other artists to do the same and normalize it. I think that’s a good thing. [/quote]

There is no need to normalize giving away money. You just do it. Is she suggesting there is a stigma against giving away money? That's preposterous. People give away money all the time- they are called philanthropists. What would we do without Taylor to "normalize" the concept of philanthropy? The woman is a magalimaniac if she thinks that rich people need her "help" to understand the concept of giving money away.

I hope
Anonymous
Post 12/16/2025 06:50     Subject: The End of an Era: Taylor Swift Documentary

That bonus was just for the European leg don’t forget. They had already received bonuses for the opening US leg and probably another for the final leg.
Anonymous
Post 12/15/2025 23:01     Subject: The End of an Era: Taylor Swift Documentary

Anonymous wrote:Is it true that the bonuses were 750k?


Yes. For the dancers. Everyone got bonuses but different amounts. I think the dancers got the biggest ones.

People previously reported that Swift gave $197 million in bonuses to the crew of the Eras Tour, including caterers, lighting technicians, audio technicians, riggers, carpenters, choreographers, and more. A shot of envelopes in the docuseries reveals a stack labeled "wardrobe/makeup/hair," and another labeled "venue security."

Michael Scherkenbach, founder and CEO of the Colorado-based trucking company Shomotion — one of two transportation companies used by the tour — has also said that each trucker received a $100,000 check and handwritten letter from Swift. He described the amount of money as "life-changing."
Anonymous
Post 12/15/2025 22:40     Subject: The End of an Era: Taylor Swift Documentary

Is it true that the bonuses were 750k?